Mortal Instruments & Infernal Devices Lovers! discussion

The first part of the epilogue had my heart breaking and crying continuously, especially when Cassandra Clare mentions when everybody dies,(my heart broke on Will) but than Jem came in and lifted some of that grief away. I think that Tessa will appear in the last book of The Mortal Instruments Series, because Magnus tells her they'll meet agin. Well... The best series I have ever read...

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was so sad that I was moaning a little bit but I was thinking that was in 2008 which is right after COHF

I was sobbing uncontrollably while reading about Tessa and Will's relationship and when he died I literally had to stop reading because I couldn't see through the tears. :-( Then Jem and Tessa...which appears to happen during COHF as he is no longer a silent brother...and Cassandra kinda alluded to his not being a silent brother in COHF which I thought was pretty cool.

I was heartbroken when Will died, even Gideon. Will was my favourite character. I loved his sarcastic manner, and I found his vulnerability in CP somewhat upsetting, knowing BEFORE other characters why he pushed everyone away.
If Will hadn't got what he'd always wanted in the end (to be with Tessa), and if he'd died at the age of 17 in battle against Mortmain, I would have died myself. But he didn't. He and Tessa finally got engaged, had a beautiful family, created happy memories together, and Tessa was with him when he'd died on his bed.
Despite how much I disliked Jem in CP (mainly for how horribly he treated Will) I was really glad he showed up as JEM on Blackfriars Bridge. In the end, it seemed as though everyone got what they wanted.

I really liked the epilogue, even though it was sad and i cried a lot.

I CRIED A RIVER. It was so sad when Tessa talks about Will´s dead!
But i was glad that she and Jem had a chance to be together at the end, although my favorite since the beggining was Will. Hopefully they´ll appear in COHF!!

Honestly I love the epilogue, expect the 15min i spent cry before I could read on.

OMG i really cried when i found out will died! i love this epilogue because it's set on blackfriars bridge in 2008 on one of tessa's yearly meetings with jem and the mortal instruments is set in 2007 so that series kind of links with it and the epilogue answers a few questions that are in the next series of books.

i also hope that clary meets tessa in CoHF and jem (as brother zachariah or when he's cured) tells her and jace the truth about the past and that jace is actually related to will.

I'm sorry but I really hated the epilogue. It had no closure for me. I was fine and totally happy with the ending until that. WILL AND TESSA WERE MEANT TO BE!!!! So it killed me when Will died. But when Jem came back in, it actually made me angrier. I know she was actually originally with Jem, but I couldn't stand it when she kissed Jem!!

Clare destroyed my soul. I was crying when Tessa said everyone would think her bracelet was some cheap knock-off from a costume shop, but Will gave it to her for their 30th anniversary and his hair was starting to gray. I cried when she described Will's death and Tessa said "no one from the outside would understand why an eighteen year old girl would be intimately holding this old man on his death bed, but this was our family and we each understood"- I died when she said everyone was there except Henry and Gideon. I had to stop when Tessa says everyone left because it was time for Will to go, and Jem walks in to perform the ceremony. But he gets his violin that Will and Tessa HAS KEPT FOR HIM AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, and plays about his life with Will: shadow hunting, meeting Tessa, their unconditional love for each other, Tessa and Will naming their first child after Jem, Will demanding that Jem perform the ceremony for their child. Tessa describes all of this and I die. Then she talks about after Will's death and she leaves so she doesn't have to bear the pain of seeing her children, grandchildren, and the rest of the family dying. Her staying with Magnus and how he would wake her out of her dreams and comfort her sobbing in the middle of the night broke me. Describing Jem not being a Silent Brother had me, as well; Tessa running after Jem to tell him that she wants a life with him after so many years destroyed me. Overall, this epilogue destroyed my very being. I cry just thinking about it to this day.

This epilogue was perfection <3

It was so beautiful and the perfect combination of sadness and wonderfulness <3

Cheyanne wrote: "Clare destroyed my soul. I was crying when Tessa said everyone would think her bracelet was some cheap knock-off from a costume shop, but Will gave it to her for their 30th anniversary and his hair..."

i totally agrre there's nothing more saddening than all of this with will and tessa

Cheyanne wrote: "Clare destroyed my soul. I was crying when Tessa said everyone would think her bracelet was some cheap knock-off from a costume shop, but Will gave it to her for their 30th anniversary and his hair..."

Cheyanne you hit all the points that had me bawling as well. I also still tear up thinking about it...it was very well written and so emotionally charged that it made this trilogy prob my all time favourite out there! And sadly I'm still so in love with Will that I will probably never meet anyone in real life who can compare to his character!

The ending was sad but in a way it was almost complete for me. This may sound terrible but I'm not as interested in Tessa and Jem's relationship...I would have liked to have read about Tessa and Will's wedding and their years spent as a happily married couple. i know that we get a glimpse into their life through the Bane Chronicles but not enough for my liking!

Tasheyd wrote: "Cheyanne wrote: "Clare destroyed my soul. I was crying when Tessa said everyone would think her bracelet was some cheap knock-off from a costume shop, but Will gave it to her for their 30th anniver..."

*PRESSING INVISIBLE LIKE BUTTON*

I agree with you, Tasheyd, about Tessa and Jem's relationship. I'm not that interested as I am with Tessa and Will, but I was so caught up in my emotions that I was kind of okay with it... But now I'm not so sure how I feel that Jem and Tessa do get to be together. I love Will, so I don't think any future book character can change my mind on Will.

I have to say I did and didn't like the epilogue. Not because it wasn't a good idea, but because she got together with both of them...Will died....And then Jem....ya.....I still really liked it!

My three direct points with this are:

1. I L-O-V-E Will.

2. I don't like Jem.

3. I'm really not going to ever like this ending because we Will lovers only get a few pages to adore them together before-BAM; Will is gone and Jem is there and I am pissed.

And when I say love Will, I mean that he is my favorite fictional character of all time.

Favorite.

That is very significant.

Icried for an hour, that should explain what I felt, I started crying nealy on the first sentence!!!

i LOVE will so much aswell and in the bane chronicles #4 magnus visits will, jem and tessa and the part about will and tessa made me cry so much- as did the epilogue but at least tessa doesnt have to be alone even tho she is better with will.

I am team Herondale all the way :) Will has stole a place in my heart for as long as I'll live, and when I die, we will be together on the other side. As will Jessamine and Max and Gideon and everyone else in the Shadowhunter world. I don't like the idea of Mortmain, though...

I am not one to cry at books. In fact, I am not one to cry at all. Even when I first began Clockwork Angel I knew Will was going to die in the end, due to spoilers in the reviews. But still, I cried my heart out. I literally could not see the words on the pages through the blur of tears, I was that bad. I don't think I took any of the information after those words, "Tessa had sat beside him on the bed. He'd opened his eyes - those luminous blue eyes that had managed to maintain their luminosity over the years - and he'd smiled, and died." It didn't go EXACTLY like that, but I'm just reminiscing the scene here.
I was really pissed that Jem and Tessa wound up together in the end. I have never been a Jessa shipper, and I have never liked Jem. Will will always remain in my heart.

I was happy that she had a chance with both will and jem but it left me with the question is the epilogue during or after City of Heavenly fire, and whats going to happen next for Jem and Tessa.

the epilogue is after CoHF ;) In the last of the TMI books we will probably find out how jem got cured.

I have this theory that Jace cured Jem with his Heavenly Fire. Hopefully he'll cure Sebastian too.

Yep thats what I think and in TLH we will se more of Wessa because the main characters in those books are James and Lucie Herondale and Matthew Fairchid.

if jace does cure jem with his heavenly fire then that would explain why, in CP2 epilogue, jem doesnt say much to tessa of his cure. i hope that is the case.

I CRIED SO MUCH, IT WAS PERFECT. NUFF SAID.

I almost cried

You ALMOST cried? Please tell me that was autocorrect!
How can you not cry when reading the epilogue? When Will died, he took a part of me with him. I know that sounds rather pathetic, but these characters have really taken to my heart and stole it, and CRUSHED it completely.
I must have been sobbing for at least 2 hours after. So heartbreaking yet absolutely beautiful to read at the same time.

Clary Speakman wrote: "You ALMOST cried? Please tell me that was autocorrect!
How can you not cry when reading the epilogue? When Will died, he took a part of me with him. I know that sounds rather pathetic, but these ch..."

I don't get that emotional when reading books

That's tragic

Clary Speakman wrote: "That's tragic"

I know, I have yet to read a book that makes me start crying uncontrollably. Maybe City of Heavenly Fire.

Oh god. Don't even get me started on CoHF. I know I'm going to drown in my own tears.

Clary, I agree with u 100%! I bawled because it was like I knew them personally and don't even get me started about when Will died...I didn't cry that much with any other book...of course I wasn't totally head-over-heels for any character aside from Will! I get so caught up in these books that its hard to not get emotional...

It was amazing. No matter how much I cried it was very well written and I found it was an amazing ending to the series

i think ill dfo cry at CoHF too, cassy know how to write books well!!!

CoHF is going to make me bawl my eyes out!! Like literally. If Malec don't get back together, if Magnus or Alec die, if Simon, Izzy, Luke, or Sebastian die, I will kill SpongeBob!! I will destroy a pineapple and demolish his home!
Cassie cannot kill Sebastian. I looooooove him!!!!

nooooooooooooo sebastian needs to dieeee! kill him! hes evil!

I take it you don't like my evil bastard sexy Sebastian, then? Huh? Huh?

Well, alrighty then. Death may be required...

HOW CAN YOU LIKE SEBASTIAN

I must admit that I started to like him when he and clary were having their brother-sister moment but after what he did to her in the alley I just- ITS SO WRONG

He needs to die.

Sebastian wouldn't be Sebastian if he wasn't a little dark and cruel on the inside. It's what makes him so damn sexy

SEBASTIAN IS NOT SEXY! my god he really needs to get a life- in hell! where he belongs! i hate his guts! and charleigh, i totally agree, the thing in the alley is horrible, unimaginably wrong!

Clary Speakman wrote: "I take it you don't like my evil bastard sexy Sebastian, then? Huh? Huh?

Well, alrighty then. Death may be required..."

death may be required? death may be... oh its definately required, honey.

There are rumours occurring that Sebastian is going to be in TDA.

He may seem evil and dark, but deep down I really do think he has a heart. I understand Sebastian - I know why he acts the way he does, even more with his sister. Imagine being raised by an evil, power-driven dark Lord who never showed his son any affection or love. Valentine raised Sebastian without any emotion because he knew if he did so then Sebastian would not follow his father's lead. Sebastian doesn't know any different. That's why he is the way he is.
He's completely and utterly alone in the world, and the only person he can relate to is Clary, because they are related, and because he thinks that because they're related then it means they're the same. He is in love with his sister because he thinks she is exactly like him. This is all Valentine's fault because of how he raised him.
People aren't born good or evil. Its how they are raised that effects their future.

yes i just read a different disscusion and apparently he survives but turns good and thats how hes in TDA

I hope he survives. I love my sexy Sebastian

LOL i see why but im not too fond of him

I almost cried which is a big deal as I DO NOT cry reading books

Jazzy wrote: "I finally finished Clockwork Princess.

This is what I wrote in my review, since I am really too lazy to type it all over again: Oh my god. *Tears silently streaming down my face* I. Just. Can't. ..."

Oh, sweetheart. I feel for you. Really I do. Because I went through the exact same thing after reading Clockwork Princess. It broke my heart!
I read it a couple months back, and I still think about Will, even now. I keep telling myself "It's just a book. It's not real. It's just a book." Never works. Never does. And I don't think it ever will.
Even worse, I was listening to music while I was reading. Now every time I hear that specific song, it makes me cry and I'm just rocking back and forth hugging a pillow like "Will. Will... Will...."
Honestly, this journey will remain in my heart forever.