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Addy | 1944 comments Justin and addy will be starting today. If anyone would like to join feel free to let us know so I can add you.


Addy | 1944 comments Gonna start this tonight.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
I just finished the prequel part.


Addy | 1944 comments I'm about 10%. Can you guess at what might have happened? I have no idea. Sounds like he got drunk and got into a fight but it has to be more than that. On another note, Lola seems like quite the catch. I'm envious of her and her dad's relationship.


Addy | 1944 comments 18% This looks like its gonna be good. I'll continue tomorrow.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
i didn't get past the prequel but will get into it good tomorow


Addy | 1944 comments 40%(view spoiler)


Addy | 1944 comments 60% and its still unclear what has happened...hoping to find out soon.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
I don't read much while on break sorry. I will get back to it next year though. Sorry


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Addy | 1944 comments Not a problem. I didn't know. I'm planning on getting back to this later so no rush.


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Addy | 1944 comments I don't know when you'll get back to this but I couldn't help but continue. This book is very raw and touches some subjects that aren't common to think about. I might finish today, but will continue with the discussion whenever you're ready. No rush, I know you're on vacation:)


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
Yea, go ahead. I will be back to work on the second and it should only take a couple days.


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Addy | 1944 comments 88% Can't wait for u to read this! Wow, wow, wow. I was soo wrong in predicting the outcome of this book. I am devastated...this book couldn't get any deeper.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
I am 30% and I want to make a prediction, don't tell me if I am right or wrong but I think he got drunk and raped someone, possibly the entire dive team did.


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Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
I have been thinking rape from the beginning because it is no longer on Amazon and books with rape are forbidden so it would explain it being banned. I thought he was the victim until their drinking game now I'm thinking diffrent


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Addy | 1944 comments Haha....thats all I gotta say:)


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
He just had a dream about drowning some girl in a bath tub so maybe it is just murder. Are you completely done now addy? I should get close tonight.


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Addy | 1944 comments Yes. I'm done:) It'll blow your mind.


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Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
I'm I think about 60% he told lola that he had been raped and they are at the vacation house now. I know there is another twist or surprise coming, I just know it. It is being made to look like it was his coach that did it but I'm not sure, this author likes to try and lead you in the wrong direction so it is a suprise when she reveals things. All the mentions of him being a criminal and his crime and what he did the entire book makes it look like he is the one who hurt someone else not the victim. I really hope he did hurt some one and that wasn't all just bullshit or I'm going to feel a little cheated. I am going to guess that the indications that his coach is the one who raped him is another misdirection and that it was actually his father. The reason I say that is because when he was talking to his mom in his room he wants to ask her how she could have left him with his dad and his coach and not been there to protect him, normally leaving a kid with his dad for protection would be normal so that was kind of a weird thing to think. Maybe I'm just thinking incest because of her last book though, there is nothing other than that one line that makes me think that so it is probably not right. I will finish this tomorrow night.


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Addy | 1944 comments Yeah. I was thinking all of those things as well. You'll see tonight!


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
Ok, finally done. You go first though, tell me what you liked and didn't like about it. I'm going to think about it tonight and tomorrow and I will post my thoughts tomorrow night.


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Addy | 1944 comments I've got flu so won't be on here to much. I'll get back to u as soon as I feel better.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
Sorry to hear that, hope you get better soon.


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Addy | 1944 comments Thanks Justin, half a day later Im feeling slightly better. At least now I can type.

I honestly thought that the person who raped the guy was Perez the whole time because he wanted to party and you know how u hear about coaches nowadays. When I discovered it was his gf's dad, Jerry, my heart sank because I knew now why he didn't want to tell her and lose her forever. The rape itself was pretty brutal. And then when we find that Lola killed herself, man, I didn't expect that. I don't even know if it was necessary...idk, maybe its because I didn't want her to do that. Overall, I really enjoyed this book because it had me guessing and it talked about something you dint hear about alot.


message 25: by Justin (last edited Jan 06, 2014 02:06PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
I started suspecting her dad shortly before it was revealed but it was close enough that it was still a surprise. I liked that, that was who it was but I think her suicide was totally unnecessary and unbelievable. I think this author is big on the whole self sacrifice for love thing but it just didn't work for me, she killed herself so he would be able to move on and not think about it when he sees her? That's dumb, he loved her and if she thought killing herself was the best thing for him she is stupid. Maybe if she couldn't live with her dad being a rapist and it caused some emotional turmoil and depression I would believe it. I also didn't like all the false implications of him committing a crime or being a criminal, or talking about how he is a monster for what he did and even having a dream about killing someone. I understand that the author wants to use misdirection so that the big reveal is more of a shock but she can't just give us a bunch of bullshit about him doing something bad himself with no explanation for it later. I feel cheated. I also wasn't upset in the least when lola killed herself because I didn't care about her at all, even though she was a main character in this story she wasn't really much more than matheo's girlfriend and I wish her character was a little more developed. My last complaint is that I got bored of the whole "something bad happened but I can't tell you" conversation and then he runs off and she chases him. It was a bit repetitive. Despite all that I did enjoy it though, and gave it three stars, I think the author tells a good story but is not that good of a writer.


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Addy | 1944 comments I think she did a great job at writing the inner dialogue/turmoil if you have the patience for it. I felt like I was in his head feeling those feelings of despair and complete utter helplessness. Perhaps feeling like he did something wrong helped him deal with his feelings. Being raped by your gf's dad has gotta take you somewhere dark and I felt she accomplished that.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
Her descriptions of people and places where well written, as well as the characters feelings. I just don't think the story was very well written mostly with the way she used misdirection in a way that was never explained later. I enjoyed it though, and would read another of her books she just isn't my favorite author.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
So which did you like better between this and forbidden? I liked forbidden better even though I hated the ending.


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Addy | 1944 comments I think I liked them both equally. Apparently there is one about a pianist dealing with depression, a trilogy I think that more ppl liked, but I find her books emotionally draining. I need a break! Maybe someday.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
So what's next out of our big list of tbbr (to be buddy read) list? I won't want to start anything until I get caught up on a few other things but I was thinking the kingdom of childhood book that you suggested. I was also going to see if you would like to read Some Are Sicker Than Others with me.


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Addy | 1944 comments I'd like to read both. I've read a book called Smashed that was pretty good. Also about addiction. I'll have to see if I can borrow them. The Kingdom one is 8 bucks and the other is 3 but am trying to pay off my credit card before I start buying again.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
I heard about a drug called krokodile the other day that immediately makes your skin start to rot. I google imaged pictures of people that use the drug and it just blew my mind that people would do that to themselves, I mean the other drugs are bad enough but this stuff makes your body start to rot the first time you use it, the pictures on google look like zombies. It made me want to read a book about addiction.


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Addy | 1944 comments Wow. That is so sick! Does it have anything with wanting to be a reptile?


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
Minutes after injecting it your skin turns green and scaly looking like a crocodiles. After a few days it slides of and rots often right down to the bone, the pictures are disgusting.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
It is suppose to be similar to heroin but made with diffrent household chemicals like meth is.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
Your life span is shortened to less than a year the first time you use it.


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Addy | 1944 comments Wow. That is crazy. A death sentence.


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Addy | 1944 comments Unfortunately, Kingdom of Childhood isn't lendable. Might have to put that one on the back burner for now. I'm checking the other one. I'm hoping to start buying by the end of February or sooner if I get a job.


Justin (justineaton) | 3492 comments Mod
I got a copy of some are sicker than others from lendle.me I know you requested it so as soon as you get it let me know and we can start it.


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