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That is most definitely a story I would read, should you ever find yourself in a position to write it! :) I grew terribly fond of HH's characters (albeit somewhat to my surprise). After CoC, I couldn't imagine liking a host of characters more, and then the same happened in Ista's novel. I took a sincere liking to Wencel, even, or perhaps the depth of his history. (I even made him a mix on 8tracks. Someone, on another site, tagged it as #bestsadlichking.)
Heh, yeah, Wencel-Horseriver totally hijacked that book.
Ta, L.
Is that something you originally intended? (This being one of the other things I'd hoped to ask, but couldn't fit in the original character limit.) [Spoilers for Hallowed Hunt.] Wencel did sort of still the show, both literally and figuratively, at least until everyone caught up there at the end. Is that how you envisioned the events of the book unfolding, or did they take wings of their own (in the way these things tend to do, from time to time)?
No, Wencel was unplanned, other than that I needed a villain/prime mover. The book was far underway before I figured out what he was really up to. I initially thought he was going to be something much simpler and more standard, a mere threat to the romance that had been supposed to be central. The book shaped him initially, but then he began shaping the book back, and the most important relationship of the book stopped being Ingrey and Ijada, and started being Ingrey and Horseriver. There are some kinds of romances one could make out of this, but I wasn't going there.
Sacred kingship turned out to be the ball in play; a good change from the two saints that had held central stage in the preceding two books.
Ta, L.
I'm probably about to trample all over what's socially acceptable with this reply, BUT these amazing books don't have enough of a fandom. I have such a limited number of people to speculate with. It's a travesty.
Obviously the logical answer is to pester you, I guess?
I am a deplorable human.
(You don't have to answer this ridiculous nonsense if it's just too ridiculous. It's self-aware ridiculous nonsense.)
[Spoilers for Hallowed Hunt.]
I have a weakness for unruly book-shaping characters. :) There was definitely a noticeable shift when Horseriver's history started coming to light. I saw the 'kinds of romances' potential, too, and that was awfully fun to consider. On reading the scene where Ingrey had just come to Wencel's office from Hetwar's, I couldn't help but stop (I truly did stop and stare at the ceiling for a moment) to think "she must know, I wonder what it was like to WRITE this scene?"
Some things are better left as possibilities though. Besides, poor Ingrey. That would've been far more negativity than he needed in his life at that point. He had a full plate without a cradle-robbing lich cousin to boot. Or, more of a cradle-robbing lich cousin than Horseriver already was. ...
My SO (who's read Curse of Chalion and Paladin of Souls) said "oh my god" after I said "cradle robbing lich cousin" out loud.
*snrch*
There ought to be a term for it; its not romance or bromance or even frenemies, but that thing where the relationship between the hero and the villain is more important than the hero's relationship to any other person, including the heroine... it's a discernible trope. Something psychologically interesting going on there.
Ta, L.
More to Horseriver's credit, he seems like a trope-defying entity (beyond some of the basic ones, at least as documented on tvtropes.org). His interactions with Ingrey touch lightly over 'Evil Mentor' but, while some of that fits, I don't think his intentions were to turn Ingrey dark, per se. He seemed more attuned to showing Ingrey just how dark things could go, more than personally corrupting him, and he would've had a time of it regardless. Ingrey was a difficult rock to budge. I think he knew, at the failure of the geas.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php...
More seriously, though, Hallowed Hunt's characters stuck with me. I grew terribly fond of them, and in a startlingly different way than I grew to adore Caz and Ista from the previous two books. Their stories shine (as the saints they became, I suppose) while Hallowed Hunt invited readers to dive deeper, somehow, and I think I was happy to do so. I have all three in paperback, and while the first two make me smile, Hallowed Hunt is just.... different, somehow. Ingrey's surly, darkly ironic nature grew on me when I didn't expect it to. Ijada was ahead of her times, a lovely light of logic and reason for Ingrey to gravitate to (even if he found her smiles unnerving, at the outset). I found Horseriver intriguing, for all his pain, despair, and darkness.
It was a thought-provoking journey, darker, and rather more emotional than I expected (though I'm not sure why, as certainly the first two were emotional reads). I feel blessed to have read it, as it sticks to my thoughts even now, altogether clearly, and I haven't cracked the cover in a year. :)
(I suppose I had one other worthwhile question, but it's only tangentially related to the above so I'll make it a separate thing. This went all Horseriver-y and, well. If you ever want to ping a random willing person about that book/world/etc, I Am Here, but I suspect I've eaten up enough of your time on the subject of almost-cradle-robbing liches.)
Horseriver is a liar who lies! Don't trust anything he has to say. He probably only collected books that he wrote in his former lifetimes so he could gloat over them.
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That is most definitely a story I would read, should you ever find yourself in a position to write it! :) I grew terribly fond of HH's characters (albeit somewhat to my surprise). After CoC, I couldn't imagine liking a host of characters more, and then the same happened in Ista's novel. I took a sincere liking to Wencel, even, or perhaps the depth of his history. (I even made him a mix on 8tracks. Someone, on another site, tagged it as #bestsadlichking.)
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Heh, yeah, Wencel-Horseriver totally hijacked that book.Ta, L.
Is that something you originally intended? (This being one of the other things I'd hoped to ask, but couldn't fit in the original character limit.) [Spoilers for Hallowed Hunt.] Wencel did sort of still the show, both literally and figuratively, at least until everyone caught up there at the end. Is that how you envisioned the events of the book unfolding, or did they take wings of their own (in the way these things tend to do, from time to time)?
No, Wencel was unplanned, other than that I needed a villain/prime mover. The book was far underway before I figured out what he was really up to. I initially thought he was going to be something much simpler and more standard, a mere threat to the romance that had been supposed to be central. The book shaped him initially, but then he began shaping the book back, and the most important relationship of the book stopped being Ingrey and Ijada, and started being Ingrey and Horseriver. There are some kinds of romances one could make out of this, but I wasn't going there.Sacred kingship turned out to be the ball in play; a good change from the two saints that had held central stage in the preceding two books.
Ta, L.
I'm probably about to trample all over what's socially acceptable with this reply, BUT these amazing books don't have enough of a fandom. I have such a limited number of people to speculate with. It's a travesty. Obviously the logical answer is to pester you, I guess?
I am a deplorable human.
(You don't have to answer this ridiculous nonsense if it's just too ridiculous. It's self-aware ridiculous nonsense.)
[Spoilers for Hallowed Hunt.]
I have a weakness for unruly book-shaping characters. :) There was definitely a noticeable shift when Horseriver's history started coming to light. I saw the 'kinds of romances' potential, too, and that was awfully fun to consider. On reading the scene where Ingrey had just come to Wencel's office from Hetwar's, I couldn't help but stop (I truly did stop and stare at the ceiling for a moment) to think "she must know, I wonder what it was like to WRITE this scene?"
Some things are better left as possibilities though. Besides, poor Ingrey. That would've been far more negativity than he needed in his life at that point. He had a full plate without a cradle-robbing lich cousin to boot. Or, more of a cradle-robbing lich cousin than Horseriver already was. ...
My SO (who's read Curse of Chalion and Paladin of Souls) said "oh my god" after I said "cradle robbing lich cousin" out loud.
*snrch*There ought to be a term for it; its not romance or bromance or even frenemies, but that thing where the relationship between the hero and the villain is more important than the hero's relationship to any other person, including the heroine... it's a discernible trope. Something psychologically interesting going on there.
Ta, L.
More to Horseriver's credit, he seems like a trope-defying entity (beyond some of the basic ones, at least as documented on tvtropes.org). His interactions with Ingrey touch lightly over 'Evil Mentor' but, while some of that fits, I don't think his intentions were to turn Ingrey dark, per se. He seemed more attuned to showing Ingrey just how dark things could go, more than personally corrupting him, and he would've had a time of it regardless. Ingrey was a difficult rock to budge. I think he knew, at the failure of the geas. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php...
More seriously, though, Hallowed Hunt's characters stuck with me. I grew terribly fond of them, and in a startlingly different way than I grew to adore Caz and Ista from the previous two books. Their stories shine (as the saints they became, I suppose) while Hallowed Hunt invited readers to dive deeper, somehow, and I think I was happy to do so. I have all three in paperback, and while the first two make me smile, Hallowed Hunt is just.... different, somehow. Ingrey's surly, darkly ironic nature grew on me when I didn't expect it to. Ijada was ahead of her times, a lovely light of logic and reason for Ingrey to gravitate to (even if he found her smiles unnerving, at the outset). I found Horseriver intriguing, for all his pain, despair, and darkness.
It was a thought-provoking journey, darker, and rather more emotional than I expected (though I'm not sure why, as certainly the first two were emotional reads). I feel blessed to have read it, as it sticks to my thoughts even now, altogether clearly, and I haven't cracked the cover in a year. :)
(I suppose I had one other worthwhile question, but it's only tangentially related to the above so I'll make it a separate thing. This went all Horseriver-y and, well. If you ever want to ping a random willing person about that book/world/etc, I Am Here, but I suspect I've eaten up enough of your time on the subject of almost-cradle-robbing liches.)
Horseriver is a liar who lies! Don't trust anything he has to say. He probably only collected books that he wrote in his former lifetimes so he could gloat over them.
