Linguistics Discussion 2013 and Beyond discussion

It wouldn't be a proper group without an introduction. I'm leaving one here naturally. More posts and topics will no doubt spring up shortly. One important thing is that this should be a group where everyone can basically moderate and put in their own topics. So go for it, go wild if you want.

This is great! I didn't think there would be one on linguistics. It's one of my interests. Thank you, Jonathan, for the invite. I have a feeling that I'll be seeing some of the same crowd, so I won't go on with introducing myself. Just an ALOHA!

You can blame spenke for this one with his talk of Derida and Chomsky.

I don't mind poking around linguistics. Maybe someone could start with authors and their made up words (or readers and their made up words for that matter).

Thanks for the invite. I'm interested in linguistics, so I liked the idea. I'm not a specialist, and don't know how much I can contribute, but I start joining, and the rest will come :)

Jonathan wrote: "You can blame spenke for this one with his talk of Derida and Chomsky."

I think it's fair to blame spenke for anything. And why, perhaps even everything!

Well now yes. Invited thanked!

So and between Derrida and Chomsky, as the two signifiers of bodies of works which I have thus far detected, I can assume that absolutely anything and everything goes in this group? Is it perhaps not the case, could we not in some way suggest that the only thing the two have in common is that they have each learned the other's native language, are both of Jewish extraction, and both speak far more languages and are far and away the two smartest people who have recently walked the earth? Could we not say this, and then wonder at the two being included within the parameters of a common set of questions?

Penki, I'll assume, will have a writing and difference folder operating sometime in the near term?

Damn, Mr. Puma, you got there first. It's almost like I just glaze over your comments as if they don't matter, huh?

Ooh, nice nice nice! Thanks for the invite, and congrats on the creation of this group, Jonathan!

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Well now yes. Invited thanked!

So and between Derrida and Chomsky, as the two signifiers of bodies of works which I have thus far detected, I can assume that absolutely anything and everything go..."

Has Writing and Difference not had the group treatment yet? Then this is a good place to do it, hm?

In fact, since we are allowed to?,(Johnathan said so;-- or did i not understand correctly?) maybe i'll start a thread "on difference" as it is approached by various linguists/language philosophers?

Traveller wrote: "Has Writing and Difference not had the group treatment yet? Then this is a good place to do it, hm?"

One of penki's orginal impulses behind this group. You got a copy?

maybe i'll start a thread "on difference" as it is approached by various linguists/language philosophers?

That would be the ground element of the Saussurean linguists and the subsequent structuralist and post-structuralist thought. And central to Mr Deleuze: Difference and Repetition. Heady heady stuff.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "That would be the ground element of the Saussurean linguists and the subsequent structuralist and post-structuralist thought. And central to Mr Deleuze: Difference and Repetition. Heady heady stuff.
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I have a lot of Deleuze's work. This is a good excuse to start hitting it, in addition to the fact that the Proust group has him as an auxiliary read.

How about Douglas R. Hofstadter? He's interested in language translations, symbols, speaks multiple languages, and even does math and computer speak.

Jason wrote: "Jonathan wrote: "You can blame spenke for this one with his talk of Derida and Chomsky."

I think it's fair to blame spenke for anything. And why, perhaps even everything!"

I personally blame MJ for everything, especially since he dropped Proust. In fact, one of the reasons I undeleted my FB profile is so I can torture him with double the Proust updates.

Thanks for the invite, Jonathan. (In response to what you said in your invite--yes, I do dislike invites in general, but if they're sent by someone who I regularly interact with as I do with you, then I'm cool with it. So no worries!)

This group was an awesome idea. Looking forward to discussion everyone! Ciao! (for now)

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "That would be the ground element of the Saussurean linguists and the subsequent structuralist and post-structuralist thought. And central to Mr Deleuze: Difference and Repetition. Heady heady stuff.
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Yup, all on the menu for this year. Though, of course, i might want to try and circumnavigate as best i can around Mr Deleuze...

Aloha wrote: "I have a lot of Deleuze's work. This is a good excuse to start hitting it, in addition to the fact that the Proust group has him as an auxiliary read. .."

..but have you ever tried to read him? I did, and i didn't get far. Not because he is difficult to comprehend, but bc he is sooo.. so so ANNOYING!!! And kinda rude as well.

Traveller wrote: "..but have you ever tried to read him? I did, and i didn't get far. Not because he is difficult to comprehend, but bc he is sooo.. so so ANNOYING!!! And kinda rude as well.
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I haven't read any of his work. I'm going to start with his Proust and Signs: The Complete Text. All philosophers are annoying at some point. Doctor, heal thyself.

Aloha wrote: "Doctor, heal thyself. "

Maybe the first thing this group should do is dispel this accusation once thrown against Jesus.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Aloha wrote: "Doctor, heal thyself. "

Maybe the first thing this group should do is dispel this accusation once thrown against Jesus."

Okay, we're ALL annoying at some point. It cancels out.

Ok, well, you go ahead, Aloha, and let us know what you think. I shall wash my hands... XD

I'm interested in cognition and language development. I'll have to organize material on that and create a section. I have a lot of materials.

Traveller wrote: "Ok, well, you go ahead, Aloha, and let us know what you think. I shall wash my hands... XD"

Sure, you help me get into trouble. You open my mouth and let me put my foot in it. I mean, this is a philosopher's haven. Time to arm myself with some...madeleines. Better yet, I'll distract them with Women and Men while I run away. Looky at the pretty BIG and COMPLEX book.....

I made a mistake in putting the topic in the wrong place. I don't know whether I can edit. I meant it as a folder to put my favorite cognitive scientists under.

I was so very confused when I got this invitation because I had just been thinking about how I was going to study Latin in a little bit and then I saw the invite and I had one of those moments of, "How does the internet know what my plans are for the day?" And then I realized what it was and I said, "Oh der." I probably won't be able to contribute much but I shall attempt to do so.

I think only the mod. can edit. Jonathan, would you make that a folder? Thank you.

Erin wrote: "I was so very confused when I got this invitation because I had just been thinking about how I was going to study Latin in a little bit and then I saw the invite and I had one of those moments of, ..."

That's an absolutely brilliant turn of events. Go internet.

Erin wrote: "I was so very confused when I got this invitation because I had just been thinking about how I was going to study Latin in a little bit and then I saw the invite and I had one of those moments of, ..."

Latin? Ha, good luck to you on that as well. Oh gosh, those conjugations...

How ya doin' Aubrey? Long time no see..

Well, this should be an interesting group. Here's to having a well-articulated good time!

Aubrey wrote: "That's an absolutely brilliant turn of events. Go internet. "

Agreed :)

Traveller wrote: "Latin? Ha, good luck to you on that as well. Oh gosh, those conjugations..."

:) I'm really hoping that it won't be too hard for me since I can speak Spanish. Though I really just have no idea. I haven't gotten that far yet. Present tense seems to be quite easy so far.

I was actually quite pleased to get an invitation to this group, and was especially happy it came from you, Johnathan. He's a nice guy. Also, all my reading last year reinforced a lot of things I was studying when I was in college, and linguistics was one of them. It was my ge emphasis at sf state. Finally a place to profess my love of The Pleasure of the Text!

I have so many suggestions for books starting with the one I paraphrased up there. Also been meaning to find a way to work in Edward Said somehow and this group might be one way

Traveller wrote: "How ya doin' Aubrey? Long time no see.."

I am doing well. I look forward to discussions with you concerning this subject, as I have more fascination than experience with the matter.
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Just a quick "hello". I'm not really a linguist, but I'm an enthusiastic amateur in discussions of language and usage etc. I look forward to lively and enlightening times in this group.

I was thinking of starting a topic about linguistics-related websites, but I wasn't sure which folder to put it in, and then I thought it might be better as a folder, so that there could be separate topics for, for example, dictionaries, blogs, usage guides and so on. However, I think only admins can create folders.

Cecily wrote: "However, I think only admins can create folders. "

I realized that when I tried to make a folder and ended up with a thread.

Alright I'll go and make the folders! I think I should also bestow mod powers on others.

Done, folders are up, moderator powers have been granted to those who wished to make folders earlier!

LMAO! I'm having a moderating power yo-yo today. Power is taken away in one second and given the next second. Thanks, Jonathan.

Aloha wrote: "LMAO! I'm having a moderating power yo-yo today. Power is taken away in one second and given the next second. Thanks, Jonathan."

It is all about balance hahaha

Hi all. Thanks for the invite Jonathan. I'm not a linguist either, but I took a linguistics class last quarter and found it quite fascinating. I look forward to learning more.

I always blame Jay Rubin for everything, but I'm mostly in denial about my own evils. Great group, I'm excited. I've declared 2013 the year I learned linguistics!

s.penkevich wrote: "I always blame Jay Rubin for everything, but I'm mostly in denial about my own evils. Great group, I'm excited. I've declared 2013 the year I learned linguistics!"

Be sure to let us all know what's going on with the new theories you uncover :D

Thanks for the invitation, Jonathan. I don't have time to do much on goodreads anymore, but I look forward to reading the group's discussions and maybe throwing in an incredibly dumb comment from time to time.

Mike wrote: "Thanks for the invitation, Jonathan. I don't have time to do much on goodreads anymore, but I look forward to reading the group's discussions and maybe throwing in an incredibly dumb comment from t..."

Ah most of us, with the exception of Nathan I'm sure, are still trying to uncover the brilliance of language. Any comments are welcome.

Mike wrote: "...and maybe throwing in an incredibly dumb comment from time to time."

Haha. I feel the same sometimes. When I go back and look at my comments, they're so stupid I feel tempted to delete all of them...

Jocelyn wrote: "Mike wrote: "...and maybe throwing in an incredibly dumb comment from time to time."

Haha. I feel the same sometimes. When I go back and look at my comments, they're so stupid I feel tempted to de..."

I thought that only happened to me! Dagnabbit, I think it just happened...

Kyle wrote: "I thought that only happened to me! Dagnabbit, I think it just happened..."

Yay, we're not alone! We all write stupid comments! ;D Awesome, everyone.

s.penkevich wrote: "I always blame Jay Rubin for everything, but I'm mostly in denial about my own evils. Great group, I'm excited. I've declared 2013 the year I learned linguistics!"

It's great that this group was formed because this year was to be the year I learn about the structure of poetry. This will make me stop procrastinating about it.

Would poetry fall under literature or should it have its own folder?

Aloha wrote: "Would poetry fall under literature or should it have its own folder?"

Literature I presume!