Space Opera Fans discussion

Hello all my name is Lauro and I find myself in here because of common interest of Space Opera books and I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on a on some new reading Material.

As of 2 week ago I got a new job and a friend encourage me to "Listen" to some book while working (programmer) and since my love is Science fiction I got an Audiobook and this was The Lost Fleet: Dauntless By Jack Campbell
And to my surprise I REALLY Love it and I got all 11 book (for now I’m skipping the "Spin-off”)
But sorry to formulate my question plain and simple for someone/anyone with more experience than me


Could anyone Recommend me a book or books "similar" to this one? The Lost Fleet: Dauntless By Jack Campbell Dauntless


With the word "similar" meaning Long books/saga with a touch of science fiction-military style (the military style is optional) and a Good character development.

On a Personal Note keep in mind I’m kinda "new” to reading/listening books from any genre, but since wanted to start with something I like I choose Science Fiction “Space Operas”
And I want to say with 99% certainty that The Lost Fleet saga and The Lost Fleet:Beyond The Frontier saga were my "1st" books to really love to read/LISTEN and I love them. (Sorry was just mentioning this to give a general idea.)


Thank you and have good day.
To the honor of our ancestors, Lauro Out

The Expanse series by James S.A. Corey.

Old Man's War series by John Scalzi.

Orphanage by Robert Buettner. I've only read one of that series.

The Odyssey One series is very much in the same military science fiction vein, like the Lost Fleet.

Wow, listening while programming.

Anyway, the Vorkosigan Saga is one of the most acclaimed space opera series.

Lost Fleet is my favorite series and I'm to listen at work
and similar series what i like are
Man of War series (3rd book coming this end of month)
Odyssey One series
Frontlines series
Starship series

Packi wrote: "Wow, listening while programming.

Anyway, the Vorkosigan Saga is one of the most acclaimed space opera series."

Its Basic Programing nothing major that would Distract me :) ( C, C# ,PHP, and ocassional Tech Support)

And Thanks for the recommendations I will keep them in Mind, I think I will Continue with Odyssey One series OR Frontlines series, Since those 2 were alredy and on My WatchList.

Also Feel Free to Keep Commenting maybe this will help other new/novices make some good choices if they are are interested in the genre.

There are lots of great Space Opera books out there with a military twist, but unfortunately a lot of them don't have an audiobook edition (yet). You've got some great series recommended above to keep you busy for a while :-)

Rion wrote: " The Odyssey One series is very much in the same military science fiction vein, like the Lost Fleet."


Hey Rion Thanks a LOT i'm Barely on Chapter 10 and i'm really enjoying it , and if I may put a minor Spoiler i do like the added bonus that this is a humanity "starting" on DeepSpace

8 replies and nobody brought up the Honor Harrington series.

On Basilisk Station

Aaron wrote: "8 replies and nobody brought up the Honor Harrington series.

On Basilisk Station"

Never read them. I'm gonna see if the library has the first one next time I'm there.

Never read them. I'm gonna see if the library has the first one next time I'm there.

The first two are free on Amazon (and other bookstores) in e-book.

http://amzn.com/B00ARPJBS0
http://amzn.com/B00BBI9WD6

This is also a fun ship based military sci-fi.

Conal wrote: "Never read them. I'm gonna see if the library has the first one next time I'm there.

The first two are free on Amazon (and other bookstores) in e-book.

http://amzn.com/B00ARPJBS0
http://amzn.com/..."

Which is good because the first book is a bit different from the rest of the series.

They're available from Baens own website in actually useful formats as well, not just the horribly bloaty and restrictive kindle format

Christian wrote: "They're available from Baens own website in actually useful formats as well, not just the horribly bloaty and restrictive kindle format"

Downloaded both epubs.

Packi wrote: "Wow, listening while programming.

Anyway, the Vorkosigan Saga is one of the most acclaimed space opera series."

Love that series -- lots of tongue-in-cheek humor in that one to add some lightness to it also.

Hello all , I was wondering something and to not make another topic , here is the question.

Are David Weber Off Armageddon Reef SAFEHOLD books/saga counts as "Military" Space Opera? because im wondering why did no one mention it.

I would say it is -not- 'military' sci-fi because the military portion really doesn't come to the forefront until later books, and then when it does it is mostly more primitive human technology, such as knowledge of gunpowder and ship-building. There -are- some great battle scenes between navies in the later books, but they're not spaceships. But for the fact of the Nimue-memoried android with his/her spaceship, it's like otherwise stepping back into an alternative history novel. I -did- enjoy the series very much, but I'm a hybrid sci-fi/fantasy fan :-)

Anna wrote: "I would say it is -not- 'military' sci-fi because the military portion really doesn't come to the forefront until later books, and then when it does it is mostly more primitive human technology, su..."

Thanks and yes i already finish all the safehold book im just waiting for the new one to come out hehe

Conal wrote: "This is also a fun ship based military sci-fi.

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This will be my next books :) as soon as i finish Brothers in Valor

That one sounds interesting :-) Haven't read it yet.

Lauro wrote: "This will be my next books :) as soon as i finish Brothers in Valor "

The opening battle in that book was fantastic.

Lauro wrote: "Hello all , I was wondering something and to not make another topic , here is the question.

Are David Weber Off Armageddon Reef SAFEHOLD books/saga counts as "Military" Space Opera?..."

While that may be what it technically is. Trope wise it much more closely resembles an empire building portal fantasy.

Hey Guys Im going to kidnap my post again and ask 3 question could someone help me if possible ?

1.- Could someone tell me in this site if there is a section to ask ¨general questions¨ ?

2.- Anyone know around how long does a book takes to come from paper to audiobook? (if its possible to tell if not i will just wait.. since with this book The Lost Destroyer I listen to part one and two and I guess I will just read it in the kindle or wait for the audio book)

3.- This is an Book Recomendation with all the books i have just in this post im wondering if anyone Plays XCom:UFo Defense , and if you do anyone know if there is abook about ? or similar to it ? i kinda know that a similar book would be most Military Science Fiction books but a close up on that game (researching the technology on the spot and getting new tactics and advantages against a treat ) would be awesome.

Sorry for engrish i try putting a good gramar but im from Mexico.

In answer to your first question:

Do you mean general questions about how Goodreads works? There is a group called Feedback:

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/...

You need to join that group. Then there is a discussion folder for Suggestions and Questions where you can post questions. However, you might want to scan the threads that are already there because someone else may have already asked the questions you're interested in.

There are also help files which might have the information you need. Click the dropdown arrow next to your avatar at the top right. The link to Help is on there.

2 - that is different with every book sometimes is the same date sometimes we need to wait long time
for Lost Starship Series Book 1 was 3 months
for Lost Starship Series Book 2 was 6 months
you can look up on amazon Publication Date for kindle paperback and audio

Krzysztof wrote: "2 - that is different with every book sometimes is the same date sometimes we need to wait long time
for Lost Starship Series Book 1 was 3 months
for Lost Starship Series Book 2 was 6 months
you ca..."

:( im a sad panda but thank you for the info

Anyone has a good answer for question 3 ?

Lauro wrote: "Hey Guys Im going to kidnap my post again and ask 3 question could someone help me if possible ?

1.- Could someone tell me in this site if there is a section to ask ¨general questions¨ ?

2.- Anyo..."

Not all books come out in audiobook format. So you may end up waiting forever.

I've never played X-Com but here's a book about it:

Packi wrote: "Wow, listening while programming.

Anyway, the Vorkosigan Saga is one of the most acclaimed space opera series."


Shards of Honour
Hey Thanks Packi, i really enjoy the 1st book

Hi Lauro!

Audiobook format is WICKED expensive to produce, especially now that Amazon gutted out the royalty rates that authors used to split with the audiobook narrator. If your favorite series was caught in that messy crossfire, the author may be questioning whether it is cost-productive to bring that book out in audiobook.

Your best bet is to write the author directly and tell him you hope he/she does an audiobook for the newer books. If they know they have BUYERS for that book to at least break even, it will tip things in favor of biting the bullet and making the investment even if it takes a long time to earn back the initial investment.

Hope this helps? Write the author. Really. They love to hear stuff like that from fans.

Anna wrote: "Hi Lauro!

Audiobook format is WICKED expensive to produce, especially now that Amazon gutted out the royalty rates that authors used to split with the audiobook narrator. If your favorite series ..."

Thanks a lot Anna , I guess book authors are a different lot I might do that and yes even I know that Reading sometimes its better than listening but for some people sometimes its more practical to listen to the book :), but i guess/hope that in the coming Ages hopefully it will be easyer to produce a audiobook than it was before.

Some suggestions that I think might fit the bill and no one else seems to have mentioned. Probably because this is all older stuff (when you hit 60 you have seen a lot of stuff come and go)
1. Bertram Chandler wrote a lengthy series concerning one John Grimes. Here is a link to the Wikipedia entry on Chandler which lists all the books in the series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Bert...
2. Poul Anderson wrote a series featuring on Dominic Flandry. Here is a link to the Wikipedia entry on Flandry himself (and if you enjoy those try the Nicholas Von Ryn/Polesotechnic League which occur in the same universe but in an earlier period)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic...
There are a couple more in the back of my mind but I can't bring them forward at this time.

John wrote: "Some suggestions that I think might fit the bill and no one else seems to have mentioned. Probably because this is all older stuff (when you hit 60 you have seen a lot of stuff come and go)
1. Bert..."

I will wait for your memory to comeback for more in the meantime thanks a lot.

If you enjoy military oriented SF try David Drake's "Hammer's Slammers" series and Gordon R. Dickson's "Dorsai" series. (hmm. That reminds me of an interesting story about Dickson, must relate it sometime).

The Stars at War - David Weber

March Upcountry - David Weber

Heirs of Empire - David Weber

The Last Legion - Chris Bunch

V.W. wrote: "The Stars at War - David Weber

March Upcountry - David Weber

Heirs of Empire - David Weber

The Last Legion - Chris Bunch"

Thanks i really love david weber books, im reading Honor Harrington and Safehold books
I will also give it a look to the other books

One more suggestion for you. Gordon R. Dickson wrote a series of books regarding The Dorsai. They are a planet that specializes in mercenaries. In fact they are the best. There is another planetary group (the fanatically religious Friendlies) that also provides mercenaries, but the saying in the series is "if you want canon fodder get the Friendlies, if you want the best bet The Dorsai" (the quote may be paraphrased a bit)

John wrote: "One more suggestion for you. Gordon R. Dickson wrote a series of books regarding The Dorsai. They are a planet that specializes in mercenaries. In fact they are the best. There is another planetary..."

I particularly like Tactics of Mistake.

V.W. wrote: "John wrote: "One more suggestion for you. Gordon R. Dickson wrote a series of books regarding The Dorsai. They are a planet that specializes in mercenaries. In fact they are the best. There is anot..."

Tactics of Mistake is really good but I was always partial to Soldier, Ask Not

Here is a link to the entire Childe Cycle Wikipedia entry. It lists all the books and I think may provide a reading order
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childe_...

One thing Dickson originally intended the Dorsai books to be part of a larger work that would be comprised of three trilogies, one with an historical setting, one contemporary and one science fiction. Not sure any of the first two got written and the SF trilogy obviously got expanded.

Reading in published order seemed to work for me. I would recommend.

Dorsai (self contained)
Tactics of Mistake (self contained and about ancestors of the MC in Dorsai)
Soldier, Ask Not (self contained and in the same time frame as Dorsai)
Necromancer (self contained but related to Dorsai)
Final Encyclopedia (related to Dorsai)
Chantry Guild (direct continuation of Final Encyclopedia)
*** This cycle of books in uncompleted as the final book was never written ***

There is also a trilogy of books about the antagonist in the Final Encyclopedia
Young Bleys (early life of Bleys Ahrens)
Other (direct continuation of Young Bleys)
Antagonist (finished by Gordon Dickson's assistant and not very good, continuation of the Bleys Ahrens story line)

There are also several short story collections which tell additional stories in this universe

Let me finish some books 1st, to many suggestions , but thanks to all they are all appreciated.

Keep them Coming :)

Lauro wrote: "And to my surprise I REALLY Love it and I got all 11 book (for now I’m skipping the "Spin-off”) "

Dude (sorry I have to dude you here), but the politics, flawed characters and moral dilemmas make the Lost Stars spin off twice as good as later books on the Lost Fleet.

Lost Fleet is one of my absolute favorites, but frankly it gets quite repetitive in the long run (get sent on a long expedition, fight some battles, meet some boring aliens, try to get home, zero character development because the main character is so perfect and morally upright).

It's basically Xenophons march now repeated what, three times? (I've only read the first two books in Beyond the frontier, and somehow it just feels like tame backstory while waiting for new books in the Lost Stars spin-off)

Niels wrote: "Lauro wrote: "And to my surprise I REALLY Love it and I got all 11 book (for now I’m skipping the "Spin-off”) "

Dude (sorry I have to dude you here), but the politics, flawed characters and moral ..."

Niels that was 4 months ago -_- and besides for being one of the 1st i ever read/listen they are good for me and they will always be engraved in my memory .
But now im really enjoying David Weber book as previusly mention .
Please keep on topic and post some good books for Novices like me instead.
Thanks and good luck

Lauro wrote: "Please keep on topic and post some good books for Novices like me instead."

You specifically said you were skipping the spin-offs in the first post, and Lost Stars isn't mentioned anywhere else in this thread.
So don't complain about the answer, if you're asking misleading questions -_-

How available do you want the suggestions to be. Some things I can suggest might not be in print these days but could be found in a decent used bookstore. As well I can think of some stuff you might like that would not be specifically space opera, though I have found that readers of space opera are usually open to other types of SF, something that cannot be said of others (New Wavers come to mind).

John wrote: "How available do you want the suggestions to be. Some things I can suggest might not be in print these days but could be found in a decent used bookstore. As well I can think of some stuff you migh..."

Keep in mind its not for me, but for all novices starting to read books and want some heads-up on some recomended books. But for me im just listening( audiobooks) because i usually listen to them at work.

Im also recomending a book wich is Forging Zero Forging Zero im also wondering why no one mention this book before :( i really like it. Currently reading it

Going to recommend some classic space opera which may or may not be in print

E.E. Smith: The Skylark series
E.E. Smith: The Lensman series (though you can give Masters of the Vortex a pass if you want)
John W. Campbell: The Mightiest Machine
Edmond Hamilton: The Legion of Space series

The Smith books are probably in print but not sure about the others. If not try a decent second-hand bookstore (one that doesn't stock just the latest releases)

Several of the Lensman and Skylark series are available free on Project Gutenburg. Did Edmond Hamilton also write a series called the Legion of Space or did you mean the one by Jack Williamson?