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message 1: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9529 comments Mod
Need a place to say hi to our friends here at Catching Up on Classics. Use this thread for your random comments & friendly hellos.


message 2: by MK (last edited Jan 10, 2014 09:33AM) (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Free itty bitty (24 pp) Whispersync ebook/audiobook classic this month - How to Live on 24 Hours a Day, by Arnold Bennett, published in 1910:

How to Live on 24 Hours a Day by Arnold Bennett

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008...

A short, yet (according to reviews) both humorous and oddly still relevant, little book on time management. Anybody resolved to "get organized!" this New Year? :-)


message 3: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9529 comments Mod
Thanks, looks interesting.
Have a great New Year Reading!


message 4: by MK (last edited Jan 13, 2014 10:47AM) (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments MK wrote: "Free itty bitty (24 pp) Whispersync ebook/audiobook classic this month - How to Live on 24 Hours a Day, by Arnold Bennett, published in 1910 ..."


This little book is delightful. Chapters VII "Controlling the Mind", and VIII "The Reflective Mood" inspired me to download free kindle titles from authors -

· Epictetus
· Marcus Aurelius
· Blaise Pascal
· Ralph Waldo Emerson

It also suggested La Bruyere, but I could find a free English translation of Les Caractères, so I skipped that one for now.


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Daisy (bellisperennis) @MK - I just watched an interview between a cleric and an intellectual discussing Blaise Pascal. I want to watch a movie by Eric Rohmer "My Night at Mauds" which is supposed to touch on Pascal's writings. This interview was interesting in the discussion, to what extent Pascal's thoughts had impacted the two people.


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MK (wisny) | 2579 comments If you Hachette movie, I'd love to hear how you liked it. Mr. Bennett now just sent me in search of "Aurora Leigh", by Elizabeth Barrett Browning. He says even if you think you can't read poetry, after reading Hazlitt' s essay on poetry, try reading Aurora Leigh.


message 7: by MK (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments watch the*, not Hatchette :-p. Tripped up by the autocorrect!


message 8: by Daisy (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) MK wrote: "In search of "Aurora Leigh", by Elizabeth Barrett Browning."

Poetry is wonderful. I have not read Elizabeth Barrett Browning but would like to. I look forward to reading what you think of "Aurora Leigh."

Once I see the movie, I will definitely let you know how I liked it. :)


message 9: by MK (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments I've never been able to read poetry. I'm looking forward to stretching my mental muscle in this way. but not until after I listen to the recommended Hazlitt essay, "On Poetry In General".


message 10: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9529 comments Mod
MK wrote: "watch the*, not Hatchette :-p. Tripped up by the autocorrect!"

:0)


message 11: by Daisy (last edited Jan 13, 2014 04:43PM) (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) Tytti wrote on different thread: "But if I ever get married, the wedding waltz will be from that movie. http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/artikkelit... "

That is gorgeous. I'm assuming it's a love song? Kansa's voice is beautiful.


message 12: by Tytti (last edited Jan 13, 2014 04:56PM) (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Yes, it's a wedding waltz, made for the movie. Lyrics are quite simple really. And we have some good singers, always had. He's not my favourite but he has some popular songs.

"I looked deep in to your eyes for a long time, for a long time I looked, I looked and thought
Maybe one day we will be married, maybe one day you will be on my side

I looked deep in to your eyes for a long time, for a long time I looked, I looked and thought
"Poverty", sorrows, mutual joy we will share,
Before we disappear into oblivion"

A rough translation.


message 13: by Daisy (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) Tytti wrote: "'I looked deep in to your eyes for a long time, for a long time I looked . . . '"

Wow, that's beautiful. -Thank you.


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Daisy (bellisperennis) Oh . . .

Tytti wrote: "He's not my favourite."

If you don't mind my asking, what are some of your favorites?

A friend of mine, who is Sami, once sent me a link to this song by Sofia Jannok. It's not classic or opera (both of which I love as well as other types of music) but it's lovely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU-np8...


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Tytti | 1010 comments Daisy wrote: "Oh . . .

Tytti wrote: "He's not my favourite."

If you don't mind my asking, what are some of your favorites?"


Heh, well he does have a bit of a reputation (though not that bad)... And he is of an (much) older generation, more of a schlager singer. But he has at least one 1970s hit that they still play at nightclubs.

I don't really have a favourites but for example I liked Nightwish when Tarja Turunen was their vocalist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Fyi... One of their earlier hits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VgLK... Phantom of the Opera

And then there are many bands with great (Finnish) lyrics and some older singers from 1940s to 60s. It depends on my mood what I like to listen to.

I haven't heard of her, but even though it's Sami it's still very Swedish sounding. :D But of course I can't understand anything.


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Daisy (bellisperennis) Tytti wrote: "Nightwish when Tarja Turunen was their vocalist."

She has a strong and beautiful voice. I'd never heard of Nightwish. The countryside in the background of "Sleeping Sun" is gorgeous. I'd love to go trekking through those places.


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message 18: by Tytti (last edited Jan 14, 2014 06:52PM) (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Daisy wrote: "She has a strong and beautiful voice. I'd never heard of Nightwish. The countryside in the background of "Sleeping Sun" is gorgeous. I'd love to go trekking through those places."

They are pretty well known, I think especially in South America, it seems... They have toured in all continents and now have a different singer. And the video is probably filmed in eastern Finland because they are from there. But that's the kind of nature we have all over: lakes and forests, some hills here and there. Less trees and bigger hills in Lapland.

And now you made me get lost in Youtube. :-D But as I said, for many of us lyrics are important. Finnish is quite poetic language if you have a way with words but they are probably gibberish to those who don't know the language. And I guess many Finns like hard rock and metal music more than other countries, so our favourite songs probably don't translate that well. I've been trying to find some nice song, but can't, or find too many. :-) Well, Apocalyptica plays Metallica with four cellos, there's something different. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbToz...

But the Red Army Choir singing Finlandia at the Senate's Square in 1993 in front of 70,000 people is quite nice, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHb4Q... (The first song.) Many Russian songs have been translated to Finnish, I guess we like similar music. Leningrad Cowboys is a Finnish band that has also appeared in Kaurismäki movies. And when you combine those two ensembles you get something... awesome... or weird.

I know Kidjo (she's actually performed with the Cowboys and the Red Army Choir) but maybe it's more "dancing music" to me. (I like different music for listening, dancing, singing...) and I've been to an opera a couple of times (10 euros for a student).


message 19: by Daisy (last edited Jan 15, 2014 04:17AM) (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) Tytti wrote: "Apocalyptica plays Metallica with four cellos."

I just looooove this. I'm going to look into their music much more.

The Red Army Choir and Leningrad Cowboys is great. I've sent the link to a couple friends that I know will like it. My favorite was the beginning of the piece with Finlandia. I enjoy chorales, particularly classical, and have a fondness for military bands and/or fanfare music too. :)

10 euros is a good price for a ticket. Attending opera can be restrictively expensive. The Metropolitan Opera out of New York broadcasts productions simultaneously in theatres. I looked up Finland for the schedule and cities (curious) but couldn't read the site. Duh.


message 20: by MK (last edited Jan 27, 2014 04:50AM) (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments I just came across this in my sci fi / fantasy group. Seemed like a fun link for a classics group:

Can You Guess The Classic Novel From Its First Sentence?


I only knew one for sure! (I didn't try stab in the dark guesses). Obviously, I need to read more classics. I guess I'm in the right place :-p


message 21: by Daisy (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) Hi Tytti,

Just this morning, thanks to recommendation from a friend, I discovered Nine Treasures. Not sure about the lyrics. Are you familiar with this group? I thought you might like them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIHEub...


message 22: by Daisy (last edited Jan 31, 2014 02:37PM) (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) MK wrote: "how you liked it."

The evening before last I finished watching "My Night at Maud's." Unfortunately, I think that some of the references to Pascal passed me by. I'm not that well read on Pascal but the movie was endearing. Éric Rohmer is capable of putting such charm in his films, his themes and characters. I just love the movies made by Rohmer.


message 23: by Tytti (last edited Jan 31, 2014 06:44PM) (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments Daisy wrote: "Are you familiar with this group? I thought you might like them."

Hah, no, I haven't heard from them but they do sound a bit Finnish. But I also prefer to understand at least a bit about the lyrics.

I sometimes get lost in YouTube listening to music and these are some I usually end up listening.

Don Huonot - "Good night and (good) morning"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKqX5...
translated lyrics http://lyricstranslate.com/en/hyvaeae...
Or some of their other songs like "Saint" (with Finnish and English lyrics): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snve3...
Or live in a festival: "Hatemonger (stirrer)" / "Come as you are"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6qR7...

CMX - "Powers and peoples"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUWgP...

Ultra Bra - "Creeper" (the plant)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYWjA...
(Warning: filmed at a Finnish summer cottage, so there is drinking, smoking, swearing, naked people and same sex kissing but nothing that can't be shown to Finnish kids. :D)

One more from UB - "I will protect you from everything"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd8M2...
(With an orchestra, and all their clothes on... :-P)


message 24: by MK (last edited Feb 01, 2014 09:11AM) (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Daisy wrote: "...The evening before last I finished watching "My Night at Maud's." Unfortunately, I think that some of the references to Pascal passed me by. I'm not that well read on..."

Thanks for returning to let me know, Daisy! I've not read Pascal either (although I did download some last month, when I was reading How to Live on 24 Hours a Day, by Bennett), so I'll have to leave this recommend on the bucket list, for the time being ;-).


message 25: by MK (last edited Feb 01, 2014 08:48AM) (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments MK wrote: "Free itty bitty (24 pp) Whispersync ebook/audiobook classic this month - How to Live on 24 Hours a Day, by Arnold Bennett, published in 1910:

How to Live on 24 Hours a Day by Arnold Bennett ..."


This one ^^^^ was still free, as of this morning, but here is a new ebook/audio book Whispersync classic that is available for free download:

A Little Princess by Frances Hodgson Burnett - A Little Princess, by Frances Hodgson Burnett


I'm not sure if this is the 'official' "Free This Month" Whispersync, as Amazon still lists Bennett's How to Live on 24 Hours a Day at that link, but regardless, the A Little Princess pair are free right now :-).

Now if I could just find the time to read/listen ... lol


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Daisy (bellisperennis) Tytti wrote: "some I usually end up listening"

Thank you for sharing these links. It was fun listening to all of this music. UB is just awesome! I love, love, love UB!!


message 27: by Daisy (last edited Feb 01, 2014 04:38PM) (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) Tytti wrote: "translated lyrics"

Oh, I want to mention that these lyrics (Good Night and (Good) Morning) are nice. I have been able to find translated lyrics into French and English for Ultra Bra also. :)


message 28: by Daisy (last edited Feb 01, 2014 04:40PM) (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) MK wrote: "pair are free right now"

Have you read The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett?


message 29: by MK (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments I think just an abridged version when I was a kid, perhaps. Someday, I think I'll read the full novel :-).


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Daisy (bellisperennis) MK wrote: "when I was a kid"

Yeah, I've given reading this one a thought too. I think that similar to my experience with Anne of Green Gables, this was another one I missed when I was a kid. My mom had me reading Shakespeare and Tolkien when I was pretty little and I think I missed many of the youth reads. (Not complaining mind you.) Never read Nancy Drew either and I'm a huge fan of mysteries.


message 31: by MK (last edited Feb 01, 2014 05:36PM) (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Daisy wrote: "MK wrote: "when I was a kid"

Yeah, I've given reading this one a thought too. I think that similar to my experience with Anne of Green Gables, this was another one I missed when I was ..."


I think it was Connie who just read Anne of Green Gables for January challenge ... had me wanting to read them, too! Those I know I missed, for sure. My January challenge book, The Forgotten Garden, couldn't help but remind me of The Secret Garden. The author, Kate Morton, acknowledged that was a favorite book when she was a kid. Ms. Morton inserted Frances as a guest at a garden party, in her novel :-).

I read so many Nancy Drew, and Bosbsey Twins, and some Hardy Boys, too, when I was a kid. Was thinking just recently that it would be fun to reread some of them. AFTER Madeleine l'Engle, and Ruth Chew ^_^.

Shoot, I'd like to reread some Littles, Encyclopedia Brown, and Pippi Longstocking, too :)


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Tytti | 1010 comments Daisy wrote: "UB is just awesome! I love, love, love UB!!"

They took some time to getting used to, their style borrowed from the political left wing music from the 1960s and '70s. The mother of one of the men used to sing them. I think they were at their cottage... And some lyrics were written by a future Minister of Labour.


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Daisy (bellisperennis) Tyttti wrote: "music from the 1960s and '70s"

Interesting info. It would make sense, being drawn to them, given I'm a child of the 60s and 70s.


message 34: by Daisy (last edited Feb 01, 2014 11:24PM) (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) MK wrote: "it would be fun to reread some of them."

It must be different to reread all of these as an adult and have the added experience of a second reading.


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MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Daisy wrote: "It must be different to reread all of these as an adult and have the added experience of a second reading."

So far, I've only reread one title, but I smiled most of the time. Can't really remember my reaction when I was little, so can't compare.


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Shelley | 43 comments For those curious about poetry: I just read Glyn Maxwell's On Poetry, and I found it almost literally jaw-dropping.

I never thought of a defense of poetry like his.

Shelley
http://dustbowlstory.wordpress.com


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MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Shelley wrote: "For those curious about poetry: I just read Glyn Maxwell's On Poetry, and I found it almost literally jaw-dropping.

I never thought of a defense of poetry like his.

Shelley
http://dustbowlstory.w..."


That looks like a wonderful book, Shelley! I really struggle with poetry. I added it to my tbr :)


message 38: by Daisy (new)

Daisy (bellisperennis) Shelley wrote: "I found it almost literally jaw-dropping."

This is really nice. Thank you.


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Daisy (bellisperennis) @ MK

A friend of mine, a young friend, loaned me Thea Stilton and the Dancing Shadows by Thea Stilton. She's read many of the books in this series. At school she is reading Around the World in 80 Days. Since I've recently finished reading this we were able to discuss this book too. :)


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MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Fun! :)


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MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Daisy wrote: "Have you read The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett?"


Haha ... this book just got voted a group read in one of my groups, so I guess I'll try to read it .... sometime soon. Ish. :-p


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Daisy (bellisperennis) MK wrote: "just got voted a group read in one of my groups"

Aahhh, that's funny.


message 43: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9529 comments Mod
We have way too many books that I want to read! And several of them are really long ones too. I am going to have to skip some of them this month -- I do think I'll do the Hitchhikers this month and then start on Moby Dick.

So many books, so little time!!!!


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MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Kathy wrote: "We have way too many books that I want to read! And several of them are really long ones too. I am going to have to skip some of them this month -- I do think I'll do the Hitchhikers this month and..."

I hear ya! I'm skipping David Copperfield due to length, and focusing on digging myself out of the book feast I grabbed too many titles from ;-).


message 45: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9529 comments Mod
I love that line, "book feast"
Awesome!


message 46: by MK (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Kathy wrote: "I love that line, "book feast"
Awesome!"


Heh ... (have you SEEN my 'currently reading' list? Who reads 36 books at the same time ;-). My husband may have me committed soon *snerk* Good thing it's been hockey and football season! Except ... football ended ... )


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Tytti | 1010 comments MK wrote: " Good thing it's been hockey and football season! Except ... football ended ... )"

Well hockey won't for a while. And for me it's gonna be 2.5 weeks of Winter Olympics.


message 48: by MK (last edited Feb 06, 2014 12:20PM) (new)

MK (wisny) | 2579 comments I'm counting on it, Tytti! I need to catch up, somehow ;-). Although, spouse IS worried that a Bruins player will be missing tonight's game because he'll be off carrying the flag for Slovenia (? I think it was Slovenia) in the opening ceremonies ;-), .


message 49: by Tytti (last edited Feb 06, 2014 03:33PM) (new)

Tytti | 1010 comments MK wrote: "I'm counting on it, Tytti! I need to catch up, somehow ;-). Although, spouse IS worried that a Bruins player will be missing tonight's game because he'll be off carrying the flag for Slovenia (? I ..."

Zdeno Zhara? He's from Slovakia. (Slovenia has only one NHL player.) AFAIK all NHL players will be flown there in charter planes on Sunday.
Edit: Oh, I guess he will miss it then. Usually the pick one that's already there. But I guess it's more important to them now (because of what happened in Czechoslovakia), like it was for Finland in 1912. Finns wanted to walk as their own nation but as a part of the Russian Empire had to walk behind the Russian flag. So Finns stayed back a bit and walked behind a unofficial sign.


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MK (wisny) | 2579 comments Tytti wrote: "MK wrote: "I'm counting on it, Tytti! I need to catch up, somehow ;-). Although, spouse IS worried that a Bruins player will be missing tonight's game because he'll be off carrying the flag for Slo..."

I'm bad with names, so can't recall. But I'll ask him in just a little while. I'll get back to you on that ;-)


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