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So... I was rereading Clockwork Princess and in the end, when Tessa thinks about Will's death it's said that the daughters of Sophie and Gideon are there.

"...their nieces and nephews-Cecy's blue-eyed boys, tall and handsome, and Gideon and Sophie's two girls..."

Problem is: the two girls are already dead by the time Will died (according to the family three). So... how the f*** are they there?

(Just to keep it noted: Will died in 1937, Barbara Lightwood died in 1917 and Eugenia Lightwood died in 1930)

What I want o know is if Cassandra made a mistake there or if there's something else to it (like, I don't know, the girls became vampires or werewolves and were considered 'dead' by the Clave).

So what do you guys know or think about that?

(Forgive me if there's anything wrong, my native language is not english).

I'm rereading Clockwork Princess too but I'm at chapter 2 because I just started a couple days ago.

I noticed the same thing when I was rereading it a month ago, but I dismissed it as a mistake. I never thought about them becoming immortal or them being considered dead. That's a very interesting theory.

We might find out in the future because Clare said she was going to make 5 shadowhunter series TMI, TID ,TDA , TLH, and TWP. So I know that TLH is supposed to take place in 1903 and TDA is supposed to take place 4 years after the TMI series.

I'd like to share a theory, feel free to tell me how stupid it is ;)

James Herondale

I was looking at the tarot card art Cassandra Jean made and I came across Tessa and Will's children, James and Lucie. Lucie had blue eyes, unmistakably inherited from Will, but James had amber colored eyes. Obviously Tessa doesn't have that eye color, and I don't remember anything ever mentioning amber eyes in the Herondale family (besides Jace of course, but that's much farther into the future.) 

I flipped through some other art and I found a picture of Magnus with almost the same eye color, but we all know his cat eyes are his warlock mark. So then I thought about Tessa and how the closest thing she is is to a warlock. She doesn't have a warlock mark though, but she is immortal. Maybe, she passed on a warlock trait she was possessing in her genetic code on to James, and his eyes are that of a warlocks mark. But we know he's most likely mortal and a shadowhunter so...I'm probably looking too much into this. He might just have amber eyes passed down from a couple generations. Yeah, that's probably it.

That's actually a theory I would really like to believe!

Me too haha it would be interesting.

Elise wrote: "We might find out in the future because Clare said she was going to make 5 shadowhunter series TMI, TID ,TDA , TLH, and TWP. So I know that TLH is supposed to take place in 1903 and TDA is supposed..."

Do you know what TLH and TWP stand for?

Jordan I think Cassie said that TLH stands out for "The Last Hamburger" That's all we've got for now..
And I didn't know there was going to be a TWP series. Does anyone knows when does it takes place?

Cassie said it was going to be far into the future. Don't know if she meant the books going to be published very far into the future or were all going to get a futuristic shadowhunter series. That would kind of be awesome.

TWP stands for The Wicked Powers.

wow, i didnt know she was making TWP. Im so excited. Im gonna read all her books! and ill look into Ka and Tara's theories

I found my info about TWP and TLH on tmisource.com if you want to know a little more on those series.

have any of you read clockwork princess's epilogue??

The Last Hours. TLH

where have you guys read the family tree?? it wasnt in the book..

Where have you read the family tree??its not in the book..

Anum wrote: "Where have you read the family tree??its not in the book.."

The family tree came in the first copies of Clockwork Princess, but you can find it on the internet.

The family tree's rubbish, cassie practically said so :( it's an attempt to mislead us

Carmela C.G. wrote: "The family tree's rubbish, cassie practically said so :( it's an attempt to mislead us"

I don't see it like that. I understand that it just doesn't tell the whole story of the events of TLH. Like, the two Lightwood girls probably became downworlders, that's why they're 'dead' according to it. And some characters may have gotten married with people they don't actually love - but maybe they had a story with these other people before they got married. And those who are married actually got married to those they're married to - but maybe they haven't had the kids with their husbands.
There are endless theories, but I do think the Family Tree shows us some truth, just not all of it.

About the girls that are "dead"- Cassie said on family trees, they didn't put in the girls because they would marry on and not carry the family name. A little bit sexist, but yeah.

Jordan wrote: "Elise wrote: "We might find out in the future because Clare said she was going to make 5 shadowhunter series TMI, TID ,TDA , TLH, and TWP. So I know that TLH is supposed to take place in 1903 and T..."

TLH The Last Hours TWP The Wicked Powers like in the shadowhunter children rhyme

ka wrote: I don't see it like that. I understand that it just doesn't tell the whole story of the..."

kinda like what i said :) tho i'd like to clarify that cassie didn't really say that it's rubbish

****CLOCKWORK PRINCESS SPOILERS****




Did anyone notice in The Clockwork Princess that when Tessa is in the cave with Mortmain she is remembering the people she loves...
"She thought of Charlotte, who wept over Jessamine's death, though Jessie had betrayed her..."
Jessamine passes away and Charlotte weeps over her on page 213. Tessa was taken by the automaton and Mrs. Black on page 207/208. So there's no way she could have known about Jessamine dying or Charlotte weeping??

Am I missing something or is it just a mistake?

Woah, I never noticed that. I just double-checked now and you're right, Tessa didn't even know that Jessamine was dead. She wasn't even near the institute at the time.

Yea it's most probably a mistake. It happens so no worries. Like the time in After The Bridge when Jem called Tessa "Tess" when only Will calls her that. Cassie acknowledged it so yea

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