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**spoiler alert** So can we actually talk about the book? Specifically, the ending.
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Heather, the brother was still in Afghanistan on duty and I can't find anything in the book that hinted that John knew the brother's name even. So that eliminates John just jetting off to kill him. I think John only got the idea to frame the brother when he saw the guy on the CCTV footage and thought he could frame someone else for the murder. (Though I'm not sure at what point he realized it was actually the brother in the video.) Mostly, I think John didn't think Strike would actually investigate because it had been an idle case and John gave such a good performance of grief in the beginning that Strike should have just thought him in need of emotional help.

I'm really enjoying this discussion, thanks everyone!


I think the reason John came to Cormoran was to find Lula's half brother. John was a psychopath and I think he was a really paranoid guy. Lula told John that she wanted to give all her money to her brother and that there was a will and everything. He wanted to check that story out and also make sure that nobody would come along later on to claim the money. John was thinking that due to Cormoran's financial situation, he would be a lot easier to manipulate. I think he was expecting Cormoran to find her brother, but not actually solve the murder. That's why when John brought over the evidence, he was so concerned with the runner and not at all with anything else.
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First off we have Bristow meeting Strike at his office. Right away he references his brother Charlie and his murder, this being the reason that he chose Strike, because of his love for Charlie and the fact that Strike was Charlie's best friend. I think this right here shows how brilliant Bristow believes himself to be, and how manipulative he is. John believes that he has already gotten away with the murder of two of his siblings and he basically is flaunting this in Strike's face right off the bat. I think then we can see by their first meeting that Bristow is arrogant, which could point to a reason why he wants the case investigated. Bristow is so sure that there is no evidence pointing to him as the murderer that he wants to cover all his bases to make sure that he is the one to inherit the money. He wants to frame Lula's real brother for the murder so that even if Lula's will is found Bristow is still set up to get everything being Lula's closest living heir (assuming that her mother dies and leaves everything to John and her biological brother is in jail, framed for the murder).
I agree with Heather's comment that John most likely did not know who this brother was. This could be another reason to hire Strike. Perhaps he thought Strike capable of finding the brother and even if he was unable to pin the murder on him, Bristow could plan to in some way do away with him so he could not inherit Lula's fortune. This is problematic though because Lula's real brother is deployed to Afghanistan in the army so he would be hard to find and/or reach.
As the novel progresses we are time and time again pointed to John as the largest suspect, but until the end we can't see his motive because we do not know about the half-brother.
We see Bristow acting very suspiciously when the subject of Rochelle comes up. It's obvious that he does not want Stirke to talk to her, worried that she will give him up on the blackmail or let something slip about the will or the conversations Lula had with her brother. The reaction that Bristow has when there is evidence that the photos were deleted from Lula's laptop also gave me pause. Bristow stops dead in the conversation almost as if to compose himself and gauge his response. He's also suspicious because he is set to inherit all of Lula's money according to Ciara Porter, and I believe when Strike brings this up to Bristow he has a strange reaction. I'll admit I can't remember exactly what made me suspicious of him, but I know when reading I thought to myself "I wonder if he could be the murderer"
Overall I really thought the book was excellent. Not perfect, I was left with some questions, but i really enjoyed it.

The main reason that John had to frame sombody else for the murder is that there was a ticking clock over his head- Tony Landry. Don't forget that Tony:
1. Probably knew what John did to Charlie.
2. Knew that John was lying about being in his mother's house the day of the murder.
It's a ticking clock, because as long as John's mother was alive, Tony would never ruin the last months of her life by telling her and everyone else that her own son killed her other sons. But as the months go by and she's closer to dying... why not tell after she's dead, actually? You may say "why would he want to get into this?", to which I reply- "why not?"
We never learned alot about Tony Landry, and for all we know, he is a man who wants justice, even if it will be a headache for him.
John knew that, and so he had to frame somebody else for the murder so that:
1. Tony would reconsider if John actually killed Lula.
2. Tony's task of framing John would be much much harder- he probably wouldn't even try.
Combine all of this with the fact that he was a narccisist and that he didn't want Lula's half-brother to get the money when or if the will would ever be found (thus causing his murder to be pointless), and I think it's perfectly clear why he hired Strike.

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Yes, there was a lot going on in that ending! In my understanding, the motive was that John actually needed Lula's money. Lula's hastily-drawn will bequeathed all her assets to her brother -- and everyone assumed that she meant John, rather than her biological brother, Joseph, because nobody knew that Joseph even existed. John was paranoid that someone would find out about Joseph (or that he would come forward of his own volition) causing John to lose all of the money he recently inherited, so John was looking to frame Joseph, who was running away from the scene of the crime. He thought that Cormoran was an easy mark because he looked washed up and and unimpressive -- he thought that he could easily influence Cormoran into concluding that Joseph was guilty. (This explains why he deliberately tripped up parts of the investigation, like trying to secretly stop Cormoran from talking to Rochelle.)
John, despite all appearances, was in a financially precarious position, having been outed (at least within his company) for embezzling funds (in relation to the prominent court case he was working on), and needed to repay them. (This makes Tony Landry's suspicion of John's motives very reasonable.) He was living beyond his means to maintain appearances; his trust fund wasn't doing well because a large portion of the stock had significantly decreased in value (I don't remember exactly why, but that particular company was doing badly.). He and Lula had been arguing not about her lowlife boyfriend, as people assumed, but about the fact that he wanted her to "lend" him money and she refused, on the day she died.




I liked the characters, and I'd read more of them, but there was a lack of mystery

(The only other legitimate clue to the woman behind the pseudonym that I noticed was the predilection for homes and hospitals named after really obscure saints. Mungo? Elmo? Who's next? Cosma? Turibius?)

The ending was definitely guess-able. I had it. It was very similar to the style of Agatha Christie. She taught me well: follow the money!

Also a thing that confused me, Wilson the security guy was he connected in some way to Lula's biological brother. I remember him talking about having a military son.


Because he needed to really be in the clear. He was being blackmailed. He knew of another half-brother. He knew Tony Landry would continue to control him unless he somehow got (Ayembe) the half-brother identified and blamed. Clearing him and negating blackmail and Tony. Cormoran was much better then expected.

And just random thought about adopted children:
I think people who refuse to be child's parents are kind of crazy (I'm not talking about poor families who can not afford to rise baby), the other day I saw on TV that one family (they weren't poor) had four children and they had three of them at home and they gave one of their child in orphanage and they never visit him. This is ridiculous... I think people who refuse to keep baby because of nothing, have mental problems so their children... Not all of them are crazy, of course, if they have crazy husband who beats them everyday or if they don't have enough money to even feed themselves it's right to give child to institution but when they have no excuse, it is not acceptable, that means they have mental problems and their children might be mentally ill too... I repeat myself: no offence to anyone, not every child in orphanage are ill.
I know I said same thing in every sentence but maybe that's only my opinion...

At any rate I thought this was a really good mystery but also, having never been a Harry Potter fan I was blown away by Rowling's writing and wit. The characters were believable and entertaining (loved Guy!) and I want more. As someone else pointed out, a story line with old Johny Rokeby needing Strike’s help would be poetic justice indeed.

It's really hard to write a good mystery novel because so much turns on the ending and an anti-climactic ending is the worst in a mystery/thriller novel.

If I remember correctly, Stike knew the will would be in the wardrobe because someone had mentioned that all of Lula's belongings were in the wardrobe. Lula didn't place the will in there, rather it was in the lining of one of her bags that she received from Guy Some. I believe Strike found this out when he met with the makeup artist and Ciara Porter, although I can't remember exactly which one mentioned that the linings in the bags were interchangeable. Also, I don't think Lula trusted Rochelle per se. I think she was kind of using her. She knew the press wouldn't be that interested in Rochelle, so she used her to be able to talk to her brother (by purchasing the cellphone for Rochelle and calling her brother from that phone).
I also was surprised at John being the murderer, but only because I couldn't find his motive. Everything isn't wrapped up for us until the meeting between the two of them at the end. What made me suspect him however was 1. The fact that he would not help Strike find Rochelle and that he actually tried to sway him from ever meeting her. 2. The pictures that were deleted from the laptop, when Strike brings this up to Bristow, he takes a long pause and his reaction to the entire thing is quite strange and 3. The fact that Bristow was named by Lula as the person to whom she was leaving everything (even though the brother she references is in fact not Bristow, but we don't find that out until later).
I thought the ending was really good, but I actually like when I can't guess who it was or when I get it wrong. I like that surprise and unveil.

I have a further two questions:
- Why did John leave Rochelle's mobile phone in his mothers safe?
- Cormoran said he knew John will come armed, so why did he reveal the truth alone with John? I mean if John had a gun, then Cormoran would've died there. Or did he somehow know that John will come with a knife.

I found that a bit odd as well. I would have liked to hear a confession from (view spoiler) himself but wow! he must have been insane to have drummed up all the lies. It was also shocking to me that he (view spoiler)

John probably would've killed Jonah eventually I agree but he assumed Lulu's brother was going to die in Afghanistan or wherever he was serving anyway. I thought this book was well written and I was impressed by how good a detective Cormoran Strike was. I will definitely like to read more from this hero he is made out to be and I just loved Robin didn't you? A real Batman and Robin lol

Me too! I found it odd that John would hire a detective even after he got away with the murder. I don't pretend to understand the mind of a psychopath though. I was under the impression that John Bristow was a good guy but it threw me for a loop when I heard Strike witnessing against him! of all people! I was floored . So good.

I liked the characters, and I'd read more of them, but there was a lack of mystery "
Boy you guys are smart for guessing whodunnit. I suspected one of the runners in hoodies but never would have guessed John Bristow. That was amazing

I was only confused at who the suspect/murderer was but Strike wasn't; since he knew the only person who would carry a handbag was John Bristow's mother.

Right :)

I have a further two questions:
- Why did John leave Rochelle's mobile phone in his mothers safe?
- Cormoran said he knew John will come armed, so why did he reveal the truth alone with John? I mean if John had a gun, then Cormoran would've died there. Or did he somehow know that John will come with a knife. "
I guess John felt he needed to keep Rochelle's mobile phone because it had the evidence of Lulu talking to her brother Jonah? Also because Lulu was still paying for the service and Rochelle was blackmailing John.
Strike had recorded the last meeting with John Bristow and Strike made a big deal that he was a boxer so he was prepared to defend himself even though he had just fell down a set of stairs and his prosthetic was killing him but you're right. John could've shot him.

You're forgetting where this story takes place.
It's not LA, it's the UK. Not every psychopath with an attitude can get a gun. At least not that easily. Knives are, in fact, the number one weapon for assault.
As for "revealing the truth…" Strike got all the exchange with Bristow down on the recorder of his mobile phone. Everything Bristow said. That was the point of having the meeting with just the two of them. Bristow would have clammed up if anyone else was there. Since Bristow, like most people, didn't think of the possibility of the phone being used as a recorder. (We had this painted out for us in exquisite detail earlier in the story, remember?) The long and short of that is that Strike's got a confession.
I'm not sure if to what extent the recording would be usable as evidence under English law. But even if the recording were disallowed in a trial, the fact that Strike has it, and all the detail, would give the prosecution the foundation for a solid case.
To those coming late to the thread: I was originally a little skeptical about the ending, but after a little thought it became increasingly clear that it's an extremely clever denouement.


I too was completly surprises with John's role - I think it was a very interesting idea to have him actually employ Strike to investigate a crime he had committed himself.
I absolutely loved the line where John says to Strike "You ought to give up detecting and try fantasy writing" - that had me in stitches.
I agree Terry, I too thought it was a great read regardless of what anyone says. I really do hope she writes more for Strike and especially Robin (she is just such a lovely character).

Aisling it wasn't me who asked it but someone by the name of Highways . I quoted Highways.

What I didn't like about this book was that the author didn't take us along on the journey of working out who did it. It was all just a endless list of questions - and then suddenly all is revealed.
I would have preferred if we were let into Strike's thoughts, who he believed, what he didn't, what his suspicions were etc.
That whole being naked on the balcony thing literally came out of thin air and I started to think I'd skipped some pages, then there's the part where Strike admits there wasn't a photo, he just made that up to fit in with his theory. It would have been better if the reader was taken along on how he came to this theory.
I didn't like the writing style of leaving the reader totally in the dark until the big reveal at the end.

@Jackie
I apologise for misquoting you

That definitely hadn't occurred to me at all at that point.
However I meant more how that was introduced, suddenly Strike is talking about this photo where you can see her. I'm thinking "what photo? where was that mentioned?" That's where I thought I had skipped reading something.
I was also completely puzzled about how Rowling chose to write about Strike. He's fat, hairy, has 'pube hair' one leg (with some kind of gross sore on the end of his stump) Drinks and smokes (so he probably stinks)and he has dubious personal hygiene - yet we are expected to believe that gorgeous women are falling at his feet and a supermodel drags him into bed after knowing him for a couple of hours?
Seriously? She has the pick of a nightclub full of gorgeous young men and she sleeps with the old fat, hairy dude? No way.
Even Robin, the start of the book is how blissfully happy she is to be engaged, yet Strike has to make an effort to keep a professional distance in case she can't stop herself from falling for him?
If this was written by a guy, you could rationalize it away as wishful thinking, but Rowling should know that's not how women react to guys like Strike.

That definitely hadn't occurred to me a..."
I think he kept his distance from Robin so HE didn't mix professional and personal life, and ended up putting them in an uncomfortable situation, and not because she might fall for him.
But I do agree with you about Ciara, it's unlikely that she'd want him to spend the night with.
For the ones who were asking about Strike knowing about the will in the handbag, wasn't it because Lula had gotten pretty serious when Ciara asked for that bag for herself? Like trying to avoid her to touch it and see it?
Although I don't know how it would fit with the makeup artist seeing the will...

John had Cormoran re-investigate the case because remember Tansy Bestigui heard the conversation, so maybe someone was bound to believe her if she revealed she wasn't in the bathroom, but in the balcony.
Then Rochelle was aware of things too. So, before someone opens their mouth, he wanted to have Cormoran blame the murder on the runner. Plus, he was "batshit insane" as Strike says.

And to the posters who said that Strike knew Bristow wouldn't come to his office at the end armed with a gun because in England no one has access to guns, that's preposterous. He was a well-connected man from a wealthy family and surely could have gotten his hands on one somehow. Again, it was just a bit too convenient that he had a knife instead.



I suppose that's true, though it's a tad convenient that the stalker wasn't threatening to shoot him. And I don't remember the part where Bristow learns about Strike's stalker and what he says in his letters. (It could be there, I just don't remember it.)
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