Questioning Society discussion

Why are you conservative? Liberal? etc.

Because of my lack of religion, conservatism seems strange. The Religious Right seems to be the only Right.

because i believe these things are right.

Milana wrote: "because i believe these things are right."

Ok, we get that. But why? What influenced you? Your Parents? Your religion? etc.

My biggest influence would probably be the fact that I'm a military kid. That should explain alot right there.

My biggest influence is probably the fact that my mother never set me on a direct path

I am liberal because I am open to all spiritual paths.
I am socially liberal because I think all people deserve the same opportunities. My college religion professor had the most influence on me.

Up until four years ago, I was an atheist. I didn't believe in God, religion, the Bible, or basically nothing else either. Four years ago, I became a Christian, and now my religious beliefs are my main beliefs.

"2183713 My biggest influence would probably be the fact that I'm a military kid. That should explain alot right there. "

It does. X)

What caused you to switch, Camerandi?

GreenDaisy BlackStem wrote: "My biggest influence is probably the fact that my mother never set me on a direct path"

That's me right there. My parents just let me be who I wanted to be. Any human left to their own devices, but taught basic good human behaviors will tend to drift liberal, in my opinion. Most of the time, people go towards conservatism when blinded by religion.

Agreed when set on a path a person either follows or goes the opposite way.

Davis wrote: "Why are you conservative? Liberal? etc."

I'm Libertarian because I believe in less government, more freedom. My parents are conservative, as well (my mom's a strong libertarian, my father's in between libertarian and republican) but we study from all different sides to gain a better knowledge of why democrats believe what they do. My parents didn't really involve me in truly learning politics until I started to teach myself and study (by myself) from all different sides of the political spectrum. They have influence on me, but not a whole lot, which is why even though I believe in less government control and that sort of thing you'll still see me debating against things becoming legal that I don't think should become legal.

The whole "Libertarian" thing just seems inane to me honestly. We are too far in the Modern Age to scale back. We have socialized schools, postal system, etc., there is no reason removing something that is proven to work, we should just make it better.

That's exactly why we need to remove it. Does it honestly seem to be working very well? When I look at it, no, it doesn't. We have a freedom and the more control we give the government the less of that freedom we'll have. The more control we give them the more they'll take until there's nothing left to take.

Well, if we want to see how well it works, let's go to a 3rd-world country with no government to control and organize them.

The post office seems to be working fine. Except the fact that they're only delivering half the mail they had 5-6 years ago. It's other factors affecting them, not the socialization. ((i have an in at the post office, so I know things. :))

Jayda wrote: "That's exactly why we need to remove it. Does it honestly seem to be working very well? When I look at it, no, it doesn't. We have a freedom and the more control we give the government the less of ..."

Are you suggesting the total privatization of schools?

What influenced me.... ummm... my teachers and parents.

No, horrible idea. If all schools are private and don't have to answer to anyone, *shudders* Imagine a world filled with Catholic schools. They could teach anything, at all, even the stupidest stuff possible. Oh wait, they do, so now we know exactly why we need some sort of official standard.

No. Government is needed to at least try to keep the schools in line.

"A Liberal is someone so open minded, their brains fall out" lol no disrespect, just saw a bumper sticker once that said it and thought it was funny.

Or

Annoy a conservative - Think for yourself!

Lauren wrote: "Or

Annoy a conservative - Think for yourself!"

That's a great one.

They are both based in truth, No?

http://www.bumpertalk.com/bumpertalk/...

More oodles of fun. Or it would be, if these weren't serious.

YoudontGnomie wrote: "They are both based in truth, No?"

I think it's kinda stupid to say you can be too open-minded.

It means, that conservatives feel guilty about being bigots, and want to transfer their guilt to us. X)

I'm a fence-rider personally and I think that being too far left or right is being sort of ridiculous. I mean in a country so diverse you have to have a middle ground.

"I mean in a country so diverse you have to have a middle ground."

That's the kind of thinking that leads to people voting Republican. Ugh.

Sorry but I don't base my voting desicions on party lines.

Davis wrote: ""I mean in a country so diverse you have to have a middle ground."

That's the kind of thinking that leads to people voting Republican. Ugh."

Open-minded, huh? :)
I'd respond to all of the other remarks but I have to go soon.

lol

Jayda wrote: "Davis wrote: ""I mean in a country so diverse you have to have a middle ground."

That's the kind of thinking that leads to people voting Republican. Ugh."

Open-minded, huh? :)
I'd respond to..."

I never claimed to be so open-minded that I conservatives have anything of value to offer. I'm not crazy.

"I mean in a country so diverse you have to have a middle ground."

This is the Golden Mean fallacy: along the entire spectrum of opinion, the correct opinion, or truth, is exactly in the middle. This is obviously not always the case. To give an extreme example, there was a time when people on one extreme supported slavery, and people on the other extreme supported complete emancipation and legal equality for slaves. The moderate would say, "Hey, extremism of any stripe is wrong, so I take the middle road: let's have indentured servitude." This is obviously not the "correct" position.

If someone has moderate views, that's fine, as long as they can support them. But if your views are middle-of-the-road simply because you think there's some virtue in middles, that's not much of a reason.

Golden Mean Fallacy <3

And it also caused absolutely no one to be happy, which prolongs the problem .

Dan wrote: ""I mean in a country so diverse you have to have a middle ground."

This is the Golden Mean fallacy: along the entire spectrum of opinion, the correct opinion, or truth, is exactly in the middle. ..."

Bingo.

It is of my opinion that a majority of the time, the liberal decision is the correct one.

What is a Correct opinion? To me, an opinion isn't correct or incorrect, It's an opinion, thought. What I was trying to say earlier was that I usually see the plus sides of either & Don't define myself as Liberal or Conservative. That's all I was tryin' to say not that I think that there should be indentured servitude. LoL

Why are you capitalizing the word 'opinion'?
Hahahaha.

LOL I have no Idea

would you like me to edit it so you dont have to look at my misuse of capitals?

(x I don't care.

Well, I do. But it would be rude to ask you to fix it. Okay =D

Davis wrote: "GreenDaisy BlackStem wrote: "My biggest influence is probably the fact that my mother never set me on a direct path"

That's me right there. My parents just let me be who I wanted to be. Any human ..." I agree.

I'm an anarchist because I love the party symbol and image is everything.

http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/4...

I believe that sufficiently explains it for me.

I'm a liberal because I honestly think that conservatism (namely social conservatism) is harmful and backwards. People who want to control the personal lives of others clearly have problems with themselves. Laws to keep us safe are great. But the government should never legislate taste. If gay people want t get married, great for them. It doesn't bother me. If people want to have sex or smoke weed, that's great for them. If they drive while intoxicated is when we have a problem. My general rule is that people should do whatever makes them happy, so long as they don't hurt anyone else.

I grew up Catholic. I am an atheist because, after lots of research, I found that I had no reason at all to believe in God, and that I was strongly opposed to many of the main teachings of most major religions. Atheism, naturalism, just makes more sense to me. It's like I finally admitted what I had known all my life. Also, I see no reason why people consider faith to be a virtue. Believing things with no reason is considered silly, irrational, or just plain crazy in every other aspect of life, so why is it suddenly a virtue when it comes to religion? I just don't understand that.
So, that's a basic summary. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I assure you it was not intentional. As I said in my first paragraph, I don't think that anyone, including me, has the right to tell others what to think or believe or how to act. That includes religion. I can tell you what I think, but in the end you are just as capable of making a decision as I am, and I have to respect that.

Don't worry, I offend them a lot, so everyone is used to it. :D

Lauren wrote: "Don't worry, I offend them a lot, so everyone is used to it. :D"

Oh, well that's good to know. I have a reputation for that on another forum, so I thought I should be careful. But now that I have the permission... ;)

Emily wrote: "I'm a liberal because I honestly think that conservatism (namely social conservatism) is harmful and backwards. People who want to control the personal lives of others clearly have problems with th..."

Oh, you are so darling. Yes, the liberal party wants to give you SO much freedom.

May I stay at your house next time I visit Mars?

"May I stay at your house next time I visit Mars? "

If unicorns can breath nothing, as Mars isn't terraformed.

We breath the stench of belligerent sycophants...So if you would be so kind as to accompany me, I'll have more than enough to survive on.

"Oh, you are so darling. Yes, the liberal party wants to give you SO much freedom.

May I stay at your house next time I visit Mars?"

Awww, how cute. Another self-righteous conservative