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Fire and Stone #3
Alien vs. Predator: Fire and Stone
As the mercenary crew of the Perses leaves the horror of LV-223 behind them, one passenger reveals a terrible new danger and the crew soon find themselves in a deadly struggle between predator and prey! Collects issues #1-#4 of Alien vs. Predator: Fire and Stone!
Aliens, Predators, and Engineers will come together in 2014 when the Aliens, Predators, and Aliens Vs. Predator comics get completely rebooted, along with the first Prometheus comic series, and joined together in a single continuity.
Aliens, Predators, and Engineers will come together in 2014 when the Aliens, Predators, and Aliens Vs. Predator comics get completely rebooted, along with the first Prometheus comic series, and joined together in a single continuity.
126 pages, Paperback
First published June 23, 2015
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November 17, 2016
Well, that was awesome.
Once again, this is a comic I read, not realizing it's not the first in the series. But that didn't matter to me ----- I loved it. I will most definitely read the other volumes, based on what I thought of this one.
Once again, this is a comic I read, not realizing it's not the first in the series. But that didn't matter to me ----- I loved it. I will most definitely read the other volumes, based on what I thought of this one.
April 18, 2018
A cosmic slug-fest laced with existential questions is the not so stunning incarnation that is Alien Vs. Predator: Fire and Stone.
This isn’t the word becoming flesh but rather the catalyst Black Goo/Accelerant – whatever you decide to the call the jet McGuffin doohicker in the other Fire and Stone – doing the life bringing. However, instead of carrying something fecund, it’s rather the opposite, everything dark about existence that it seems to bring. No life, just darkness describes not just this magical fluid but the very low lighting that is cast upon nigh every other panel.
While there are some cool moments, the flood of blood ‘n’ guts quickly loses its appeal after the same damn butchery repeats again and again ad naseum. As shoddy as the brutality is, so too is the shitty philosophy that would fall well below the intellectual level of a 101 class. Which is a shame because the idea of an already self-aware synth gaining an organic cellular structure should be cool, it’s not actually.
In fact it’s so not cool, it almost feels primitive compared to HAL 9000 in Space Odyssey or even the computer Bomb #20 in Dark Star, preceding this story by decades. Instead of a linear evolution it’s more like an inverted Hegelian devolution. This story falls short not just of it’s awesome source material(s) l but the entirety of the science fiction canon that has preceded it.
Bother thumbs are gonna have to go down on this one.
This isn’t the word becoming flesh but rather the catalyst Black Goo/Accelerant – whatever you decide to the call the jet McGuffin doohicker in the other Fire and Stone – doing the life bringing. However, instead of carrying something fecund, it’s rather the opposite, everything dark about existence that it seems to bring. No life, just darkness describes not just this magical fluid but the very low lighting that is cast upon nigh every other panel.
While there are some cool moments, the flood of blood ‘n’ guts quickly loses its appeal after the same damn butchery repeats again and again ad naseum. As shoddy as the brutality is, so too is the shitty philosophy that would fall well below the intellectual level of a 101 class. Which is a shame because the idea of an already self-aware synth gaining an organic cellular structure should be cool, it’s not actually.
In fact it’s so not cool, it almost feels primitive compared to HAL 9000 in Space Odyssey or even the computer Bomb #20 in Dark Star, preceding this story by decades. Instead of a linear evolution it’s more like an inverted Hegelian devolution. This story falls short not just of it’s awesome source material(s) l but the entirety of the science fiction canon that has preceded it.
Bother thumbs are gonna have to go down on this one.
February 12, 2024
I see a lot of poor reviews for this and I believe I know why I had better enjoyment in this than the rest: I ended reading this one simultaneously with Predator: Fire amd Stone, since each chapter of this, takes place before each chapter of that series (AVP issue 1, Predator issue 1, AVP issue 2, Predator issue 2, etc.)
I enjoyed it. The art wasn't terrible and neither was the story, but I think if read on its own, it's a mess. The art of course, would still hold up, but you're missing half the story by just reading this one. Both Aliens and Prometheus Fire and Stone can be read alone, though, chronologically, Aliens takes place first.
Apologies if all this rambling doesn't make sense. It makes sense to me.
I enjoyed it. The art wasn't terrible and neither was the story, but I think if read on its own, it's a mess. The art of course, would still hold up, but you're missing half the story by just reading this one. Both Aliens and Prometheus Fire and Stone can be read alone, though, chronologically, Aliens takes place first.
Apologies if all this rambling doesn't make sense. It makes sense to me.
November 1, 2017
Storyline is going downfall for good, but Ariel Olivetti's awesome artworks here just made my day.
September 11, 2017
I've had about enough of mutated shit at this point. Mutated android vs. mutated predator vs. mutated human. No one wins. Olivetti's art is hit and miss with me. Some panels look great, some look like computer artwork created on Windows '95.
March 14, 2015
This was the final volume of Fire and Stone. Ariel Olivetti did the painted art, who was the only artist I actually recognized, but the art was good in every volume. This volume ends up in a free for all between Aliens, Predators, Humans, Mutated Predator (dont ask), and Mutated Synthetic (again, don't ask.) Lot of action in this one, and entertaining throughout.
There's also the matter of the OMEGA issue, was served as a finale to the entire series. I really thought the ending was a slight letdown, but I enjoyed the series so much it wasn't a huge deal.
If you are a fan of Aliens, Predator, or Prometheus, especially the comics, pick up all of the Fire and Stone series. I loved it.
There's also the matter of the OMEGA issue, was served as a finale to the entire series. I really thought the ending was a slight letdown, but I enjoyed the series so much it wasn't a huge deal.
If you are a fan of Aliens, Predator, or Prometheus, especially the comics, pick up all of the Fire and Stone series. I loved it.
March 15, 2018
Art: ✪✪✪✪ stars
Story: ✪✪✪ stars.
Overall rating: ✪✪✪ + 1/2 stars.
I'm tired AF so expect a messy AF review.
First of all: the art was absolutely gorgeous. Definitely my fave style of the series so far!
As for the story... idk I'm still enjoying this series, but it just feels like they keep throwing more and more into the mix and it's not... making things better. I don't know that the presence of the Predators was entirely necessary, it felt more like they were added just for the sake of having them there, but that isn't an entirely new concept in the Alien/Predator franchise lbr. I guess they just wanted to run through all of them tbh: Alien, then Prometheus, then AVP and then Predator is up next.
The Aliens and the Predators are more like background plot devices/plot-pushers, the main focus of this volume was Elden and Francis - which is fine, because I like Elden, but I wish things were a little less.... busy? I guess? It just feels like there's too much happening and being added at once without there being enough focus + fine-tuning on the pre-existing storylines.
ANYWAY overall: enjoyed it enough, and I'll be continuing with the series to see what happens next.
Story: ✪✪✪ stars.
Overall rating: ✪✪✪ + 1/2 stars.
I'm tired AF so expect a messy AF review.
First of all: the art was absolutely gorgeous. Definitely my fave style of the series so far!
As for the story... idk I'm still enjoying this series, but it just feels like they keep throwing more and more into the mix and it's not... making things better. I don't know that the presence of the Predators was entirely necessary, it felt more like they were added just for the sake of having them there, but that isn't an entirely new concept in the Alien/Predator franchise lbr. I guess they just wanted to run through all of them tbh: Alien, then Prometheus, then AVP and then Predator is up next.
The Aliens and the Predators are more like background plot devices/plot-pushers, the main focus of this volume was Elden and Francis - which is fine, because I like Elden, but I wish things were a little less.... busy? I guess? It just feels like there's too much happening and being added at once without there being enough focus + fine-tuning on the pre-existing storylines.
ANYWAY overall: enjoyed it enough, and I'll be continuing with the series to see what happens next.
December 12, 2016
It was okay. Nothing more. Nothing less. The Eldon and Francis story line was beyond annoying at this point as it never really evolved past why did you do this to me, and what does it mean? None of the characters grow, and that's what makes this story weak. You can't just throw aliens and predators in there and hope that's enough. This story could have been so much more, but, sadly, it wasn't. The artwork, conversely, was great.
Four star artwork plus a two star story equals three stars for me.
Four star artwork plus a two star story equals three stars for me.
January 14, 2020
I love how all of these stories are connected.
October 15, 2014
This has a lot of questions that will need answering....luckily there's more to come set before and after across three franchises. Yay!
March 20, 2022
As with previous Alien-themed Dark Horse graphic novels, I loved the art throughout this collection and would go as far as to say it is my favourite style.
I enjoyed the way this series continued on as a spin off from Fire and Stone Prometheus and really liked the character of Elden and his physical transformation from android to a living monster that in some ways resembled the engineers.
I found the action interesting but thought the storyline meandered and didn't really offer any sort of meaningful conclusion or explanation of what effect the accelerant has. Or how the Predator Yautjas came to get involved rather than an arbitrary crossing of paths. Or why the Aliens worked with Elden but then turned on him.
I enjoyed the way this series continued on as a spin off from Fire and Stone Prometheus and really liked the character of Elden and his physical transformation from android to a living monster that in some ways resembled the engineers.
I found the action interesting but thought the storyline meandered and didn't really offer any sort of meaningful conclusion or explanation of what effect the accelerant has. Or how the Predator Yautjas came to get involved rather than an arbitrary crossing of paths. Or why the Aliens worked with Elden but then turned on him.
May 8, 2017
Aliens, mutants, and the eternal question of "Why me"? It had decent artwork and the plot and characters were a little clunky with regard to how the action plays out as the characters are crying and whining about what is happening to them and why are they put there in this world as regarding what purpose do they serve. Worth reading once.
April 29, 2023
This was really interesting specially with Elden mental state changing rapidly. Not bad, it makes sense, same for Francis. The dynamic between the two was crazy and good. I like the mutations and that it felt like a four-way war, super good.
August 25, 2024
Interludio necesario para continuar la serie, pero que es incapaz de sostenerse por sí solo. Personajes que cambian de personalidad y objetivos como quien parpadea. Lo he terminado porque quiero saber donde desemboca toda esta historia crossover de franquicias, pero se nota que en esta zona flojea.
January 5, 2018
2.5 stars.
May 27, 2019
The weakest of the lot. Does little but to slowly plod along with the plot.
July 3, 2019
Almost makes you like Prometheus.
... almost.
... almost.
April 25, 2020
poco interesante
January 28, 2020
This one took a lot less time to get through than the others because it was mostly people punching each other.
Elden punches a predator. Predators punch aliens. Aliens punch everyone. Francis punches Elden. Predators punch Francis. On and on. This is all woven in with philosophy-survey-course-level dialogue about how life is pain and meaning is something we create for ourselves, with Elden demanding to know what it all means and no one having an answer. The aliens don't speak, the predators don't speak English, and Francis mostly says that he doesn't know, that being alive doesn't automatically give you all the answers, and anyway, good luck with that.
I'm getting a little annoyed with all the mutation at this point. It was the worst part of the comic adaptation of William Gibson's Alien 3, and while I knew it was going to be part of the story because that's what the black goo does and Elden had already been mutated back in Prometheus: Fire and Stone, but I wasn't expecting it to take over the plot and I wasn't expecting most of the story to devolve into a mutant cage match.
And why were the predators here? The only real answer is "Because they have to be to make the crossover work."
At least the art was good.
Previous Review: Aliens: Fire and Stone.
Next Review: Predator: Fire and Stone.
Elden punches a predator. Predators punch aliens. Aliens punch everyone. Francis punches Elden. Predators punch Francis. On and on. This is all woven in with philosophy-survey-course-level dialogue about how life is pain and meaning is something we create for ourselves, with Elden demanding to know what it all means and no one having an answer. The aliens don't speak, the predators don't speak English, and Francis mostly says that he doesn't know, that being alive doesn't automatically give you all the answers, and anyway, good luck with that.
I'm getting a little annoyed with all the mutation at this point. It was the worst part of the comic adaptation of William Gibson's Alien 3, and while I knew it was going to be part of the story because that's what the black goo does and Elden had already been mutated back in Prometheus: Fire and Stone, but I wasn't expecting it to take over the plot and I wasn't expecting most of the story to devolve into a mutant cage match.
And why were the predators here? The only real answer is "Because they have to be to make the crossover work."
At least the art was good.
Previous Review: Aliens: Fire and Stone.
Next Review: Predator: Fire and Stone.
August 19, 2022
This crossover event joins “anything starring Machiko” as basically the most essential AVP comics in my opinion. This had a very cinematic scope that is exactly what you are probably looking for out of this franchise but is often actually lacking in other comics. And I also love how interconnected everything is but also that you could read any one of these individual series and still get a complete story and not feel like you were missing anything.
This one stars everyone that made it off of LV-223 in Prometheus: Fire and Stone, especially the asshole scientist and the mutated half-android/half-Engineer.
The philosophical diatribes the pair exchange while trying to murder each other and fighting a bunch of Aliens and Predators was surprisingly compelling. The scientist is, as I may have mentioned one or two times, an asshole. He does manage to deliver one extremely meaningful quote, though, which I actually had to write down: “No matter how much you change, you can’t change who you are. All you can do is live with it. As long as you can.”
Oh, yeah, and the Engineer/android hybrid has some Xenomorphs with him who eventually turn on him, and some Predators show up and one of them gets turned into a Predator/Engineer hybrid and we’re not even gonna get into what happens when the scientist tries injecting himself with the Engineers’ black goo and yeah, there’s a lot going on here and it’s pretty action packed and it has a really distinct mood which is often something AVP comics have sadly failed to achieve. I dig it.
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Check out my compilation review of the Alien and Predator franchises on my blog, 24,000 Miles to the Moon! https://24000milestothemoon.com/2022/...
This one stars everyone that made it off of LV-223 in Prometheus: Fire and Stone, especially the asshole scientist and the mutated half-android/half-Engineer.
The philosophical diatribes the pair exchange while trying to murder each other and fighting a bunch of Aliens and Predators was surprisingly compelling. The scientist is, as I may have mentioned one or two times, an asshole. He does manage to deliver one extremely meaningful quote, though, which I actually had to write down: “No matter how much you change, you can’t change who you are. All you can do is live with it. As long as you can.”
Oh, yeah, and the Engineer/android hybrid has some Xenomorphs with him who eventually turn on him, and some Predators show up and one of them gets turned into a Predator/Engineer hybrid and we’re not even gonna get into what happens when the scientist tries injecting himself with the Engineers’ black goo and yeah, there’s a lot going on here and it’s pretty action packed and it has a really distinct mood which is often something AVP comics have sadly failed to achieve. I dig it.
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Check out my compilation review of the Alien and Predator franchises on my blog, 24,000 Miles to the Moon! https://24000milestothemoon.com/2022/...
April 19, 2016
I quite enjoyed the first two volumes of Fire and Stone, then I got to AvP. Right away when I saw that the focus of this volume was my lease favorite aspect of the Prometheus and Aliens comics thus far (Elden and mutants) I knew I was in trouble. Elden isn't a bad idea by any means, it is quite interesting, but for only a page or two and not an entire volume. His design in this volume sticks out like a sore thumb and his constant talking gets tiresome quick. The black goo mutants are also fine in small doses, but Sebela goes hog wild with them here to the point that the titular Aliens and Predators are completely pointless in this story. It doesn't help that those mutants also look really dumb and out of place. And then there are the Predators, I had been wondering how they were going to introduce them into this new story and the answer is lazily. They just show up because the titles demands them to.
July 8, 2015
So this comic follows
Prometheus: Fire and Stone
with some really random fighting among human crew members (some of which mutiny), xenomorphs, Predators, a crazy android, a crazy guy, a crazy Predator, and I'm not sure if I forgot anyone but does it matter. It makes even less sense than the preceding Prometheus series, and the art is worse. On the positive side these read quickly so you won't waste much of your life. It's followed by
Predator: Fire and Stone
which is not quite as bad.
September 14, 2015
I think that the Alien (xenomorph) is much more frightening when we don't know much about it and when it has very little screen time, as it did in the original movie Alien. The title says alien vs predator, but the xenomorphs are really just in the background and don't do anything particularly unusual or frightening.
I haven't read the first two books (Prometheus and Aliens in the Fire and Stone series), so I don't have the full story. I would recommend to other readers to probably consider reading them in that order.
I haven't read the first two books (Prometheus and Aliens in the Fire and Stone series), so I don't have the full story. I would recommend to other readers to probably consider reading them in that order.
July 27, 2015
The next book in the Alien anthology introduces us to Aliens natural enemy, Predators. Predators come to stop the Aliens from progressing in the universe on the ship but end up against much worse and stronger foes than they expected. And are the humans allies to the Predators or are they enemies too?
Wonderful illustrations and continuing the story, quite good. The next one comes out soon and I cannot wait to read it continuing with the Aliens and Predators fighting away!
Wonderful illustrations and continuing the story, quite good. The next one comes out soon and I cannot wait to read it continuing with the Aliens and Predators fighting away!
March 31, 2015
I think this is where Dark Horse's "Fire and Stone" crossover begins to go sour. This series introduces some very strange mutations into the mix of the Aliens "universe". In this particular book, it almost feels like it's a superhero comic were reading. Didn't feel "Aliens" to me at all. The artwork is very cartoony. We even get a Predator mutation with adorable puppy dog eyes.
April 21, 2015
Surprisingly, this title was actually my favorite of all the "Fire and Stone" series by Dark Horse. I thought the story was very touching and poignant and I was really impressed with the artwork. The themes in the plot involving artificial intelligence, human testing and the price of success highlighted my favorite elements of the Alien franchise and I hope series continues on this path!
February 13, 2015
Tras huir de la luna en Prometheus: fire and stone, varios supervivientes se tienen que enfrentar a Elden, un robot que ha sidto transformado con la sutancía negra de los ingenieros. Además a la fiesta se presenta una expedición de caza Predator.
February 27, 2016
This is not a review, merely a statement. The Fire and stone series ... all four books has re-energized my love for the Aliens/Predator franchise. I love that they pulled Prometheus into the fold. It is a great story with fresh ideas all around.
February 11, 2015
I lied: usually this is the weakest of the triple franchise. But weirdly this is almost my favorite. The art and the story are both superb, enough so that I plowed through an AvP story. What?
April 18, 2016
Very exciting. Genetic mutation on steroids...
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