The House of Hades discussion

Not everybody will agree with me, but just to start this off, people should stop saying saying a lot of things. I think I am going to give you the Top 5 Most Annoying Things that most fans say, despite this is a great series.

5. I Hope He/She Doesn't Die!
My blog! Most of the fans make the biggest deal about this stuff. Like when Percy and Annabeth fell into Tartarus, I was really and that you guys cared about Annabeth. Why does everybody love Annabeth? Annabeth is probably my least favorite of all 7 Demigods. Also about Nico. Why does everybody care about Nico? He is a side character! He can die for all I care. Don't care about the side characters like Chiron, Nico, Frank, Hazel, Annabeth, Piper, et cetera. Care about the main characters, like Percy, Jason, and Leo, because he apparently developed a big role at the end of the third book.

4. Romans

If you didn't read Percy Jackson and the Olympians, then I can understand you. Why do some fans like Jason, Hazel, Frank, and Reyna more than the original Greeks? It's cruel betrayal. Romans are evil, and they should be tossed into Tartarus. The only good Roman is Jason. That's it.

3. Obviously Incorrect Predictions

You can kill me on this one. Some people make the most bazaar predictions that I have ever heard, and it never is true. Did those people even read the books? You guys know most of them.

2. POV/MOA/SON/TLH/PHO

Lazy is the word I call it. Or maybe it's just the 21st Century? I really hope it is the 21st Century, no offense to anybody born in that generation, you guys are actually pretty good. People from the 20th Century have no clue what you are talking about, and you expect us to figure it out!!!!!?????!!!!!!??!!????? I know plenty of this sounds stereotypical, and a little bias, but 21st Century uses stuff like that the most. Just directing it to the more larger group of the category. I really hope people can just write the book name down. I mean, I know plentiful other books series, but this is the only one where they use stuff like POV, and MOA.

1. Percabeth
Bloody, bloody hell all over this one. Combining names to make something sound cute, or annoying. Percabeth doesn't even sound good. I really hope fans will fix this stuff, and you guys will spread this discussion around, but I see many of you disagreeing with me.

I don't see why you have a problem with a lot of the things on here. First, why shouldn't people prefer the Romans over the Greeks? How do can you "betray" fictional characters? Why shouldn't some fans have like the Romans over the Greeks? The Romans are likable enough. And just because you don't care about side characters doesn't mean other people can't. Nico is likable to some fans, no one is making you like him (I fail to see how you think Leo is more of a major character than Annabeth, Hazel, Piper, and Frank.). And Percabeth is plenty cute, don't bash people for admiring their relationship. I understand you have an opinion, but just because it's your's doesn't make everyone else's wrong.

How can you hate annabeth?! She is one of the original characters that you can't betray..... In your own words. Just because you don't like a background character doesn't give you the right to say they can die. As for the roman "betrayal", i have to say that's ridiculous. You can like any character you want..... Just because their roman doesn't make them terrible characters. I am proud to say that I love nico and I love frank and hazel!

Wow, I just read what I wrote (I need to do that more often), I don't agree with some of things I said now, thanks to Jordan! I was very mad, and it was late at at night. I write bad stuff when I am tired. Looking at lots of House of Hades stuff made me sinister about what fans wrote.

I don't hate Annabeth, by the way, it's just that I don't really like her, and whenever it was her point of view I got bored. Only until the end of The Mark of Athena.

You gave no logical reasons why any of this should not be said. Everything you used in your reasoning was emotional bias and quite arrogant and pointless. Bazaar is not a word, it is spelled bizarre.

By the way, plenty of series uses abbreviations.
Harry Potter: SS GOF OOTP HBP DH
Star Wars: ROTJ ROTS ESB etc
A Song of Ice and Fire: ASOIAF ASOS AGOT AFFC ADWD
So does the world: NBA NFL GEICO

But I do agree the the whole combining names to indicate relationships is kind of silly, but everyone does it and it has kinda grown on me.

People hate Annabeth? Weird!

I cannot stand the obsession over Leo. I never found him that funny. Instead, I feel really sorry for Frank. I think he's an important character and he gets bullied a lot, not to mention Hazel kind of abandoned him after they just got together in the Son of Neptune.

I have absolutely no idea how Leo became popular, honestly

My only issue with him is that he makes a lot of obnoxious jokes. I don't necessarily hate him, but still...

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I personally don't understand why everyone loves Nico. He is just there not really doing anything to get my attention in both series. Oh well I did read this and the other series after The Lost Hero was released. Possibly why I LOVE LEO and think Piper is alright though in MoA she bored me. I don't understand the Piper hate! I predict what will happen based on quotes from the book not feelings which bothers me a lot when I read other predictions based PURELY on FEELINGS. It's like the book has definitely contradicted your prediction! Have you read it?

True, these characters are fictional, but if a book is well written, it's hard not to see the characters as real people and, like real people, sometimes they're hard not to judge!(not that judging others is always a good thing, it just happens naturally)

"Why does everybody love Annabeth? Annabeth is probably my least favorite of all 7 Demigods. Also about Nico. Why does everybody care about Nico? He is a side character! He can die for all I care. Don't care about the side characters like Chiron, Nico, Frank, Hazel, Annabeth, Piper, et cetera. Care about the main characters, like Percy, Jason, and Leo, because he apparently developed a big role at the end of the third book."

I hope this is a joke !
Why should we care about Percy , Jason or Leo ?
Jason has no personality and don't like him.
I mean , the main characters are (HOPEFULLY) not necessarily the characters people love the most.
Everyone has the right to feel close to a character , whether he is one of the main characters or not.
I am proud to say that my favourite character is Nico. (I feel empathy with him, because I see him as a person , not just a robot/zombie who is supposed to accomplish something)
I also like Hazel , Leo and Annabeth .
And I won't say Jason can die "for all I care" (but I could , since I really don't like him) ,not because he's important but because I respect every single character of this series.
I don't care about the role of the character , I care about the character himself and I thought everyone did ...

When I read any book, I begin to see the fictional characters as people, especially with the Percy Jackson and the Olympian series and the Heroes of Olympus series because when I stared reading the very first book, years ago, I could relate to the characters(in particular, the main character). I don't have a problem with other people liking characters that I don't. I've never found Leo on my favourite character list no matter how much I try to sympathise and Nico has never seemed altogether intriguing. This is without doubt because I have much less in common with them. I don't hate them per-say, but I don't really understand them as much as I'd like to. Individuality. I know there are a variety of characters that people have gotten to know and everyone should be aware that there is no wrong answer to: Who is your favourite character? because everyone is different.

I almost wish uncle rick continued on with the Percy and the Olympians series. I liked it A LOT BETTER. I only truely enjoyed mark of Athena. I have been a longtime fan of percybeth and cant get over how cute they are!!!! I didn't really like it when the Romans came in tho. Personally I am like top of the class in Greek mythology and really enjoyed the author taking chases wih he myths. The Romans just totally threw me off the bus. I hate how annabeth actually likes new Rome. Weren't they like huugmongo enimeies??? I also felt myself skimming through some of the pages on frank and leos presecptives. They just got boring for me. Overall though, I love the books and want more O_O

Gowan wrote: "When I read any book, I begin to see the fictional characters as people, especially with the Percy Jackson and the Olympian series and the Heroes of Olympus series because when I stared reading the..."
I would have to go with Percy. And It probably is because I am most like him. My dad kinda ditched me, I have this thing for water and have always loved it, and I'm not the smartest in my class. U made a good point on people relateing themselves to the characters. I am gonna try that next time again

I agree with number one more than anything. I HATE that.

Number five? Not so much. I have no idea how Nico and Leo became popular. I mean sure, Leo's a good laugh once and a while, but aside from building the ship, he isn't that big of a deal. Nico? Has there been enough action with Nico for anyone to REALLY like him? Annabeth I do like, however, because she is a kick-butt smart girl. However she is a bit moony over Percy, which I don't like. Nothing is really wrong with Piper but I prefer Jason or Percy...

Number four **cough cough** how are all Romans evil? Octavian, yes. The rest? Not so much. Reyna is trying to help the seven, for god's sake. She sure isn't evil.

Three. I agree. Totally. I mean, I heard one where someone said that all of the seven died in Tartarus. Say what?

Two. I use some of those because typing Mark of Athena over and over when writing these things gets annoying and people understand you when you write MOA.

I liked the idea, though.

Please leave HITLER out of this. That's a bit much.

Sorry. Writing an essay on that in History class. Was on my mind.

You want to talk annoying, here's what's annoying:

1) I hate/can't stand/find annoying (fill in character name here).
You're entitled to your opinion but, seriously, Why? I'm noticing that when fans complain about a fictional character it really boils down to the fan, not the character. You're not going to relate to every human being you ever meet, so why do you expect to relate to every fictional character that you read? That fact that you get some, but not all, of the characters in a story indicates that they are realistically written. And if you're finding you have energy to hate a fictional character, then I worry for how you spend your energy in real life. You're going to have to work with, live with, maybe even raise people that you don't relate to or don't like. Too many people focus too much energy on what they don't like in people. This is toxic and contagious behavior and it can poison a team, a company, or household in a very painful manner.
The trick is to avoid the "I don't like them" conclusion for as long as you can. And you do this by constantly looking for things you DO like. We all have good and bad in us. When you are getting to know somebody, you will find the traits that you are looking for and usually overlook the rest. So look for the good.

2) Criticisms on relationships: "They're so different", "they have nothing in common", "they're incompatible", "he/she should be with her/him"...
See everything I said in #1. Also consider that, just because you don't understand the dynamics of a relationship, doesn't mean they don't work. Stop wasting your time sharing the reasons you think it doesn't work and look deeper to figure out WHY it does. That's for fictional relationships. In real-world relationships (not including your own) you're better off just accepting that a couple is a couple and get on with your life. This works good enough for fictional relationships too.
Again, this is a behavior that too many people engage in and all it accomplishes is to alienate people. If you're gonna talk about somebody else's relationship, then look for what's good about it. If you're not going to do that, then just accept it, keep your mouth shut, and move on with your life.

And I have to say, that these aren't so annoying in isolated cases. They're annoying because such conversations have COMPLETELY taken over the discussion forums. Seriously, all the time and money you spend to read these stories and all you get out of them is "I don't like her", or "they are such a cute couple". Try a little harder, please.

I have to agree with the original poster's #1 and #2, though. If you're going to abbreviate anything, the way to do it is to write out the whole name the first time you use it, then put the abbreviation in parenthesis. Like this The Lost Hero (TLH); Mark of Athena (MOA). That convention has been used for a long, long time and it works.

Combining names to create a nickname for the couple: It wasn't cute when the tabloids first did it to Brad and Angelina, it's not cute now either. I expect more from people who read actual books.

Perseus wrote: "Wow, I just read what I wrote (I need to do that more often), I don't agree with some of things I said now, thanks to Jordan! I was very mad, and it was late at at night. I write bad stuff when I a..."

This is funny. I can totally relate. Thanks for owning it.

Julia wrote: "You want to talk annoying, here's what's annoying:

1) I hate/can't stand/find annoying (fill in character name here).
You're entitled to your opinion but, seriously, Why? I'm noticing that when f..."

Bravo. Very insightful.

Eleanor *daughter of Hades and Harry Potter's sis* wrote: "People hate Annabeth? Weird!"

TotallY! She is the BEST!!!!!

Why wouldn't you care about the side characters? Most of them were main characters for at least one book. They are vital to the story, hence

Seven Demigods shall answer the call
To storm or fire the world must fall
An oath to keep with final breath
And foes bear arms to the Doors of Death

Firstly, you have interesting points. Thought you should know.

But here's the reason I'm posting, 'cause it kinda made me laugh.

1. Did notice you (or possibly a seriously off auto-correct, those things are weird) grabbed the wrong word, and got bazaar instead of bizarre. Fair enough.

2. Did notice that someone in a kinda overheated attempt to discredit your arguments tried to out-nerd you. To the guy: good attempt. But mate, probably ought to know what you're talking about first, 'cause though you said it's not, bazaar actually is a word.

... This is not awkward at all.

And also, 'cause it's the second time I've seen the same thing today, why has everyone gone all touchy over the mention of Hitler? Are we that soft? Or did I miss something... (It happens a lot.)

missed something...

Woah, thats the first thing i have read where someone has not liked annabeth and im not judging you for it! I think everyone should express their opinion and not hate for it! good on you xx

Ok, get you facts right, Perseus. Here.

Love: Percy, Annabeth, Reyna, Greeks
Like: Frank, Hazel, Nico, Leo
Hate: Jason, Piper, Romans

5. Character's death
I get what you mean about people obsessing with a character dying. There is more to character development than killing off someone. Personally I don't wish for any of the main characters death but I do see how sacrifice is and should be a major theme in this series. Whether it's a major or minor character so long as it's executed right (like Silena and Beckendorf) I won't complain.

Moving on to favoring minor characters. Supposibly all 7 demigods are main characters. How people came to favor Leo and put him on equal footing with Percy and Jason is beyond me. I think he is okay but I don't think he is above the other ones.
Well most of these minor characters are used as plot/character devises.
a. Nico interests me because he is an enigma and an outcast among his people despite being a child of one of the big three. In PJ series he became like a little brother to Percy, but unlike with Tyson he didn't have the need to shelter him from all evils. At some point he started seeing him more as an equal.
b. Thalia, as another child of the big three became a character of interest because we still didn't know if the prophecy was about her. By the time she joined the Hunters she had developed a sibling relationship with Percy. You got to see a different side of being a child of the big three though her.
c. Characters like the stroll brothers were there for comic relief so it was always nice to have there around.
d. Clarisse although didn't have the best personality was still pretty honorable and badass you can't help but respect that, same with Reyna. I guess you see enough of them that at some point they stop being part of the backgound.

4. Romans
I don't hate Romans I actually thought it was refreshing to see a different demigod way of life. Son of Neptune is actually one of my favorite books from this series.

3. Predictions
Yeah, some of these are better off as fanfics rather than discussion topics. Still with the ambiguity of the prophecies it is understandable why people try to find a connection or foreshadowing in the tiniest detail (example how many would have predicted Calypso x Leo or Nico revelation)

2. Abbreviations
You know I actually started using them because in certain sites you are only allowed to write x-amount of characters so it was more out of necessity. So no that doesn't really bother me.

3. Shipping names
I have nothing to say about combining names. I don't care but I do find it amusing how some people will fight for the "correct" ship name. I still don't know if it's Lypso or Caleo, again don't care I know what you mean by either name.

-.- wow i really like actually like hazle, leo, nico, piper, and frank and romans arint that bad i mean really just becaus they arint from the original seirise dosent mean thay are bad at all and there are no "side characters" even chairon, rachle, clarees, the stolls, will, silena, becondorf, chris and all them played a huge roll even reayna and octivian! and saying stuff like "i hope (a random pjo/HoO) dosent die" i mean that just fine srrsly! theyer just defending one of there facvoret demi-gods! ship names are fine as well! i personily like lazel and percabeth! i also personily dislike percy and jason percy and annabeth are great for echother and guess what! "3. obiusly incorect predictions" PEOPLE LIKE MAKEING PREWDICTION THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN I COME TO FLUFFIN RICK RIDORDAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO KISS MAH BUTT AND FALL INTO TARTRUS CUZ U JUST SAID U DONT LIKE THE WHOLE SERIES!










i am sorry but that whole thing just sen tme the wrong whay! and sorry for speliing things whrong -.-

Perseus wrote: "Not everybody will agree with me, but just to start this off, people should stop saying saying a lot of things. I think I am going to give you the Top 5 Most Annoying Things that most fans say, des..."

Straight up dude you were right ONLY and ONLY in your very first sentence in your useless speech-

"Not everybody will agree with me, but just to start this off, people should stop saying saying a lot of things."


You Hypocrite.

And ASIDE from that, you were right in ONLY ONE PHRASE- "but I see many of you disagreeing with me."

Then WHY spreading the Hate around mate?

And I also noticed right now you gave The House Of Hades 5 stars Like do you even make any sense??

*high fives neha and jumps onto a knarly jet board and flys away*

The only thing I agree with form that 'hate' list is Percabeth. I hate couple nicknames...they sound ridiculous in my opinion.


Neha (Athena) (Queen Elinor) wrote: "And I also noticed right now you gave The House Of Hades 5 stars Like do you even make any sense??"

I think he just hates the fans, not the overall series.

Demosthenes wrote: "The only thing I agree with form that 'hate' list is Percabeth. I hate couple nicknames...they sound ridiculous in my opinion.


Neha (Athena) (Queen Elinor) wrote: "And I also noticed right now y..."

I meant that he should accept the fact that this series is as much for Romans as it is for Greeks.

Camp Jupiter = Camp Half Blood.

Perseus wrote: "Wow, I just read what I wrote (I need to do that more often), I don't agree with some of things I said now, thanks to Jordan! I was very mad, and it was late at at night. I write bad stuff when I a..."

Oh great. NOW I read this post *facepalm*. Thanks a lot for clearing it up!

People have the right to love side characters. Nico, Thalia, and Luke are all my favorite characters and Nico's a side character, Thalia barley shows up after the titans curse, and Luke was evil and died. Percy and Leo are amazing but Jason barley has a personality. I hate Annabeth and the abbreviations though and Percebeth isn't cute to me.

I think that the whole business with people making ship names for people was stupid but then I thought "why not?" and I don"t get what some of you have against Leo.
I think that he"s funny and entertaining.
I agree with Nano when he/she says that we have the right to love side characters and it is true. Nico is awesome to me and I still love Luke even if he's dead regardless. Jason does not interest me at all because he has no personality for me to like him and you can call me anything you want but I don't like Frank or Hazel I know that Hazel has died and Franks life in a piece of driftwood but no, I don't like them at all.

Lazel4ever wrote: "-.- wow i really like actually like hazle, leo, nico, piper, and frank and romans arint that bad i mean really just becaus they arint from the original seirise dosent mean thay are bad at all and ..."

It's okay, people always spell things wrong when they're angry.

The most annoying thing that people tell me: "But Jason's JUST LIKE Percy!!! How can you NOT like him?!?!?!"

*headdesk headdesk headdesk* BECUASE I JUST DON'T LIKE HIM, OKAY!!!!!!

And also: "Dude, the Nico thing...BEST PLOT TWIST EVER."

No. It wasn't even a plot twist. It didn't have anything to do with the freaking plot and if it wasn't in there, it wouldn't have changed anything that was relevant to the plot.

And number three: When people say "Uncle Rick". Idk why I don't like that, but I tend to call authors by their last names. Like, "This was written by Dashner." "I really like the way Riordan developed Leo," etc etc.

Jason is not like Percy. Jason is JASON GRACE and Percy is PERCY JACKSON. And I love them both!!!

Also, how CAN you betray a fictional character? I don't like the way the Romans do things, yes, but I absolutely adore Frank and Hazel. Maybe I want Percy to die. Is that betraying any of the characters? No. Because I'm just saying my opinion. I'm getting bored of Percy and Annabeth, though I still love them as characters.

They are FICTIONAL. They are FAKE. They are NOT REAL. You can't "betray" any of them because they aren't real.

Neha (Athena) (Queen Elinor) wrote: "Jason is not like Percy. Jason is JASON GRACE and Percy is PERCY JACKSON. And I love them both!!!"

True, Percy and Jason are nothing alike but i like Percy more cuz to me, Jason's just boring.

Allison wrote: "The most annoying thing that people tell me: "But Jason's JUST LIKE Percy!!! How can you NOT like him?!?!?!"

*headdesk headdesk headdesk* BECUASE I JUST DON'T LIKE HIM, OKAY!!!!!!

And also: "Dude..."

I so agree on those three points. (and have you read The Maze Runner? You mentioned Dashner and I was like, MAZE RUNNER! xD)

Allison wrote: "It wasn't even a plot twist. It didn't have anything to do with the freaking plot and if it wasn't in there, it wouldn't have changed anything that was relevant to the plot."

The revelation might not have been a plot twist but it was definitely used as a plot device. See when Nico admitted his feelings it was because he was confronting Eros the god of love in order to reach Tartarus to save Percy and Annabeth. Unlike Aphrodite that medals and believes love conquers all, Eros portrays a different side of love. One that hurts and is a constant struggle. Also, Nico's challenge wasn't something physical that he could fight off, it was admitting how he felt and sometimes voicing how you feel can be the scariest thing. This quest also served as character development for both Nico and Jason. So I don't think it was a pointless.

I have three really annoying things that I hate

#1: When people like Percy, Annabeth, Leo and Nico, but hate on Jason, Frank, Piper and Hazel. It totally annoys me since they're all main characters, except for Nico.

#2: "Persassy"/"Persassius" to me is a really stupid idea since I've never seen him be sassy. Sure he can be sarcastic and funny, but that isn't the same as being sassy

#3: When people compare Jason and Percy. To me, they're really different and I don't understand why people think they're the same.

Demosthenes wrote: "Allison wrote: "The most annoying thing that people tell me: "But Jason's JUST LIKE Percy!!! How can you NOT like him?!?!?!"

*headdesk headdesk headdesk* BECUASE I JUST DON'T LIKE HIM, OKAY!!!!!!
..."

It's only my FAVORITE SERIES EVER!!!!

Aryan wrote: "Perseus wrote: "Not everybody will agree with me, but just to start this off, people should stop saying saying a lot of things. I think I am going to give you the Top 5 Most Annoying Things that mo..."

For me, she's just getting too predictable. Same with Percy.

Silvio wrote: ""Why does everybody love Annabeth? Annabeth is probably my least favorite of all 7 Demigods. Also about Nico. Why does everybody care about Nico? He is a side character! He can die for all I care. ..."

I still do.