Questioning Society discussion

Why do we give Christianity a pass on discrimination towards homosexuals? Is this not the same thing as a white man hating a black man?

I personally don't. But all three Abrahamic religions seem to have a problem with "teh ghey". So it's not just Christianity.

um... JIll what does teh ghey mean

http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/07/...

And we get the worst. Why can they say no one should be an atheist? Anything else, and there would have been an uproar.

techno wrote: "um... JIll what does teh ghey mean "

Your the master of bad spelling, you should know that.

*you're

But you're right.

shut the hell up Davis it is bad enough you take advantage of girls but now you got to be one you low freak

How exactly does this relate to the topic on hand?

"1109169 shut the hell up Davis it is bad enough you take advantage of girls but now you got to be one you low freak "

You have no idea what you're talking about anyway.

Well, I can't even understand what he's saying. Poor guy just must be awful frustrated.

It's not that hard to type in coherent sentences.

From what I have read on both you and techno's discussions neither one is nor right or wrong.

It is when your as stupid as him.

"Nophoto-m-25x33 From what I have read on both you and techno's discussions neither one is nor right or wrong. '

Golden Mean Fallacy.

Wind wrote: "From what I have read on both you and techno's discussions neither one is nor right or wrong. "

You are techno, we already figured out your little ruse.

What do you mean by ruse I am not following.

Yes, I'm sure your not. Why is that your in all the same groups as techno, have similar books, just signed up this month, and are trying to defend him?

I am not defending no one I am just saying the good and bad qualities of techno.

Hmmm, so why is that when techno is logged out, your logged in and when techno is logged in, your logged out?

oh snap.

Wind wrote: "I am not defending no one I am just saying the good and bad qualities of techno."

Any good qualities techno might possess, "Wind", are completely overshadowed by grammatical incoherence. It's so bad that I actually have him on ignore.

Davis, I really hate to bring this up, but "your" is possessive. "You're" is the contraction of "you are."

I'm a bit "Bob the Angry Flower" about that.

No, not a problem, I do it and need to quit it.

What if I annoy you enough, and you get so tired of it you do it right? X)

It's an unconscious thing at this point.

Then I'll continue my grammarnazi ways. At least it makes me feel better. XD

Well it is the rule when some one is nice to you you be nice to them.

Why is it that every time that techno (in any form) gets involved in a thread, the discussion is lost?

I think that people let that slide because:

1. A majority of people are Christian, so they either agree or can understand where they are coming from. As Christians, even if they don't agree they understand the reasons why people would believe that, because they too hold beliefs based on nothing more than a Bible passage or church tradition. That, added to the fact that they feel more of a sense of community with other Christians than they do with gays makes them more likely to take their side, or at least let them continue in their hatred unimpeded.

2. People are afraid to insult or criticize a person's religion because they feel that would somehow be insulting. For some reason, religion is a relatively taboo subject for debate, and when someone says "that's what I believe" or "faith" or something similar, people are afraid to argue. I'm not really sure why religious beliefs are spared the kind of scrutiny that every other type of belief is subject to, but I think that it is partially to do with religion's relative inability to hold up under scrutiny. People hide behind the label of religion and expect that people will just leave that alone.

3. Everyone is afraid of things that are unfamiliar or things that they don't understand. And if people aren't directly insulting them, they are less likely to care or do anything about it. I guess their attitude is that it isn't any of their business. They seem to have forgotten that "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

Right on, very concise.

To second what Emily wrote, I think it has to do with the popular idea that religious faith is inherently good, so the specifics of those beliefs can't be criticized or even examined. If people were to hold a lot of these same beliefs, but for no apparent reason - such as homophobia, or all the racism in the book of Mormon - they would be considered reprehensible. But if you're hateful for religious reasons, that's not really being hateful, that's being mysteriously loving.

Ya well some people think these have the right to correct others on their beliefs and religion because they can but the one accusing some one of how their beliefs and religion is wrong they don't stop to think what makes it real enough for some one to come in and say it is fake I mean it has to be first real enough for some one to debate and argue over that is may or may not be a real religion to ever exist

techno wrote: "Ya well some people think these have the right to correct others on their beliefs and religion because they can but the one accusing some one of how their beliefs and religion is wrong they don't s..."

You don't even make sense.

nor do you so sop being so mean and grow up jessica

Which part of what I said didn't make sense?

when you correct me thats not your place so you make no sence on doing something you have not rights over

"Ya well some people think these have the right to correct others on their beliefs and religion because they can but the one accusing some one of how their beliefs and religion is wrong they don't stop to think what makes it real enough for some one to come in and say it is fake I mean it has to be first real enough for some one to debate and argue over that is may or may not be a real religion to ever exist"

Just because you assume something is real, doesn't make it real.

And just because you think someone is real doesn't mean that everyone else agrees or should have to put up with your beliefs if they have negative consequences for other people. If I believe that I should kill all black people, other people would still have the right to stop me. If I believe that black people are inferior to whites, people still have the right to say that I am wrong. And, according to the Constitution and common decency, you have no right to make your religious beliefs into laws that govern people of other religions.
Remember what you learned in Civics class: your rights stop where others' rights start. You can do and believe what you like, but when you start harming other people there is a problem.