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message 1: by Paola (new)

Paola Gutierrez CONTAINS SPOILERS!

Okay, so like almost everybody else, I think that this series needs to end once and for all. Not only does the plot get more confusing, the girls get even more stupid instead of the other way around. You'd think after all the events with Mona and Real Ali, they'd make wiser decisions. But, alas, no.

However, I can't help but be intrigued on the identity of new A. Although it would be difficult to top Real Ali's crimes and vindictiveness from the previous books, it seems like new A has no problem killing off people as well.

Who do you think new A is? Of course, there's the usual suspects with suspect #1 being Real Ali, who possibly didn't die in the Poconos fire and was friends with dead girl Tabitha. The plot twist concerning Tabitha's death also makes Ali seem like a possibility. After all, Ali and Tabitha were friends. She'd have motive. But then, what's with the blunt-force trauma to the head? I wouldn't be surprised if Ali killed her friend. I mean, after all, she did kill her twin sister.

However, I have the strange feeling that it's not Real Ali who's A this time. Yes, I do believe she's still alive, but I doubt she's still after the girls after the whole Poconos thing, even if she was out for revenge in the first place. That would be stupid to go after them a second time, what with everybody knowing about the fire and the murders she'd committed. Maybe she's involved somehow, helping, or could be one of a team of A's. The team of A's is possible, but keeping it a secret would be hard. I mean, rumors and gossip do spread in Rosewood fast, but secrets are also held on to tightly.

Anyway, let's cut to the chase. My suspect list for possible A's:
- Jeremy from the cruise ship. He was really weird to me, and was somehow usually around when something happened to the girls. He'd also most likely have access to the rooms and would be able to get to the girls fast to pop their life raft. It still doesn't explain, though, the weird girly laughter or the flashes of blond hair or any of the quick A getaways. And I don't know how he can be connected to Madison or Tabitha or the girls' secrets.
- Noel or Mike - After all, they were on the Jamaica trip with the PLLs. One of them could have easily witnessed what happened to Tabitha, and could have easily finished Tabitha off, what with their athletic ability (and besides, Tabitha would have been rather incapacitated after the fall). It doesn't explain motive as to why they would stalk and torture their respective friends/girlfriends/sister in Mike's case. And I don't know they can be connected to Madison or Gayle or anything else except the Iceland thing.

And practically everyone else at Rosewood Day (except for Kate and those not on the cruise) on the cruise, and students not at Rosewood, could be possible suspects. Staff, included.

So what do you guys think? Who's on your A suspect list?


Gabby I think Sara Shepard is just going to pick whoever you suspect the least.....So maybe Noel or Mike.


Yuki I really agree with the Jeremy idea, because when I was reading it something about his personality just struck me as fishy, because Sara usually emphasizes important people's personalities more than just people in the background.
However, I don't really agree with the Mike or Noel possibility. It doesn't make any sense, no offense. I see no real motive for them being A, except maybe the Iceland thing but we don't know what that is about. What would their motives be, honestly? It seems more likely that it would be someone more connected to them...someone who was mentioned maybe in the 8th or 9th book, but then brushed away. I'm pretty sure it's not just 1 person, that it's a team. In addition, I'm still hanging on to the Real Ali hypothesis just like Emily lol.
It could go both ways with that idea, though. The emphasis on Emily leaving the door open after the Poconos fiasco could just be a trick trying to get the reader to THINK that Real Ali is A. However, it could be that Real Ali is actually A, and that Emily's idea is right.


message 4: by Paola (new)

Paola Gutierrez Ok, so Real Ali seems to be a likely suspect, which is the popular opinion. However, like Yuki said, if A is Real Ali, I don't think she's working alone. It seems like too big a job to pull off alone, but then again, Real Ali defies expectation. Besides, nobody's looking for Real Ali because everyone believes she died in the Poconos fire, so it wouldn't be too difficult to blend in with the crowd and do everything that's been done.

It's true that Mike and Noel don't have much of a motive to start with. But who knows? Everything isn't as it seems...especially in Rosewood. And more specifically, not everyone is what people make them out to be, and people are more deceiving than one can imagine. I'm holding on to Mike and Noel, for now. They've been the consistent ones in the four girls' group since the 8th book - they're the closest to the group without actually being involved with the PLLs and their new A. Hopefully the next book will take Mike and Noel off my suspect list because I don't want either of them to be new A.


Amanda I definitely think Jeremy has something to do with everything regardless of whether he is A or not. For one he is most definitely the guy that was seen on the camera where the explosion was with the guy that Aria had been hanging out with (cant remember his name). Shepard seemed to mention an awful lot about him for someone that isn't a main character. I don;t think it'll be Noel or Mike. I agree that these books are way past their sell by date but I still can't stop reading them!


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Nicole I really think that this time it's a guy.
And I also really think that the series just needs to end. I mean this all happened in, what, a year? Why are they all in a mental institute?


Yuki if it was a guy, what would be his motive?


em (lattereads) Yuki wrote: "if it was a guy, what would be his motive?"

Well, I think I know who it is, and it's a guy, but he's in Ali's Pretty Little Lies.


Yuki The Half-Blood wrote: "Yuki wrote: "if it was a guy, what would be his motive?"

Well, I think I know who it is, and it's a guy, but he's in Ali's Pretty Little Lies."


Aah thank you so much for not spoiling it!


message 10: by Luna (new) - rated it 4 stars

Luna Well I read a little of Ali's little lies- But I still think it's real Ali, but I maybe wrong


Stace I just got around to reading Burned and I did think there was something a little creepy about Jeremy. He always seemed to be lurking in the background. Real A would be almost too convenient. I just started reading Alis's Pretty Little Lies so I'll see what I think when I finish that one.


Mkittysamom I still think it's Ali, and i agree with the team theory especially since there are more characters from the nut house..like Iris. I am also suspicious of Melissa and Jason as who was there the night Ali was killed. I think Melissa knew How screwed up her half sisters were and was trying to protect Spencer.
I read Ali's little lies too but some of the story just didn't add up right with the stories we have been reading about the girls..mistakes or clues? I want some girl power and a whole book dedicated to kicking A's butt although I think the girls torture themselves by keeping secrets that don't need to be hidden in the first place. Aria was right on by saying if they told the truth...A wouldn't have anything on them.. A would be flushed out.


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