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Friar Lawrence had a role, but it wasn't as major as Romeo and Juliet themselves. Romeo had apparently "fell in love" with Juliet right after his heartbreak with Rosaline. Friar Lawrence increased the conflict of the problem by helping them, but Juliet asked for it in the first place, never questioning the flaws in Friar Lawrence's plans.
In my opinion Friar Lawrence truly did the best he could. His plan was subtle enough that it would set Romeo and Juliet free of their families without dredging up a huge quarrel between the two families. It was a twist of fate that the quarantine was placed and the message of the plan could not get out to exiled Romeo.
I beg to differ. Friar Lawrence should not be blamed for trying to help the two lovers. He knew the consequence behind telling their families, so he used the complicated and secretive method.
Many people blame the families grudges or other people for the cause of Romeo and Juliet's death. However, it really is Romeo and Juliet's fault. Since, they were the ones who committed suicide. It only makes sense to blame someone else, but it was their choice. They still had a chance to be together, without being dead and apart. The priest told Romeo to spend a night with Juliet and then leave until they find a solution for him to come back. If they listened to the priest they would be together and, not dead, therefor it is their fault.
I disagree, although Friar Laurence could be seen as a person to leave the blame on, if it wasn't for the parents the problem would have never occurred in the first place. Juliet wouldn't have taken the potion, romeo would never see her "dead", and both of them wouldn't commit suicide.
I disagree,if Friar Lawrence had made the relationship public, the families would have tried to kill each other. To show how much the families hated each other, the poem says,¨Uncle, this is a Montague, our foe,
A villain that is hither come in spite,
To scorn at our solemnity this night.¨ This shows their hatred for each other.
I disagree, Friar Lawrence did not tell their parents because he was looking out for Romeo and Juliet, and for the future family feud that may have taken place if that happened.
I disagree with your statement because the real reason for the couple's death because Juliet even admitted that if she dose not marry Romeo she would end her life. If they never had affection for each other this would never happen.
The Lords Capulet and Montague is the responsibility of Romeo and Juliet's death. They hated each other and caused friction between the two families. Which caused Romeo and Juliet to be stressed and to have problems in their relationship. "No, 'tis not so deep as a well, nor so wide as a
church-door; but 'tis enough, 'twill serve: ask for
me to-morrow, and you shall find me a grave man. I
am peppered, I warrant, for this world. A plague o'
both your houses! 'Zounds, a dog, a rat, a mouse, a
cat, to scratch a man to death! a braggart, a
rogue, a villain, that fights by the book of
arithmetic! Why the devil came you between us? I
was hurt under your arm." Is what Mercutio said explaining the reason of Romeo and Juliet's death.
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I agree with you with the fact that Friar Lawrence did have an opportunity to save Romeo and Juliet by making their relationship public, uniting the families. But, he decided to keep it a secret resulting in their deaths.
I agree; the Friar kept the relationship from the parents, who should have known, and the families remained divided.
In my opinion Juliet is the reason for each others death if you actually think about. In the text it had stated, "Nurse! What should she do here?My dismal scene I needs must act alone. Come, vial". This quote tells how Juliet used a drink to act as if she was dead which had ultimately led to the death of Romeo. Once Juliet had woken up she relaized that the Romeo had killed himself over her and now Juliet had killed herself over her mistake. Overall if Juliet told Romeo her plan none of this would have ever went down and both would be alive.
I think Tybalt is most to blame for the death of Romeo and Juliet. He is the entire reason Romeo was exiled, which is what lead to the death of the star-crossed lovers.
I agree that Friar Lawrence was to be blamed for because of poor decisions he made like Juliet's death. He knew how much Romeo loved Juliet and the crazy things he would do for her.
I agree that Friar Lawrence is at fault, mainly because he failed to communicate effectively, whether it was making the relation public or telling Romeo that JULIET WASN'T DEAD
I agree with you that Friar Lawrence is mostly at fault, because he had the chance to unite the families in a better way than what he actually had done. He could have communicated between themselves better so that Romeo and Juliet would still be alive and then live together.
I disagree with this. I do not believe that Friar Lawrence was at fault for the death of Romeo and Juliet, because even if he did not marry the two, they would still be in love. Marriage is just a title and does not determine if you love someone or not. I think that it does not matter if the couple were married or not. They were doomed from the beginning.
Friar Lawrence did nothing wrong. He help the two get married in secret and kept their whole relationship a secret. His idea to make Juliet appear to be dead, was a good idea, if would have worked only if Romeo got the message
Completely agree. To add to that, he could have saved Juliet's life in the tomb but chose to run away and save himself.
Though I see where you are coming from, I believe that it was not Friar Lawrence's fault-or not entirely- because Juliet also agreed to this complicated method. The only reason that Friar Lawrence was forced to come up with a plan in the first place was because Juliet and Romeo needed to escape from their families to happily live together.
I agree with this because he could've brought the families together but instead he kept everything a secret. Also, he was going to give Juliet the potion where she would then be stuck in a come for 42 whole hours!
everyone really could be blamed if you just think. Friar had Juliet pretend to be dead and united them in marriage. The Prince, he let the families fight Over and over without any real consequence. Both families because they built and held on to their grudge for many years. Romeo and Juliet themselves, I mean they didn't HAVE to kill themselves. Romeo thought that Juliet was truly dead so he poisoned himself to be with Juliet, Juliet should have never taken the potion to "be dead" and could have just left Verona and went to Mantua to be with Romeo. Everyone has a part to play.
I do not completely agree with this because that was only one of many possible outcomes and this seems unlikely. The more reasonable response the families would have come to was not allowing the children to see each other and also may have even brought much more hate and violence. It was mostly the old hate against the families that lead them to be apart.
I disagree with this claim. If he made the relationship public then the two families would create a riot. The feuding families would not be pleased about Romeo and Juliet getting married behind their backs. However, Friar Lawrence could have saved Juliet’s life instead of running away from her tomb. Before Juliet stabbed herself with Romeo’s dagger Friar Lawrence fleed, in fear of being caught in the tomb. “Come, go, good Juliet, I dare no longer stay”(Shakespeare Act 5, Scene 3).
I don't agree that Friar Lawrence was the fault of Romeo and Juliet's death. If he had made the relationship public, the Montagues and Cauplets who were already rivals would have gotten in a bigger fight. Romeo was also not liked by the Capulets as not only was he a Montague, but he was considered to be the murder of Tybalt. It would have not been possible for Friar to unite the families and make the relationship public as the Capulets had already wanted Juliet to marry Paris. The families wouldn’t have wanted to end their feud until they faced the consequences.
I agree because if he wouldn't have kept it secret it would have showed how their love is very strong and could have changes their parents perspectives.
I agree with you. Friar Lawrence plays a big role in Romeo and Juliets death. He also makes a plan that is both dangerous and concerning. The fact that he considered that to be a plan for a teenager in the first place is concerning. And Juliet thinking that was a good plan is very stupid of her.
I agree that it was the families' fault. They fought over a dumb feud that caused a lot of trouble for them. All of this could've been avoided if there was no feud to begin with.
I agree that it was friar Lawrence because of my original post to this thread. But I would also say it is the most logical conclusion for who would be the one responsible for them both dying.
In my opinion I think that there were many factors that were responsible and led deaths of Romeo and Juliet. Many believe that it might have been Friar Lawrence which I agree with partially, however, there were more factors that were responsible for their tragedy. The biggest factor was fate because they were both star crossed lovers who sacrifice themselves just so they do not have to live without each other. Their parents are also another huge factor in this demise because they have a lot of unsolved feud that needed to be resolved in an adult and professional manner. Many people also believe that it could have been avoided if Romeo and Juliet were mature enough to think deeply and make responsible decisions. However this is not the case been Tyablt had killed Mercutio which had led from their families' unresolved problems. According to Romeo and Juliet the Play, it states, "“A plague o' both your houses"(Shakespeare). This piece of evidence clearly shows that no matter what happened with Romeo and Juliet, fate had led everyone to that point of death in both families.
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Friar Lawrence had a role, but it wasn't as major as Romeo and Juliet themselves. Romeo had apparently "fell in love" with Juliet right after his heartbreak with Rosaline. Friar Lawrence increased the conflict of the problem by helping them, but Juliet asked for it in the first place, never questioning the flaws in Friar Lawrence's plans.
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In my opinion Friar Lawrence truly did the best he could. His plan was subtle enough that it would set Romeo and Juliet free of their families without dredging up a huge quarrel between the two families. It was a twist of fate that the quarantine was placed and the message of the plan could not get out to exiled Romeo.
I beg to differ. Friar Lawrence should not be blamed for trying to help the two lovers. He knew the consequence behind telling their families, so he used the complicated and secretive method.
Many people blame the families grudges or other people for the cause of Romeo and Juliet's death. However, it really is Romeo and Juliet's fault. Since, they were the ones who committed suicide. It only makes sense to blame someone else, but it was their choice. They still had a chance to be together, without being dead and apart. The priest told Romeo to spend a night with Juliet and then leave until they find a solution for him to come back. If they listened to the priest they would be together and, not dead, therefor it is their fault.
I disagree, although Friar Laurence could be seen as a person to leave the blame on, if it wasn't for the parents the problem would have never occurred in the first place. Juliet wouldn't have taken the potion, romeo would never see her "dead", and both of them wouldn't commit suicide.
I disagree,if Friar Lawrence had made the relationship public, the families would have tried to kill each other. To show how much the families hated each other, the poem says,¨Uncle, this is a Montague, our foe,A villain that is hither come in spite,
To scorn at our solemnity this night.¨ This shows their hatred for each other.
I disagree, Friar Lawrence did not tell their parents because he was looking out for Romeo and Juliet, and for the future family feud that may have taken place if that happened.
I disagree with your statement because the real reason for the couple's death because Juliet even admitted that if she dose not marry Romeo she would end her life. If they never had affection for each other this would never happen.
The Lords Capulet and Montague is the responsibility of Romeo and Juliet's death. They hated each other and caused friction between the two families. Which caused Romeo and Juliet to be stressed and to have problems in their relationship. "No, 'tis not so deep as a well, nor so wide as achurch-door; but 'tis enough, 'twill serve: ask for
me to-morrow, and you shall find me a grave man. I
am peppered, I warrant, for this world. A plague o'
both your houses! 'Zounds, a dog, a rat, a mouse, a
cat, to scratch a man to death! a braggart, a
rogue, a villain, that fights by the book of
arithmetic! Why the devil came you between us? I
was hurt under your arm." Is what Mercutio said explaining the reason of Romeo and Juliet's death.
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I agree with you with the fact that Friar Lawrence did have an opportunity to save Romeo and Juliet by making their relationship public, uniting the families. But, he decided to keep it a secret resulting in their deaths.
I agree; the Friar kept the relationship from the parents, who should have known, and the families remained divided.
In my opinion Juliet is the reason for each others death if you actually think about. In the text it had stated, "Nurse! What should she do here?My dismal scene I needs must act alone. Come, vial". This quote tells how Juliet used a drink to act as if she was dead which had ultimately led to the death of Romeo. Once Juliet had woken up she relaized that the Romeo had killed himself over her and now Juliet had killed herself over her mistake. Overall if Juliet told Romeo her plan none of this would have ever went down and both would be alive.
I think Tybalt is most to blame for the death of Romeo and Juliet. He is the entire reason Romeo was exiled, which is what lead to the death of the star-crossed lovers.
I agree that Friar Lawrence was to be blamed for because of poor decisions he made like Juliet's death. He knew how much Romeo loved Juliet and the crazy things he would do for her.
I agree that Friar Lawrence is at fault, mainly because he failed to communicate effectively, whether it was making the relation public or telling Romeo that JULIET WASN'T DEAD
I agree with you that Friar Lawrence is mostly at fault, because he had the chance to unite the families in a better way than what he actually had done. He could have communicated between themselves better so that Romeo and Juliet would still be alive and then live together.
I disagree with this. I do not believe that Friar Lawrence was at fault for the death of Romeo and Juliet, because even if he did not marry the two, they would still be in love. Marriage is just a title and does not determine if you love someone or not. I think that it does not matter if the couple were married or not. They were doomed from the beginning.
Friar Lawrence did nothing wrong. He help the two get married in secret and kept their whole relationship a secret. His idea to make Juliet appear to be dead, was a good idea, if would have worked only if Romeo got the message
Completely agree. To add to that, he could have saved Juliet's life in the tomb but chose to run away and save himself.
Though I see where you are coming from, I believe that it was not Friar Lawrence's fault-or not entirely- because Juliet also agreed to this complicated method. The only reason that Friar Lawrence was forced to come up with a plan in the first place was because Juliet and Romeo needed to escape from their families to happily live together.
I agree with this because he could've brought the families together but instead he kept everything a secret. Also, he was going to give Juliet the potion where she would then be stuck in a come for 42 whole hours!
everyone really could be blamed if you just think. Friar had Juliet pretend to be dead and united them in marriage. The Prince, he let the families fight Over and over without any real consequence. Both families because they built and held on to their grudge for many years. Romeo and Juliet themselves, I mean they didn't HAVE to kill themselves. Romeo thought that Juliet was truly dead so he poisoned himself to be with Juliet, Juliet should have never taken the potion to "be dead" and could have just left Verona and went to Mantua to be with Romeo. Everyone has a part to play.
I do not completely agree with this because that was only one of many possible outcomes and this seems unlikely. The more reasonable response the families would have come to was not allowing the children to see each other and also may have even brought much more hate and violence. It was mostly the old hate against the families that lead them to be apart.
I disagree with this claim. If he made the relationship public then the two families would create a riot. The feuding families would not be pleased about Romeo and Juliet getting married behind their backs. However, Friar Lawrence could have saved Juliet’s life instead of running away from her tomb. Before Juliet stabbed herself with Romeo’s dagger Friar Lawrence fleed, in fear of being caught in the tomb. “Come, go, good Juliet, I dare no longer stay”(Shakespeare Act 5, Scene 3).
I don't agree that Friar Lawrence was the fault of Romeo and Juliet's death. If he had made the relationship public, the Montagues and Cauplets who were already rivals would have gotten in a bigger fight. Romeo was also not liked by the Capulets as not only was he a Montague, but he was considered to be the murder of Tybalt. It would have not been possible for Friar to unite the families and make the relationship public as the Capulets had already wanted Juliet to marry Paris. The families wouldn’t have wanted to end their feud until they faced the consequences.
I agree because if he wouldn't have kept it secret it would have showed how their love is very strong and could have changes their parents perspectives.
I agree with you. Friar Lawrence plays a big role in Romeo and Juliets death. He also makes a plan that is both dangerous and concerning. The fact that he considered that to be a plan for a teenager in the first place is concerning. And Juliet thinking that was a good plan is very stupid of her.
I agree that it was the families' fault. They fought over a dumb feud that caused a lot of trouble for them. All of this could've been avoided if there was no feud to begin with.
I agree that it was friar Lawrence because of my original post to this thread. But I would also say it is the most logical conclusion for who would be the one responsible for them both dying.
In my opinion I think that there were many factors that were responsible and led deaths of Romeo and Juliet. Many believe that it might have been Friar Lawrence which I agree with partially, however, there were more factors that were responsible for their tragedy. The biggest factor was fate because they were both star crossed lovers who sacrifice themselves just so they do not have to live without each other. Their parents are also another huge factor in this demise because they have a lot of unsolved feud that needed to be resolved in an adult and professional manner. Many people also believe that it could have been avoided if Romeo and Juliet were mature enough to think deeply and make responsible decisions. However this is not the case been Tyablt had killed Mercutio which had led from their families' unresolved problems. According to Romeo and Juliet the Play, it states, "“A plague o' both your houses"(Shakespeare). This piece of evidence clearly shows that no matter what happened with Romeo and Juliet, fate had led everyone to that point of death in both families.
