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Ulysses S. Grant Poll

This poll will examine the choices for the Ulysses S. Grant reading selection which will be the next President covered in the Presidential Series. The order for the Presidents selected was determined by the group membership.

This selection will begin on October 4, 2010 and will continue for three months (October, November and December). This discussion will be led by Bryan. Bryan has an extraordinary background and will be a great moderator to lead this discussion. He has assumed the responsibilities for the Presidential Series reads and will be leading these book discussions.

We have added all of the books nominated on the Ulysses S. Grant thread and a few others. However, if you do not see your favorite book on this list; then just comment or pop me a note and I will immediately add it to this poll.

You can always change your vote at any time; so nothing is lost. Some of the Grant books deal with only a certain period of his life, some may be multi-volume (if so- I have added both separately), some deal with other topics too; some are all encompassing, others deal with specific events in Grant's life or presidency and others are by the man, himself.

Before making your selection, please try to look up your choice and make sure it really is a book you are interested in; do not be lured in by the title. Also, check out the author and what others have said about the book before you (reviewers who you trust). Then of course, make your selection.

Bentley

 
  9 votes, 30.0%

 
  4 votes, 13.3%

 
  3 votes, 10.0%

 
  3 votes, 10.0%

 
  2 votes, 6.7%

 
  2 votes, 6.7%

 
  2 votes, 6.7%

Grant Moves South 1861-1863 by Bruce Catton by Bruce Catton Bruce Catton
BOOK II
 
  1 vote, 3.3%

 
  1 vote, 3.3%

 
  1 vote, 3.3%

Grant Comes East by Newt Gingrich Newt Gingrich by Newt Gingrich

THIS IS AN ALTERNATE HISTORY SELECTION
 
  1 vote, 3.3%

 
  1 vote, 3.3%

Personal Memoirs of U. S. Grant Volume 2 by Ulysses S. (Ulysses Simpson), 1822-1885 Grant by Ulysses S. Grant Ulysses S. Grant
VOLUME II
 
  0 votes, 0.0%

Captain Sam Grant/1822-1861 (Classic Biography of Ulysses S. Grant, Vol. 1) by Lloyd Lewis by Lloyd Lewis
BOOK I
 
  0 votes, 0.0%

 
  0 votes, 0.0%

 
  0 votes, 0.0%

 
  0 votes, 0.0%

 
  0 votes, 0.0%

Never Call Retreat (Gingrich and Forstchen's Civil War Trilogy) by Newt Gingrich by Newt Gingrich Newt Gingrich

THIS IS AN ALTERNATE HISTORY SELECTION
 
  0 votes, 0.0%

 
  0 votes, 0.0%


Poll added by: Bentley



This Poll is About

Authors:
Newt Gingrich, Horace Porter, Bruce Catton, Ulysses S. Grant, Frank J. Scaturro, Michael Korda, Brooks D. Simpson, Jean Edward Smith, J.F.C. Fuller, Joan Waugh, Lloyd Lewis, Geoffrey Perrett, Josiah Bunting, Charles Bracelen Flood, William S. McFeely

Books:
General Ulysses S. Grant: The Soldier and the Man Grant Comes East (Gettysburg, #2) Grant Grant Moves South, 1861-1863 Grant and Sherman: The Friendship That Won the Civil War Grant Takes Command 1863-1865 Captain Sam Grant Personal Memoirs of U. S. Grant,  Volume 1 Ulysses S. Grant The Generalship of Ulysses S. Grant Ulysses S. Grant: Triumph over Advcersity, 1822-1865 Never Call Retreat: Lee and Grant: The Final Victory (Gettysburg, #3) Grant: A Biography Let Us Have Peace: Ulysses S. Grant and the Politics of War and Reconstruction, 1861-1868 (Civil War America) President Grant Reconsidered Personal Memoirs of U. S. Grant, Volume 2 Campaigning With Grant U. S. Grant: American Hero, American Myth (Civil War America) Ulysses S. Grant: The Unlikely Hero (Eminent Lives) Ulysses S. Grant: Soldier & President (Modern Library (Paperback))

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message 1: by Vincent (new)

Vincent I have read the Bunting book which was an easy read but I am not sure it was thorough enough for the curiousity of our group. It was written as part of a presidential biography series. That being said I don't know the other books except to note that the Memoirs of Grant have always been well regarded in the readings I have done but of course they are his writings and certainly have no historical perspective.

I may just leave the final selection to the group or try to dig up some reviews.

Any comments however would be of interest


message 2: by Bentley (last edited Aug 18, 2010 12:40PM) (new)

Bentley Mod
Vince, thank you for your comments on the Bunting book. These are the titles recommended by the group members on the Ulysses S. Grant thread; I have added some others.

You are of course correct about the Memoirs and I had added them to the thread before for that reason.

However, have you read or have you heard of other books that are not on the list that we should add; I am always happy to do that and of course, folks can change their vote up to the end of the poll if they so desire; if something better comes along (like a better title which has been added).

I have also heard good things about the book by Jean Edward Smith; have you read that book about Grant? By all means, please dig up some reviews and let us know.

I think we have a comprehensive list (at least for starters) and thank you as always for your input. It is always well thought out and helpful.

Please make sure to cite the book/author you are mentioning (book cover, author's photo and link). It makes it easier for folks to know which selections you are talking about. Thanks as always Vince.

Bentley



Grant by Jean Edward Smith Jean Edward Smith Jean Edward Smith



Personal Memoirs Ulysses S. Grant (Modern Library War, Modern Library War) by Ulysses S. Grant by Ulysses S. Grant Ulysses S. Grant

(I used the book covers which showed the two separate volumes of the above Memoirs)

Ulysses S. Grant The American Presidents Series (The American Presidents) by Josiah Bunting by Josiah Bunting


message 3: by Shannon (new)

Shannon I think I goofed. I think I voted for a book while I was still researching their synopses. I had two windows open and I meant to click on the scroll bar and move the image around and I missed.

Having now done my research, I can live with my vote, and hope I didn't invalidate the whole process. But my first choice book is something else. It looks like we're using a blind ballot system though, so what should I do?

Shannon

ps: breathe easy: I don't drive!


message 4: by Bentley (new)

Bentley Mod
If you scroll down to the bottom of the poll, you should see green writing which states change my vote and beside it invite friends. Click on change my vote and you should be good to go.

Let me know if this helps.


message 5: by Shannon (new)

Shannon All better! Thank you!


message 6: by Bentley (new)

Bentley Mod
Glad to be of help.


message 7: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig We have a pretty good list so far. Bentley, why don't we add:

Let Us Have Peace Ulysses S. Grant and the Politics of War and Reconstruction, 1861-1868 by Brooks D. Simpson Brooks D. Simpson

I ran across this title from the Ohio Historical Society's website. They operate his birthplace.


message 8: by Bentley (last edited Aug 19, 2010 10:07AM) (new)

Bentley Mod
OK, I will add it. Thanks, I think the list is fairly comprehensive; but if we missed any good books, I am all ears. There was another book about Grant by Simpson which I had added before so he has now two books on the list. Thanks for the suggestion. It is on there now.

Let Us Have Peace Ulysses S. Grant and the Politics of War and Reconstruction, 1861-1868 by Brooks D. Simpson Ulysses S. Grant Triumph Over Adversity, 1822-1865 by Brooks D. Simpson by Brooks D. Simpson


message 9: by Bentley (last edited Aug 23, 2010 09:44AM) (new)

Bentley Mod
Patricrk, there are two alternate history selections among the above which were recommended by group members. We do not have any issue with reading and/or selecting even these books as a spotlighted or presidential series read; but of course, these need to be identified as alternate history which they were not. I have added that designation above to both selections. Sometimes a change of pace is nice; although our primary and majority of selections are usually non fiction. We also have an historical fiction area where these books would probably be more appropriate but the spotlighted and/or presidential series book selection does not always have to be non fiction (although for the most part these are the selections chosen and recommended by our group members) and most importantly that is the group's primary focus.

For example, Never Call Retreat by Newt Gingrich is the last novel in a trilogy that started with Gettysburg and continued with Grant Comes East. For those not familiar with the series, the novels are based on the concept that a few different decisions during key moments at Gettysburg could have led to a Confederate victory changing the course of the war.

Alternate History can sometimes be an interesting way to talk about the what ifs. Some people like it, some people don't. I do think folks might want to read Gettysburg first because that is the first book in the trilogy and the one that really should come first but this is a poll where we will read a book where Ulysses S. Grant is featured and that is not a conflict where he was.

Some folks find alternate history troubling and I probably would be one of those; but we offer different experiences here although we primarily focus on non fiction.

Here is a write-up on Never Call Retreat which is listed above from the Civil War News:

http://www.civilwarnews.com/reviews/b...



Never Call Retreat (Gingrich and Forstchen's Civil War Trilogy) by Newt Gingrich by Newt Gingrich Newt Gingrich

Gettysburg by Newt Gingrich by Newt Gingrich Newt Gingrich

Grant Comes East by Newt Gingrich by Newt Gingrich Newt Gingrich

My own personal preference would be to read a biography of Ulysses S. Grant or a memoir which focuses totally on the man himself and/or was written by him.

Hope this provides you and others with any explanation needed.

Regards,

Bentley


message 10: by Bentley (new)

Bentley Mod
I want to thank those members who have voted. We offer this opportunity to nominate books as well as to vote for the one you think would be the best selection. We do this so that you will be satisfied with the selections and might participate in the discussions of the books themselves. Additionally, when we create lists for each president; we track the number of votes from each poll and create future lists based upon your votes. So if a book gets 0 votes; it is at the bottom of the list and probably will never be considered for a future read. The other books with votes will be placed in a list and we will move down that list accordingly when we get around to that president again. So nominating books as well as voting is very important.

Thank you for doing that.

Bentley


message 11: by Dick (new)

Dick Edwards I vote for "President Grant Reconsidered" by Frank Scaturro.


message 12: by Bryan (new)

Bryan Craig Hi Dick:

Unfortunately, this poll is closed. We did the discussion late last year. Let us know if you decide to read this book; we would like to hear about it.

However, there is the Clinton poll:
http://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/81...

Also, don't forget to use the "add book/author" feature, so your citation looks like:

President Grant Reconsidered by Frank J. Scaturro Frank J. Scaturro

Great to hear from you.


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