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Absolute nitwittery. At what point do people like this stop and think, hey I'm not even making sense to myself? Because they passed that point for me ages and ages ago with argument number one.



the institution of marriage arose in large measure in response to the unique social difficulty that opposite-sex couples, but not same-se..."
That's exactly correct and why priests are not allowed to marry. Their wife and kids could not inherit property because it all belonged to the church. That never kept priests from having kids. They did but they didn't have rights to anything. How convenient for the church to make up that rule.

Sen. Rob Portman, for many years a staunch supporter of DOMA, now backs gay marriage because his son came out.

What advocates for same-sex marriage should be asked is whether they consider any other human relationship worthy of similar constitutional protection and based on what standard? The Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to marry. States, not the federal government, issue marriage licenses. Current laws restrict "underage" marriage, as well as polygamy. If same-sex marriage is approved, what's to stop polygamists from demanding legal protection and cultural acceptance?
We have an interesting sitch in Illinois where the head of the Illinois GOP (who is actually quite conservative) came out in favor of gay marriage. Then a slight rift developed because the more conservative faction of the GOP planned to vote him out of the leadership. They abandoned this plan when they found out they didn't have the votes to oust him. Even former Illinois governor Jim Edgar, a Republican who is a born again Christian and constantly reading the Bible (I have heard this from people who know him well), supports gay marriage in Illinois. He is actually personally opposed to it, but he thinks the GOP needs to get behind it because they will never get the younger voters if they don't. Gay marriage might be coming up for a vote in the Illinois Senate but in spite of the GOP favoring it, it's unclear whether it will have the votes to pass.
Phil wrote: "If same-sex marriage is approved, what's to stop polygamists from demanding legal protection and cultural acceptance? "
Nothing's to stop them, but it's not like it matters. They can demand it all they want, it ain't going to gain public or legal sanction. So the whole notion that we shouldn't do something because if we do, other people will demand other things is beside the point.
Although truthfully I am worried that horses and cows will now demand to be married. And if that happens, holy hell. Think of the genetic horse-cow combinations that will result, and the expenses associated with purchasing wedding gifts. Really we should shut down marriage altogether, for anyone, because weddings gifts are too fucking costly.
Nothing's to stop them, but it's not like it matters. They can demand it all they want, it ain't going to gain public or legal sanction. So the whole notion that we shouldn't do something because if we do, other people will demand other things is beside the point.
Although truthfully I am worried that horses and cows will now demand to be married. And if that happens, holy hell. Think of the genetic horse-cow combinations that will result, and the expenses associated with purchasing wedding gifts. Really we should shut down marriage altogether, for anyone, because weddings gifts are too fucking costly.
Phil wrote: "This looks like a good place to put this...
Sen. Rob Portman, for many years a staunch supporter of DOMA, now backs gay marriage because his son came out."
Once again, showing that Repubs only give a shit if an issue affects them personally.
Sen. Rob Portman, for many years a staunch supporter of DOMA, now backs gay marriage because his son came out."
Once again, showing that Repubs only give a shit if an issue affects them personally.
Also: "Mr. Portman was a sponsor of the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act that is now being reviewed by the Supreme Court. He says now that states should be allowed to decide whether to allow same-sex marriage based on the will of voters."
So if his gay son lived in a state that refused to make gay marriage legal, oh well. Sucks to be him, if he wanted to get married.
So if his gay son lived in a state that refused to make gay marriage legal, oh well. Sucks to be him, if he wanted to get married.
"Marriage should be limited to unions of a man and a woman because they alone can "produce unplanned and unintended offspring," opponents of gay marriage have told the Supreme Court.
By contrast, when same-sex couples decide to have children, "substantial advance planning is required," said Paul D. Clement, a lawyer for House Republicans."