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Rabelais' Codpiece

From friend Nathan "N.R." Gaddis: a joyous call to ribald readership.

From author Steven Moore: a short introduction, and a list.

With the motto ‘Do What You Will,’ Rabelais gave himself permission to do anything he damn well pleased with the language and the form of the novel; as a result, every author of an innovative novel mixing literary forms and genres in an extravagant style is indebted to Rabelais, directly or indirectly. Out of his codpiece came:

Aneau’s Alector
Nashe’s Unfortunate Traveller
López de Úbeda’s Justina
Cervantes’ Don Quixote
Béroalde de Verville’s Fantastic Tales
Sorel’s Francion
Burton’s Anatomy
Swift’s Tale of a Tub and Gulliver’s Travels
Fielding’s Tom Jones
Amory’s John Buncle
Sterne’s Tristram Shandy
the novels of Diderot
and maybe Voltaire (a late convert)
Smollett’s Adventures of an Atom
Hoffmann’s Tomcat Murr
Hugo’s Hunchback of Notre-Dame
Southey’s Doctor
Melville’s Moby-Dick
Flaubert’s Temptation of Saint Anthony and Bouvard and Becuchet
Twain’s Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Frederick Rolfe’s ornate novels
Bely’s Petersburg
Joyce’s Ulysses
Witkiewicz’s Insatiability
Barnes’ Ryder and Ladies Almanack
Gombrowicz’s Polish jokes
Flann O’Brien’s Irish farces
Philip Wylie’s Finnley Wren
Patchen’s tender novels
Burroughs’s and Kerouac’s mad ones
Nabokov’s later works
Schmidt’s fiction
the novels of Durrell
Burgess (especially A Clockwork Orange and Earthly Powers)
Gaddis and
Pynchon
Barth
Coover
Sorrentino
Reed’s Mumbo Jumbo
Brossard’s later works
the masterpieces of Latin American magic realism ( Paradiso, The Autumn of the Patriarch, Three Trapped Tigers, I the Supreme, Avalovara, Terra Nostra, Palinuro of Mexico)
the fabulous creations of those gay Cubans Severo Sarduy and Reinaldo Arenas
Markson’s Springer’s Progress
Mano’s Take Five
Ríos’s Larva and otros libros
the novels of Paul West
Tom Robbins
Stanley Elkin
Alexander Theroux
W M. Spackman
Alasdair Gray
Gaétan Soucy and
Rikki Ducornet (‘Lady Rabelais,’ as one critic called her)
Mark Leyner’s hyperbolic novels
the writings of Magister Gass
Greer Gilman’s folkloric fictions and
Roger Boylan’s Celtic comedies
Vollmann’s voluminous volumes
Wallace’s brainy fictions
Siegel’s Love in a Dead Language
Danielewski’s novels
Jackson’s Half Life
Field’s Ululu
De La Pava’s Naked Singularity and
James McCourt’s ongoing Mawrdew Czgowchwz saga.
-The Novel: An Alternative History: Beginnings to 1600, p330-331

For the Completists in the crowd.

Final note: for authors stated without a specified work, their most popular work has been added. Feel free to add more, so long as those additions correspond to the stated authors (ex: Coover, Theroux, Pynchon, etc etc).
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134 books · 143 voters · list created November 10th, 2013 by Luke (votes) .
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message 1: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Nice.

The two Chronological Indexes from Moore's Novel books ::

Vol I, Beginnings to 1600 :: http://books.google.com/books?id=mbHW...

Vol II, 1600-1800 :: http://books.google.com/books?id=yWNB... [page 984]

Both lists are HUGE ; but should be complete within google=books.

The Sterne list I'll get entered into my Vol II review about the time the above three lists exhaust your good self.


message 2: by Luke (new)

Luke Will do, once I make headway on 10+ pages of a more wrighterly bent. If they are as huge you say, I may need to enlist some input help.

Also, people of the internet, vote on this list! As you can see, there are many authors stated without specification, so add your favorite and/or read works by said authors and rack up the points!


message 3: by Jacob (new)

Jacob Do you want to limit the list to one book per author, or can we add multiple titles? Because The Melancholy of Anatomy by Shelley Jackson would probably fit here, but Half Life is already listed.


message 4: by MJ (last edited Nov 13, 2013 03:14PM) (new)

MJ Nicholls Clarify pls: fictions in the Rabelaisian tradition (i.e. bawdy, comic, encyclopedic), or any experimental text that uses/expands upon Rabelais' innovations?


message 5: by Jacob (last edited Nov 13, 2013 03:22PM) (new)

Jacob Well, just to let the description speak for itself:

"Here is the body turned inside out, its members set free, its humors released upon the world. Hearts bigger than planets devour light and warp the space around them; the city of London has a menstrual flow that gushes through its underground pipes; gobs of phlegm cement friendships and sexual relationships; and a floating fetus larger than a human becomes the new town pastor. In this debut story collection, Shelley Jackson rewrites our private passages, and translates the dumb show of the body into prose as gorgeous as it is unhygienic."

Yeah, probably.

(I'm only unsure because I read it 4+ years ago, long before I was aware of the Rabelaisian tradition, so I didn't make the connection then.)


message 6: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis MJ wrote: "Clarify pls: fictions in the Rabelaisian tradition (i.e. bawdy, comic, encyclopedic), or any experimental text that uses/expands upon Rabelais' innovations?"

Yeah, the Rabelasian thing that matters here is the formal aspect, not the content. The Pantagruelian maxim is "Do what thou wilt." So, stress on the experimental in experimental fiction. But we're sticking to the authors indicated here ; excluding those books by those same authors which would be closer to conventional/traditional/realist kinds of things.

Jacob wrote: "translates the dumb show of the body into prose as gorgeous as it is unhygienic.""

Sounds like Rabelasian body=language to me.

This list seems to have a lot of authors lacking titles, for which I understand that Aubrey is opening things up for adding more from the identified authors. However, the Shandy list seems to have titles connected to most authors so she/we might treat that list differently. Lots of overlap between the two lists.


message 8: by Luke (last edited Nov 13, 2013 04:22PM) (new)

Luke Jacob wrote: "Do you want to limit the list to one book per author, or can we add multiple titles? Because The Melancholy of Anatomy by Shelley Jackson would probably fit here, but Half Life is already listed."

You can add multiple books by an author, so long as they are listed without a corresponding title. Ex: Pynchon, Coover, Durrell, etc etc. Not Joyce (Ulysses), etc etc.


message 9: by Jacob (last edited Nov 13, 2013 04:19PM) (new)

Jacob Aubrey wrote: "You can add multiple books by an author, so long as they are listed without a corresponding title. Ex: Pynchon, Coover,Durrell, etc etc. Not Joyce (Ulysses), etc etc. "

Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up.

(So Melancholy of Anatomy is out, then, as Half Life is specified for Jackson. Blast! You'd think it would qualify based on the title alone...)


message 10: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Jacob wrote: "Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up."

ditto.


message 11: by Luke (new)

Luke Ensure that the books you are adding correspond to the gist of the list. You know who you are.


message 12: by Paul (new)

Paul Again, I've voted in no order for those I want to read, leaving out those I have read


message 13: by sologdin (new)

sologdin sounds like frye's category of "anatomy," or menippean satire, has been folded into the novel?


message 14: by Gregsamsa (new)

Gregsamsa I know lists like these always attract nit-pickers like a curly strand of pest paper, but I'm kinda surprised by Durrel-yes/Barthelme-no, or Reed's Mumbo Jumbo over Yellow Back Radio Broke Down whose innards burst with WAY more Gargantagrueliciousness, as within its guts you can find this actual organ:

"No one says a novel has to be one thing. It can be anything it wants to be, a vaudeville show, the six o’clock news, the mumblings of wild men saddled by demons."


Anyhoo, I know that most of my voted-fors will linger at the bottom of the list if they make it at all, but I'm comfortable with that.


message 15: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Gregsamsa wrote: "always attract nit-pickers"

Yes. And it does drive me batty. The pace of proliferation of these lists in recent days should leave everyone more than satisfied.

This Rabelasian List and that Shandian List are both CAPRICIOUSLY cobbled together by one very damn=well= read kind of guy. These are merely the lists of ONE MAN's reading preference.

Neither list is exhaustive nor definitive. Why do I have to say that?

These are lists. Simple. Period.

And for fucking christ's sake, stop arguing with Moore through Aubrey. If you want to argue with Moore's choices, read his books and write a review.


message 16: by Mala (new)

Mala Some books are common to both the lists that Aubrey has created so I've avoided voting for the same books here if that's ok.
Half of the names( European,unpronounceable ones!) are unknown to me so I've left them out as well. Sorry.


message 17: by Rayroy (new)

Rayroy Mason & Dixon is so much better then Gravity's Rainbow though both are amazing!


message 18: by [deleted user] (new)

since this seems to be limited to moore's selections, it should be noted that helen dewitt's the last samurai & roberto bolano's 2666 aren't included in the list above--though i would agree that they are very much in the tradition of rabelais.


message 19: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Aidan wrote: ", it should be noted that helen dewitt's the last samurai & roberto bolano's 2666 aren't included in the list above"

Doubtless! I believe DeWitt made it onto Moore's Shandian Spawn list (for all I know it and this one are near solid overlappers) and I think I supplement'd Moore's Encyclopedic list (from his review of IJ) with 2666. If you don't watch it though Moore has a tendency to fold everything into the Rabelaisian/Shandian streams because they are the tradition of the novel.


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

oh, no, i wasn't arguing for their inclusion on this specific list--by 'above list' i meant, uh, the list above the list above, ie moore's. 2666 & the last samurai are on the list below the list above the list above. the part where you vote. but yeah moore has dewitt on another list & probably bolano somewhere in his canon.


message 21: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Aidan wrote: "oh, no, i wasn't arguing for their inclusion on this specific list--by 'above list' i meant, uh, the list above the list above, ie moore's. 2666 & the last samurai are on the list below the list ab..."

check. usually these lists get the other kind of comment, the kind of comment I thought you might be making but weren't because you were making the helpful kind of comment which like I said is usually not the typical kind of comment made in these contexts. I think I'm supposed to be able to edit the list cuz I'm a librarian, but I don't see how and it's probably better to have list=owner Aubrey curate the list as she sees best=fit.


message 22: by Gabriel (new)

Gabriel Soll Im new to the listopia thing, trying to add a couple of Jose Saramago's books to this...probably all of his could be added, but I dont want to overdo things. ha.


message 23: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Gabriel wrote: "Im new to the listopia thing, trying to add a couple of Jose Saramago's books to this...probably all of his could be added, but I dont want to overdo things. ha."

Sorry. Please add books only if their authors are already listed ; ie, "for authors stated without a specified work, their most popular work has been added. Feel free to add more, so long as those additions correspond to the stated author".


message 24: by Nathan "N.R." (last edited Oct 28, 2015 07:23AM) (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis I just deleted a bunch of stuff that don't belong here. And it's really annoying ; and I won't list those deleted because they don't belong here. So ::

Note: Don't add ANY books to the list ; the list is complete (see the header of this Listopia). Add'ing books that aren't authorized by that list will be DELETED. We're super serious!


It's nice for you to id more books which belong to this family of resemblances, but this list is not for that.


message 25: by MJ (new)

MJ Nicholls Why is On the Road in this list?


message 26: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis MJ wrote: "Why is On the Road in this list?"

"Burroughs’s and Kerouac’s mad ones" + "for authors stated without a specified work, their most popular work has been added" = an unfortunate inclusion of On The Road. I think Visions of Cody may have been the moore=intended title(?).


message 27: by Peter (new)

Peter Much as I like it, I think Hoban's Riddley Walker has crept quietly onto the list without carrying a permit...


message 28: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Peter wrote: "Much as I like it, I think Hoban's Riddley Walker has crept quietly onto the list without carrying a permit..."

What the...?! It certainly looks like it belongs ; and one would think to find it among the Shandian Spawn too. Alas! no list maker is the final word upon a matter, so I'll just have to quietly remove our dear Hoban. Thanks for catching this little sneak!


message 29: by Simon (new)

Simon Shouldn't Sartor Resartus be on this list?


message 30: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Simon wrote: "Shouldn't Sartor Resartus be on this list?"

Nope. But it is on the Shandian Spawn ::
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4...


message 31: by Simon (new)

Simon As long as it's on some list somewhere!

(Evidently, your two lists have principles of inclusion that I cannot abstract just from looking at the works on them. This clearly illustrates the Kripke interpretation of Wittgenstein on following rules!)


message 32: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Simon wrote: "This clearly illustrates the Kripke interpretation of Wittgenstein on following rules!"

They are both built by Steven Moore upon very solid and deep foundations of wide and eclectic reading. They include what they do include but do not necessarily exclude what is not included. A very brief and poor characterization of the principle of this list is posted way up there on top. And upon the reading of Tristram Shandy one can't but help finding his finger prints all over all kinds of novels. [there may or may not be further principle=clues included in my reviews linked to each respective list, or maybe not] But yeah, herding cats, rabbits, and certain breeds of sheep ; they just end up Doing What They Will.


message 33: by Simon (new)

Simon Thanks!


message 34: by Pablo S. (new)

Pablo S. Martín I think that Borges doesn't belong to this list...not even nearly to the Pantagruelism. Maybe metaphysical...but not experimental as the Rabelasian tradition we found on everyone on this list.


message 35: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis P41R47 wrote: "Borges doesn't belong to this list..."

Does so!


message 36: by Pablo S. (last edited Feb 03, 2018 12:43PM) (new)

Pablo S. Martín Nathan "N.R." wrote: "P41R47 wrote: "Borges doesn't belong to this list..."

Does so!"


And why is that? Every other entry in this list uses the narrative in very innovative ways, as the motto ‘Do What You Will,’ of the Rabelasian tradition suggest.
On the contrary, Borges stories are plain logical narrative with a metaphysical enphasis. If Borges is included in this list just for some mathematial graphics in his stories like in 'An Examination of the Work of Herbert Quain', well, thats not innovation, its just a resourse to explain something and does not add anything to the proper plot.
If you can expand on this, it will be really helpfull. Because without proper explication, what negates ''50 shades of gray'' of enter here? That book also ‘Does What Her Will', in a strangely erotic way, but in the same way as Borges metaphysical stories try.


message 37: by Peter (new)

Peter "Does so!"

Don't either! Several Borges volumes have inserted themselves into the list, but none appears to be in Steve Moore's Rabelaisian canon. Also a Julian Barnes book is in the list. I know it just says "Barnes" in the preamble, but we are surely talking Djuna, not Julian. And who is J.J. Abrams?


message 38: by Ned (new)

Ned Quite a list! And quite a number of authors I've yet to get to.
But without Honore de Balzac...
this seems flaccid, or, misshapen at best.


message 39: by Pablo S. (new)

Pablo S. Martín Ned wrote: "Quite a list! And quite a number of authors I've yet to get to.
But without Honore de Balzac...
this seems flaccid, or, misshapen at best."


Yeah, Ned! There are a lot of authors that everyone might think that totally 'have' to be in this list (and a lot of other that don't, also). But i would recommend you to just 'look' at this list. You might be a high degree scholar, with a lot of stuedies in literature and in the experimental approach that almost all the authors here had... but that doesn't matter at all. Who made this list only put (or take out) his own criteria on selecting the different works for the list, also partially made by author Steven Moore who wrote the book The Novel: An Alternative History: Beginnings to 1600 and it continuation The Novel: An Alternative History: 1600 to 1800, and doesn't hear suggestions or different opinions.
Also, my comment is a totally-out-of-question-just-joking-around; but, hey! Honore de Balzac is one of the authors i most respect, and i am totally open to hear why you think he might be here. I only read 'Le Pere Goriot' and it was a hell of a ride. But i don't think that the satiric approach of the book is enough to put it on the list. Maybe all the works in ''La Comédie Humaine'', because its a totall bonkers of neat idea. You read one from Balzac that is much more experimental or have an enciclopedic take on the subject or something?


message 40: by Ned (new)

Ned P41R47 wrote: "Ned wrote: "Quite a list! And quite a number of authors I've yet to get to.
But without Honore de Balzac...
this seems flaccid, or, misshapen at best."

Yeah, Ned! There are a lot of authors that e..."


I DO like the idea of a huge list like this. Balzac has another affinity besides his Droll Stories which directly admits in the first sentence what it relates to: those tosspots and drinkers who Rabelais himself addressed. Thirty stories follow all the ribald rule-breaking of kings and commoners, of all the sorts, and lists, magical word clusters displaying surprisingly wiser than usual glimpses into across, in and out of regular life. Thirty pages in and you'll know. Classic.
Oh yeah, the other thing, they're both Tourainian. :)


message 41: by Pablo S. (new)

Pablo S. Martín Ned wrote: "P41R47 wrote: "Ned wrote: "Quite a list! And quite a number of authors I've yet to get to.
But without Honore de Balzac...
this seems flaccid, or, misshapen at best."

Yeah, Ned! There are a lot of..."


Oh, yes! I forget Balzac's ''Les Cent Contes drolatiques''. They are totally in the same vein as Rabelais. I remember reading one of them in an anthology an instantly think about Rabelais. Thanks for rememeber me this book. I' gonna dig it as soon as i can. ;)


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