The Throne of Fire discussion

Who Would win

Annabeth is older, stronger, been in more battles, and has a dagger and awesome apps on Daedalus' laptop; plus, her mother's the goddess of war! Sadie, on the other hand, could just Ha-di Annabeth, although I doubt she's that barbaric. I think Annabeth would win. Just my opinion.

Annabeth!

Annabeth. HANDS DOWN. i really like Sadie, but she needs to prove herself a little bit more. Sorry, Sadie.

Annabeth, but I like Sadie a lot.

Sadie because Annabeth would try to talk it out first but Sadie would just be like "punch"

Annabeth would win, but I really liked Sadie.

Sadie. Just like Lexi said, being the daughter of Athena Annabeth would talk it out first.

it depends on the "battle". A battle of wits, Annabeth. A physical battle, Annabeth. A sass battle, Sadie.

I think that Annabeth would win due to 1)she's a daughter of athena which means 2)she can analyze war stretegies, and fight pretty good with her dagger 3)Annabeth would first reason with her

Sadie well she basically just uses magic spells, which is not so much

Sadie, because she knows how to cast spells for attacks, counter attacks and defenses.

Annabeth. Sadie's awesome and everything, but Annabeth is better.

Totally agree with Leah on this one. Annabeth in everything but a sass battle

Annabeth because she's so much more developed. She acknowledges her strengths and weaknesses, and Sadie just kind of starts battling. I like Sadie, but unless it's a battle of sarcasm or talking, Annabeth totally wins.

Sadie. Nothing stopping Sadie from transforming Annabeth into a cat or blowing her up with ha-di.

Annabeth

Annabeth duh

Even though I like Sadie, Annabeth is a much better fighter.

Annabeth!

I love Annabeth, but she doesn't have any power, Sadie could just wave her staff before Annabeth could reach her.

Okay, I dont know because Sadie could use magic. BUT, Annabeth is real good at fighting sooooo. . .

Grace wrote: "I love Annabeth, but she doesn't have any power, Sadie could just wave her staff before Annabeth could reach her."

Not if Sadie cant see her...

Ashley wrote: "Grace wrote: "I love Annabeth, but she doesn't have any power, Sadie could just wave her staff before Annabeth could reach her."

Not if Sadie cant see her..."

Sadie can lower her vision into the Duat and see through Annabeth's invisibility so the cap's useless against the Kane sister.

And even if she can't see Annabeth, Sadie can just create a shield around her and summon a lion to hunt down Annabeth anyways.

Lol like a lion can beat Annabeth

Annabeth loses either way.

I don't think she would

Explain, because Sadie is currently one of the strongest magicians in the House of Life right now next to Carter and Amos Kane.

And Annabeth's one of the strongest demigods.

No, not even close. She's intelligent but she lacks powers to take down powerful magicians and demigods like Carter and Percy.

I said one of. Of course she's not stronger than Percy. He's like the strongest. Annabeth's smarter than Sadie. If they had to fight she'd either beat her or find a way to escape if she was losing. Sadie would win by default but neither of them really lose (as in die).

How does Annabeth beat Sadie again? I don't see her getting through Sadie's shields or ha-di spells.

Somehow! She's smart. She'll figure it out.

Sadie's shields can defend against attacks more powerful than Annabeth's knife.

Heck if Annabeth gets close, Sadie either blows her up and transforms her into a banana slug. Heck, let's see Annabeth fight against a magician and a hungry lion at the same time.

*sigh* I don't really want to get into a debate about what characters gonna win when we'll never really know for sure anyway. I think Annabeth's going to win. End of story.

It's not really a shame if Annabeth loses to Sadie. The magician just has better accomplishments and powers.

Accomplishments? Annabeth saved the world as many times as Sadie did. I don't see how accomplishments have anything to do with fighting.

Accomplishments as in with their powers such as Sadie blowing up multiple cars with ha-di or her summoning a giant kite to destroy an army of monsters or her power to summon Order to hold back Apophis.

Ok well as I said Annabeth has saved the world and other people as many times as Sadie has so...

...Sadie wins due to having stronger and better powers that counter anything Annabeth can throw at her whereas Annabeth cannot hope to counter most of Sadie's spells and other powers.

Hayley wrote: "Totally agree with Leah on this one. Annabeth in everything but a sass battle"

so agreed! Although she sometimes sasses Percy but im guessing thats irrelevent :)

Masked Lunatic wrote: "...Sadie wins due to having stronger and better powers that counter anything Annabeth can throw at her whereas Annabeth cannot hope to counter most of Sadie's spells and other powers."

Actually Sadie does without thinking where as Annabeth thinks and is very clever about finding ways to bet people. Annabeth is the daughter of Athena who is the goddess of wisdom and BATTLE PLAN and if she has her mothers traits -which she does- She will think of a plan and always win even if it takes 100 tries. Sadie has to rely on the magic of a goddess.

Exactly.

Thank you.

Chrystal wrote: "Masked Lunatic wrote: "...Sadie wins due to having stronger and better powers that counter anything Annabeth can throw at her whereas Annabeth cannot hope to counter most of Sadie's spells and othe..."

You're forgetting that Sadie also uses plans as well. Sadie is capable of using magic on her own without Isis, so no she doesn't rely on a goddess' power. And Annabeth is reckless at times as well (Dr. Thorn come in mind)

Can Annabeth survive being burnt, blown up, or transformed into a lizard? If not, she loses. Anything Annabeth throws at Sadie on the other hand can be blocked by a shield. Heck, it doesn't even take a genius to use Sadie's powers to destroy someone lacking in powers like Annabeth.

Add the fact that Sadie's Egyptian powers would be unfamiliar to Annabeth and catch her off by surprise, which destroys pretty much destroy any strategy Annabeth will be able to use against Sadie from the start.

So no, the only way Annabeth will be able to beat Sadie is if Sadie decides not to do anything, which wouldn't happen.

Whatever. Scroll up a little and you'll see the majority of people agreeing that Annabeth would win. She would win. That's our opinion. Again I don't feel like debating about this since we'll never know for sure anyway.

An opinion isn't always right but whatever. From the books, Sadie shows more power than Annabeth and is better off fighting someone else from the Seven.

Just because it was never mentioned doesn't mean she didn't study Egypt. She likes to study ancient civilizations therefor she could actually know a little more than you believe. Plus Sadie WAS NOT able to use most of those spells before interlocking minds with Isis.

Annabeth doesn't know Egyptian magic unless you want to argue that she took a class in one of the Nomes before. She might know the architecture and relics of Egypt like the Great Pyramids and the Rosetta Stone but she never studied the magic of Egypt's magicians so Sadie has the element of surprise on her side.

Sadie was capable of using powerful spells without hosting Isis...

in the last book sure but when and where is this fight taking place exactly? hmmm?

Who said anything about her having to study in a Nome she could just go ask the Hecate cabin. I'm pretty sure one of them would study ancient magic.

No Sadie was not able to use those spells without Isis because Isis was still in her subconscious.