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My WIP is a vintage mystery with romantic elements, and I'm also working on a sequel to the light mystery.
Hi all! My name is Noah Fregger and I've recently published my first book, Gabriel's Watch - Book One: The Scrapman Trilogy. It's a lovely twist on the post-apoc and dystopian genre. Danielle mentioned earlier that she doesn't like YA or light and fluffy story lines. Well this book is anything but!
Can't wait for you guys and gals to get a peak at it. It's this humble author's opinion that you won't be able to put it down until you squeeze that last word from its final page, my friends.
Thanks so much for having me!
Can't wait for you guys and gals to get a peak at it. It's this humble author's opinion that you won't be able to put it down until you squeeze that last word from its final page, my friends.
Thanks so much for having me!

HelenChances & Choices

It's nice to meet you! :)

Nice t meet you too - perhaps we can swap. I also review for the Kindle Book Review. That requires a formal request through the website but that coul be done after an informal swap.
Helen

Nice t meet you too - perhaps we can swap. I also review for the Kindle Book Rev..."
Helen, just sent you a message. :)

Although I have written fiction, novels and short stories, my publishing success has been in non-fiction. Here's the bad news: my publications are books on statistical testing. However, they are designed for those who do not wish to read about mathematics. Essentially, the typical reader will be the social sciences student who has to carry out a research project, or a professional who needs to do some. The books are short and attempt to be amusing at times without losing the point.
One note of encouragement for those of you who are self-publishing. My first stats book was self-published and it led to my getting publishing contracts for the next two (one is still in press).
The other complication: Because of the Russian postal system, it is best only to send hard copies to me (and for me to send hard copies) during the summer and maybe near Christmas when I am likely to be at home. However, both parties can send drafts suitable for Kindle or computer, as long as we promise not to bang on about the formatting!

And congrats to you for getting publishing contracts! That is a major accomplishment.
By the way, we typically only exchange books through email as some type of electronic file so that won't be a problem.
It's nice to meet you! :)

Re. getting published: I would say that there are two points to consider (well, three, if one says that non-fiction is probably an easier number than fiction): Find the gap in the market. Polish your self-published book; publishers will judge you by it if they are at all open to considering anything.


Thanks! It is nice to be here.

Welcome...I am new too!

Coupon code for free download: EY66T
Link to book: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view...

Anyway, we're getting a new round going so I'll be signing up as well. Even if I don't get your book in this round, I'll try to get it in another (or just read and review it later on).
It's nice to meet you! :)
Danielle

Awesome! Please download it for free whenever you want! And let me know where to find your work so I can return the favor with a review.
Thanks!
John

You can also download my book for free through Smashwords. Here's the link: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/....
Thanks so much!


It's nice to meet you! :)
Danielle

In one sentence, who am I? An eccentrically entertaining neurotic bibliophile who sells collectibles, tries to have patience with my precocious daughter, fearlessly tries to do everything, and writes because I am driven to as part of my genetic composition.
My life goal (now that I finally figured it out): To become a philanthropreneur, combining writing with my love of non-profit work. I would like to produce children's books (and others if the market is right) and put part of the proceeds back into NFP organizations that are well-run and make a positive difference or have significant potential and need development assistance.
I serve as a volunteer and liaison for many organizations in my area, helping them share resources when possible and aid each other to become stronger and more effective in their missions.
My first book is a young adult novel, a sequel to The Secret Garden by Burnett. I would love reviews and can provide a digital file by e-mail or a hard copy.
I have several picture books in production, one we are just finishing the last details and should be releasing in a couple months.
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It's nice to meet you! :)

My WIP is a vintage mystery with romantic elements, and I'm also working on a sequel to the..."
Hi Cheryl, I'm new to GR groups and just making my way into the world of writing. What is WIP?
Marisa

My name is Danielle Tara Evans, and I live in the US near Philadelphia, PA. I published my first book,..."
Hi Danielle, What is dystopian? I'm probably going to annoy a few of you but bare with me. I'm new to all of this and still trying to learn the lingo.
M

WIP is work(s) in progress, and dystopian is anything the opposite of utopian - basically an imagined future or alternate society that is disturbing or undesirable. It is often associated with apocalyptic stories, although mine is not actually apocalyptic.
And no problem, you're not annoying - I'll be happy to help! :)


This is the cover on Amazon. (I have asked them to remove it, as it has been superceded, but they refuse to do so.)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Sta...
They were generally awful, finding excuses to try to gouge out more money during the publishing process, etc.

When I wanted to make revisions, I ended up republishing through Smashwords and KDP. Otherwise, it would have cost me hundreds of dollars through Authorhouse. (And I no longer feel the need for print copies.)

I assume since Cole's book was from the time before they were actually CreateSpace, there may be entirely different rules and procedures that apply there. Now, you can change your cover or interior content at will, much like you can with an ebook on Amazon itself. Since they're part of Amazon, everything links automatically to your book's page at Amazon. If you make a change, it takes them about 24 hours to process it. Once you submit a change, your book goes to 'out of print' status on Amazon and goes back to 'coming soon' status in the CreateSpace store, pending your re-approval of the new proof with the changes. Once you re-approve it, it goes back to 'available' on Amazon and the new cover will appear immediately. The 'look inside' feature will take a few days for it to catch up, and in the meantime will show the old interior content.
Now that I've covered how easy I found their system to be to work with, I have found some bad things too. Though their system is easy to deal with, their people are not. At one point during the setup process for my book, where an actual person is involved, they totally trashed my cover (after it had been fully setup by another person and approved by me, for no reason they could ever explain). Everything got moved so far down the page that the bottom of the image was off the bottom of the cover, my name on the spine was running off the bottom, there was about a 2 inch black gap at the top, and then because of all this movement of content the barcode covered words on the back cover. It was an absolute nightmare trying to get them to correct it, and I ultimately had to delete the entire cover and start the process over to get it fixed.
Beyond that, the quality of the final product can vary greatly. They use numerous printing facilities, and the quality clearly varies between them. Of the copies that I've personally obtained, some have been printed in Charleston, SC and some in Lexington, KY (I'm in the Southeast). The copies from the printer in Charleston have a weird cover where the cover content looks almost like an 'iron-on' or a sticker of some kind underneath the laminate. The inside pages are all cut very irregularly and sometimes the lines of text on opposing pages are almost a quarter of an inch off from each other. The ones printed in Lexington, however, are virtually flawless. None of the cover weirdness is present and every page is cut to line up almost perfectly. Unfortunately, though, I guess they dole out the work based on the load at each facility and you get no choice in which facility does the actual printing when you order copies.

That's a shame that you had so many issues with your cover (and the employees)! And how strange that the one printing facility does a great job while the other one is lousy! That was the one good thing about Authorhouse - they did a nice job with the cover, and the printed copies were high quality. I had no issues in that aspect. I just couldn't stand the constant phone calls; I ended up telling them I can't afford to do anything else. Please stop calling! And then anytime I saw their number on my phone, I just ignored it.
I think Smashwords is the best company to deal with, but they only do ebooks so I know it's not for everyone.

As far as Smashwords, I actually just pulled my book from them, leaving me only at Amazon right now for digital. I discovered last Friday that they've been distributing an old edit of my book since 5/10, and had even sent that old edit out to the various retailers, replacing the current edit. There was nothing to indicate to me this had happened until someone who got served up one of the old edits mentioned a formatting issue that I knew had been corrected. When I got a new copy myself and saw it and started asking questions at Smashwords, we were able to track it back to that date and they say their system apparently arbitrarily reconverted an old copy and put it in place of the current one. It affected most of the formats, and of course got the important ones - mobi and epub - but didn't replace the html or pdf versions. They've yet to figure out why it happened themselves, and say that to their knowledge this is the first time such a - as they're calling it - 'glitch' has ever occurred with their system.
I'm debating in my head right now whether I want to just stay with only Amazon and go ahead and enroll it in KDP Select or put it back up myself at the various retailers where Smashwords had placed it.

Sorry to hear about your issue with Smashwords - that is alarming, especially since you weren't even aware until someone pointed it out. There are certainly issues with every publishing company! How frustrating...
It might be a good idea to try out KDP select. I believe it only lasts for a short while, so why not give it a shot and see if you get any good results?
Good luck!

This is the cover on Amazon. (I have asked them to remove it, as it has been superceded, but they refuse to do so.)
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Sorry Cole, I meant an actual photo of what the printed books looks like. I should have been more clear. I'm pretty happy with my paperbacks from LuLu.com, but Createspace would save me $.
They said they would send me a sample but I need to pay for it. I decided to just stay with LuLu.com because I need to get my book edited by 7/27 for a book signing.
M

Hi D.A.,
Hmmm your post didn't make me want to use them LOL
I decided to stick with LuLu.com. I am very happy with their printing so far. Maybe it's just like everything else in life, you pay for better quality.
M

Hi Danielle,
You don't have to pay for revisions with LuLu.com either. The one REALLY big bummer, cause I'm sure all of you know how hard it is, is that you lose any reviews you had on their site.
M

That's not encouraging. I'm sorry that happened. I need to re-publish my first book, cause I've learned so much about writing and formatting over the past 10 months. So does this mean they will keep my old copy once I upload a new one? Any advice, besides dropping Smashwords.com?
M

They said they would send me a sample but I need to pay for it. I decided to just stay with LuLu.com because I need to get my book edited by 7/27 for a book signing.
I haven't a clue what you're on about. The cover is what it looks like, i.e. a heap of $hit. The inside wasn't that great either. I moved to Llumina. The final result was good, but I have to watch them like hawks for errors (although my book was quite complex, with images and tables).
Re Createspace: they may have changed their names, but I doubt if their overall attitude to their writers are any different.

Yes, Smashwords keeps a copy of all revisions. I don't exactly understand why. When someone has bought the book, if they return later to download another copy Smashwords gives them the option to download any edit from the one they purchased forward. If you upload a new copy now, anyone who buys it now will only get access to the new copy and any future edits. Someone who bought it before can get their original edit, the new edit and any future edits.
If you go to the download page and click the button to download, you should see a date (or multiple dates if you have multiple edits). You'll see their explanation there of what versions can go out to people who have bought it.
As I said, I don't fully understand their logic. As an author, I would never want any reader downloading a replacement/additional copy to be given any version other than the most current (which, presumably would be the best), no matter what version was current when they paid for it.


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My name is Danielle Tara Evans, and I live in the US near Philadelphia, PA. I published my first book, Escalators: A Novel, in June of 2012. I will be releasing a revised version through Smashwords and KDP soon though! And I currently have three other books in the works. I write both contemporary and dystopian.
I've been writing for almost as long as I can remember, and I'm an avid reader too! I love anything that is dark; I'm not a big fan of light and fluffy, and I don't read YA. I'm married with four furry children - two dogs and two cats. I have a full time job working as an office administrator for an insulation company. In addition to reading and writing, I'm also a movie buff.
Looking forward to getting to know more of you! :)