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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

I need advice! I like writing, but never really make a interesting story. I know what I wants to happen in the middle and the end, but I JUST don't know the begning. I try really hard to with some advice that my friends give me, but it never seems to work. HELP!


message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

It's kind of mysterious. It takes place in a kingdom that I made up named Seronia. Here is a short summary:

5 years after Queen Violet's death, Seronia is taken under a horrible war agianst Qaeichka. King RedBroth is killied by the DreadFull guards of Qaeichka. Now Princess Aurora, Princess BreadFirst, Princess Candy, and Prince EggPlant is on the run. Searching for the Guardians of the City which have not been seen for a hundred years.

They go through loss, dangers, and a deadly secret in the Book of Laws. Will they live?


Princess Aurora is 16 years old. She's sweet and dangerous. She also holds the horrible secret why her mother died.

Princess BreadFirst is 14 years old. Nice, boring, and odd. She is still sad about her mother's death.

Princess Candy is the youngest daughter of King Breadfirst and Queen Violet. She's 12 years old. She is some what of a tom boy and loves Fox hunting. She loves the kingdom and every single person she sees. People call her Princess Candy of the North (The North is the nicest and sweetest country.)

Prince Eggplant is 5 years old and is quiet. You can't really tell what his personality is yet, but he spends a lot of time with his sister, Aurora.

It might not sound very interesting yet but it will get there...


message 3: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
Just don't write a beginning. I've heard that a lot of books before publishing are better WITHOUT their first chapter.

What you can do is dive right into the action, and do the characterization and such as you go along with the plot.


message 4: by [deleted user] (new)

Great advice, but how would I do that?


message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks :)

Unfortunatly, I want to read Twilight before watching the movie :(


message 6: by [deleted user] (new)

No... my sisters already read it. So you didn't spoil anything :)


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

*Chuckle*


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

I LOVE TWILIGHT THE MOVIE!!! *wow*


message 9: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 5857 comments Mod
ME TOOOOO!!


message 10: by Seth, The plan is simple--stay alive. (new)

Seth (ninjaaaaaofwritingbooks) | 2205 comments Mod
ew. worst move ever.


message 11: by Kenzie (new)

Kenzie | 2838 comments What?! I loved that movie!


message 12: by [deleted user] (new)

What? IT IS THE BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR!!!


message 13: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 5857 comments Mod
YESSSS!!!
seth u suck :P lol


message 14: by Seth, The plan is simple--stay alive. (new)

Seth (ninjaaaaaofwritingbooks) | 2205 comments Mod
guys, it was horrible. the books were good.


message 15: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
*sigh* Actually, I think that the movie was better than the book. I never actually thought that I'd say that but... the books really aren't that good. They're entirely fluffy. Plus the characterization (one of the two most important elements of a story) kinda sucked. As in, the characters were unrealistic. In the book I mean. I've also heard (though I can't prove this) that the plot (the other most important element) was pretty much a ripoff of another book. All the same, Meyer has a style that sucks you in and keeps you reading. So I did enjoy reading the books, even though I kinda wish that I hadn't...
But the movie was average. It strayed a bit from the typical hollywood production (yay!)

But no matter your opinion, you cannot deny the hilarity of my friend's explanation of edward:
"He is not a vampire. Vampires do not sparkle. Edward is a mermaid."


message 16: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 5857 comments Mod
yes it was horrible but in a CORNY AMAZING KIND OF WAY!!! YAAAY
AND I <3 THE BOOKS TOO!!!


message 17: by Kenzie (new)

Kenzie | 2838 comments Wait, who said he's a mermaid, Roni? Was it Glenn? :)


message 18: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
haha, no. I don't think that he's read the books or seen the movie. It was Paige that said it.


message 19: by Sella, ov vey! i haven't checked this group in months. >< (new)

Sella Malin | 4530 comments Mod
SETH YOU ARE INSANE!!! I LOVED THE MOVIE!!!! IT WAS AMAZING!! haha XD and the books are amazing too!! XD


message 20: by Kenzie (new)

Kenzie | 2838 comments LOL

I figured it was either her or Glenn, I went with Glenn because, well, that's the type of stuff he says. Along with other things.... LOL


message 21: by [deleted user] (new)

Seth :D wrote: "guys, it was horrible. the books were good."


I agree with that partly.

Did anyone see the deleted scene with James and Victoria? And how they . . . *shudder* it makes me sick just thinking about it. SO GROSS!!!



message 22: by Seth, The plan is simple--stay alive. (new)

Seth (ninjaaaaaofwritingbooks) | 2205 comments Mod
did they like make out?


message 23: by [deleted user] (new)

*nods*


message 24: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod

HA HAHA *giggles* nano. Kenzie understands, but you REALLY don't wanna know.

Kenzie wrote: "LOL

I figured it was either her or Glenn, I went with Glenn because, well, that's the type of stuff he says. Along with other things.... LOL"


Yes... other things... I don't think that Marie is ever going to forget what he said when they first met. Normally he isn't... THAT extreme. Although he and paige somehow came up with the idea of a classical band called the flavored condoms...? Apparently, we would all be different flavors and play a different instrument, but because I don't play any instruments but I'm in choir, I would sing. Steffi and I find it quite... strange. Neither of us quite get it.

And by the way, I find it quite hilarious that we're having two different conversations. :P And it's not really at all confusing.



message 25: by Sella, ov vey! i haven't checked this group in months. >< (new)

Sella Malin | 4530 comments Mod
Ashlyn ((Cali)) wrote: "Seth :D wrote: "guys, it was horrible. the books were good."


I agree with that partly.

Did anyone see the deleted scene with James and Victoria? And how they . . . *shudder* it makes me sic..."


um, thats strange...



message 26: by Kenzie (last edited Mar 31, 2009 12:55PM) (new)

Kenzie | 2838 comments *bursts out laughing* HA HA HA HA!! Roni, were you there when--oh yeah, you were! When Paige said that James was---HA HA HA HA!!!!

Sorry, that's just TOO funny that you guys bring up James and Victoria kissing after this morning.

No, I don't think Marie will EVER forget. Everytime she sees him she nudges me and whispers, "sexual needs boy." LOL


message 27: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
Well, no, actually I wasn't there, but I've heard the theroy... which is quite hiliarious, I agree. :)

And... HAHA. LOL (literally) sexual needs boy...... why is that so funny?

*giggles* Do you think that I should dare to tell him?


message 28: by Kenzie (new)

Kenzie | 2838 comments It just made my morning.

Like the one Paige said about Edward being a mermaid. "Vampires don't sparkle. Edward does. So Edward is a mermaid." LOL

I'm not sure. Marie just finds it HILARIOUS.

Wait, dare to tell him what? That Marie only knows him as "sexual needs boy"?


message 29: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 5857 comments Mod
*has totally lost track of what this topic is about* lol


message 30: by Seth, The plan is simple--stay alive. (new)

Seth (ninjaaaaaofwritingbooks) | 2205 comments Mod
:D


message 31: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 5857 comments Mod
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message 32: by Seth, The plan is simple--stay alive. (new)

Seth (ninjaaaaaofwritingbooks) | 2205 comments Mod
haha.


message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

Well, anyway do any of you have advice for me?


message 34: by Seth, The plan is simple--stay alive. (new)

Seth (ninjaaaaaofwritingbooks) | 2205 comments Mod
idk, i am not that much of a help.


message 35: by Sella, ov vey! i haven't checked this group in months. >< (new)

Sella Malin | 4530 comments Mod
I think you should just try to write it out and go with the flow, and just write with whatever comes to your fingertips. Don't worry about it; just work with whatever comes out.


message 36: by [deleted user] (new)

Thank YOU!


message 37: by Rhonda (new)

Rhonda (rhondak) The key to writing is to write what you know. Although it seems logical to begin writing at the beginning and write until the end, most books are rarely written ths way. This is especially true if one has an excellent idea of one particular part of a story or book. They key is to write the parts that you can see/feel in your head or heart. When you have done that, you will have a much better feel of what should come before or after as the case may be.

The issue of beginning a book or story is that one is often struck by too many options and sometimes you can't choose: don't allow that to worry you because the way you write the rest of it will narrow your field of choices, often creating a much better beginning than you would have ordinarily written.
In fairness, using this method often means that you will have to go back and touch up things, but I have found that this just creates a better product.


message 38: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 5857 comments Mod
Beginnings are hard. Usually I just go with whatever my gut instinct is, and then later on, if I don't like the beginning and I have a better idea in mind, I'll change it. But don't stress out too much about it, or you'll never start your story. It's better to just let it start flowing, like Sella said, and then fix it later on if there are problems.


message 39: by [deleted user] (new)

Thank you, guys! That helps me alot! :)


message 40: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 5857 comments Mod
sure thing :)


message 41: by Sella, ov vey! i haven't checked this group in months. >< (new)

Sella Malin | 4530 comments Mod
np. good luck :D


message 42: by [deleted user] (last edited Apr 13, 2009 09:27AM) (new)

Okay, I joined Script Frenzy and decided to use Seronia, to read a excerpt from the story click here

I didn't want my whole story on here, just in case someone took the idea. I hope it's good! :)


message 43: by Sella, ov vey! i haven't checked this group in months. >< (new)

Sella Malin | 4530 comments Mod
Cool :D


message 44: by Amy (new)

Amy (kelairyy) | 137 comments Usually I find beginnings hard too. You could start writing at the climax, which is usually really exciting so it would be easier to write in most cases. Since everyone was talking about Twilight, I believe Stephenie Meyer first started writing the chapter where Edward takes Bella to the meadow which was right in the middle-ish of the story.

I thought Twilight was really good in the beginning, before there was so much hype about it. It's good for a typical romance. I used to like Edward so much, but now I think he's a bit too serious for my liking. And Jacob... don't even get me started on him. Ugh. I liked the movie just because it was seeing the book in action, and the plot was pretty unique (sorta.. better in the later books) so it wasn't easy to imagine in my head... thus the movie. :) However, I don't think the actors were that great.


message 45: by [deleted user] (new)

Thank you, Amy you helped me a lot. :)


message 46: by Brigid ✩ (new)

Brigid ✩ | 5857 comments Mod
i can't write from the climax ... idk why. it's just impossible for me. lol


message 47: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
I'm one of the weirdos that actually writes in order. :) I can't really write out of order very well... I think it's just how my brain works...


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

Lol, I like writing out of order. Because if I have this super awesome Idea that I want to put into one of my stories, I write it down, and love it to death! Which is another reason why I have 3 books in a trilogy of mine already planned out. :D


message 49: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
Wait a sec, I remeber that I DID write out of order at the end of Roses for June. See, I did outlines for a few chapters because the scenes were stuck in my head. So I actually wrote part of a scene for a few of those last few chapters, just because at that time, I had the words.


message 50: by [deleted user] (new)

lol


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