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message 1: by Ninja (last edited Apr 24, 2009 08:21PM) (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
What do you think happens when you die and can you prove that what you say is true?


message 2: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 51 comments When you die, they take you and do two things

1) Burn you, and scatter your ashes
2) Put you in a casket and bury you

Or possibly, 3) Throw you in a lake


message 3: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Marley wrote: "When you die, they take you and do two things

1) Burn you, and scatter your ashes
2) Put you in a casket and bury you

Or possibly, 3) Throw you in a lake"



I mean, more specifically. Do you think we just die and then rot in the ground? We have no souls that go anywhere or anything?

I'm speaking more of the after-life, if there is any. Or Karma. Whatever you think.




message 4: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
i believe there is a heaven and hell and i also believe in reincarnation


message 5: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Ben wrote: "i believe there is a heaven and hell and i also believe in reincarnation"


What is the purpose of reincarnation if you go to Heaven/Hell. Is it just randomly one of the three? Please explain, just wondering.


message 6: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
maybe someone doesnt completely "deserve" the right 2 go 2 heaven so you get a second chance or God gives you the option After you get 2 heaven 2 go back 2 eath and b a "Guardian Angel" a lot of the things i believe now dont make sence. maybe its all just wishfull thinking. idk but its what i believe :)


message 7: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Well what if you're wrong in what you believe? What then?


message 8: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
idk ill just have 2 wait and find out thats all ne of us can do no one KNOWS whats gona happen thats y they call it Faith


message 9: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Ben wrote: "idk ill just have 2 wait and find out thats all ne of us can do no one KNOWS whats gona happen thats y they call it Faith"


You're right, you've just got to have faith. Just be sure you've got faith in the right thing! :)


So how do you get to Heaven or end up in hell or get a second chance?


message 10: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) I <3 you Marley.

Yeah, cause if you've got faith in the wrong thing, you suffer forever. X)

Depending on the situation, my organs will be donated or everything goes to science.


message 11: by korrinamoe (new)

korrinamoe When you die, you'll resurrect someday. Oh yeah, you'll be judged and then sent to the kingdom you'll go to in heaven. And 'ya don't wanna go to the Outer Darkness (aka HELL).

I don't think I fit in this group. It's all SHMARTICALz in here...


message 12: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) No. It's anyone. It's about learning. Listening to other points of view, and deciding what you believe. Some people just already know.


message 13: by korrinamoe (new)

korrinamoe Ben wrote: "i believe there is a heaven and hell and i also believe in reincarnation"

Eh. I don't say there's anything wrong with that. It's just that I believe that we will resurrect someday. You said God will give you a second chance. But you don't know where your soul will go. You might end up in an animal or bug for all you know. Then how can he judge you?
Here's an article that interesting(ish):
http://www.easydeathbook.com/reincarn...



message 14: by korrinamoe (new)

korrinamoe Lauren wrote: "No. It's anyone. It's about learning. Listening to other points of view, and deciding what you believe. Some people just already know. "

Okay. That makes me feel a bit better.


message 15: by Milana (new)

Milana (tutuintopointe) | 779 comments Mod
I think that we go to our next life.


message 16: by korrinamoe (new)

korrinamoe I think a bunch of religions have portions what will happen when we die.


message 17: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Milana wrote: "I think that we go to our next life."


And where will that be? You mean like reincarnation?


message 18: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Anuhea -JePOw!- wrote: "I think a bunch of religions have portions what will happen when we die."


So, like everything that every religion says, somehow we will get a mix of that?


message 19: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Lauren wrote: "No. It's anyone. It's about learning. Listening to other points of view, and deciding what you believe. Some people just already know. "


Exactly, good point, thank you! :)


message 20: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Lauren wrote: "I <3 you Marley.

Yeah, cause if you've got faith in the wrong thing, you suffer forever. X)

Depending on the situation, my organs will be donated or everything goes to science. "



What about an afterlife, if there is any? I don't mean what happens to your body, I'm speaking more of your soul (if you believe that exists).


message 21: by korrinamoe (new)

korrinamoe I still don't believe in reincarnation. While we're here on earth, we're being tested. God will judge us by our actions when we die. We'll be sent to one of the kingdoms. If we sin, we can repent.


message 22: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) There is no separation of mind and body. The mind does not exist outside of the brain. When the body dies, the mind dies, because they are one.

The 'soul' is a trick, if you will, of how we think. We think that we're inside the body controlling it, but really we are the body. That's why brain damage can change people's personalities.


message 23: by Milana (new)

Milana (tutuintopointe) | 779 comments Mod
yeah, like reincarnation. we could be a different animal or even a different race.


message 24: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
i like animals


message 25: by Milana (new)

Milana (tutuintopointe) | 779 comments Mod
Animals are soooooo cute! Well, not cockroaches, but all other animals are adorable!


message 26: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
most other animals r cute naked mole-rats r nasty lookin me n my friend r gettin a chinchilla after we move out n get an apartment


message 27: by korrinamoe (new)

korrinamoe I like animals, but I don't believe in reincarnation. Can you guys explain what you're thinking about the whole reincarnation thing?


message 28: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
nope cuz i dont realy understand it myself


message 29: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Ben wrote: "nope cuz i dont realy understand it myself"


Wait, to you believe in reincarnation?


message 30: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Milana wrote: "yeah, like reincarnation. we could be a different animal or even a different race."


So do we keep reincarnating forever?



message 31: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Anuhea -JePOw!- wrote: "I still don't believe in reincarnation. While we're here on earth, we're being tested. God will judge us by our actions when we die. We'll be sent to one of the kingdoms. If we sin, we can repent."


What if you are wrong?


message 32: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) You would keep reincarnating, until you got enough good karma for nirvana, a state of ultimate peace. Allegedly.

What makes one religion right and the other wrong? Based on available facts, the odds are that none of them are right anyway.


message 33: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
very true, thats y i believe what i do, i believe in the posibility that ne or all religions r right


message 34: by Milana (new)

Milana (tutuintopointe) | 779 comments Mod
Yeah, we would keep reincarnating.


message 35: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
not many people r on 2day


message 36: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) How could all religions be right? The very notion of having hells prevents them from being right. By following one, you damn yourself in all the others.


message 37: by Daisy (new)

Daisy actually they could all be right. If all religions are right it may just depend on which one you are. They may not all be right all the time but they may all be real. Maybe God did create the world but maybe he didn't create people and so on.


message 38: by Ben (new)

Ben | 505 comments Mod
♂fo sho♂


message 39: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
GreenDaisy BlackStem wrote: "actually they could all be right. If all religions are right it may just depend on which one you are. They may not all be right all the time but they may all be real. Maybe God did create the world..."


So how dd we get here if God didn't create us but he exists? Evolution after he made the planets and such?


message 40: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) He becomes unnecessary then. In philosophy, Occham's Razor tells us we have no reason to believe in something that takes such a huge leap. The simplest idea that assumes the least should be considered correct. If we have God, then who made him? Then who made that guy? It's an infinite regress of improbability, till it approaches 0. And if you think God was always there, then cut the middle man and say the universe was always there.


message 41: by korrinamoe (new)

korrinamoe Ben wrote: "nope cuz i dont realy understand it myself"

F**k


message 42: by korrinamoe (new)

korrinamoe NinjaFanpire wrote: "Anuhea -JePOw!- wrote: "I still don't believe in reincarnation. While we're here on earth, we're being tested. God will judge us by our actions when we die. We'll be sent to one of the kingdoms. If..."

How do you know that I'm wrong and you're right?


message 43: by Daisy (new)

Daisy NinjaFanpire wrote: "GreenDaisy BlackStem wrote: "actually they could all be right. If all religions are right it may just depend on which one you are. They may not all be right all the time but they may all be real. M..."

That or someone else's god or godess


message 44: by Milana (new)

Milana (tutuintopointe) | 779 comments Mod
yeah, they could all be right


message 45: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Anuhea -JePOw!- wrote: "How do you know that I'm wrong and you're right? "


Did I say I was right?


message 46: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) It can't all be right. The improbability is practically zero. There are too many conflicts about fundamental concepts. Every creation story is different. Even past religions, like the Egyptian and Romans. Different rules, everything.


message 47: by Daisy (last edited Apr 26, 2009 03:10PM) (new)

Daisy I didn't say it was all right I said it could all be real. Not all of it can be right all the time but it can all exist


message 48: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (djinni) How so, can it all exist, yet not all be real?


message 49: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Lauren wrote: "How so, can it all exist, yet not all be real?"


Yes, ditto the question. How can it all be real but not true?


message 50: by Ninja (new)

Ninja (ninjafanpire) | 616 comments Mod
Lauren wrote: "It can't all be right. The improbability is practically zero. There are too many conflicts about fundamental concepts. Every creation story is different. Even past religions, like the Egyptian and ..."


Ya, there are just too many conflicts for them to all be right.



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