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Book-wise I like Divergent better. Movie-wise I can't say yet since Divergent isn't out yet.

BlackStar103 {JELL0 4EVER} wrote: "Which book[and movie!] is better?"



Hunger Games

Both.

Neither. Don't like either series (book or movie).

They're both dystopians, that's why.

Bingo.

I read mostly to escape reality and IMO reality is dystopian enough so why would I want to go to a fake dystopia like Panem?

Sorry if I offended.

OK. Thanks.

with the books and movies I think hunger games is better it was written first and was the first start of the dystopian craze and the movies are just way better.

Dillon: Why do we "need" dystopian novels anyway when the RL news is dystopian ENOUGH?

Real Life, BlackStar103.

LOL

I'm laughing because EVERYONE gets that one wrong, eventually.

*BG*

Never mind.

Hunger Games is better. It focuses more on the real issues than on the love story, while Divergent focuses a lot on the love story, that wasn't that good anyways. It didn't give any reason as to why they liked each other, or what they had in common, or anything. The Hunger Games love story wasn't any better, but that really wasn't what the story was about anyways. It was about war, and the effects of it on people, what it will make them do, in desperation. It was about real love, between friends and family. Compassion and caring, even when surrounded by death and destruction. It pushed the limits of people emotionally and mentally. It is a sad and beautifully written story. Divergent is great, but The Hunger Games is amazing.

They're both dystopian. Why bother when reality is dystopian enough already?

Amber wrote: "They're both dystopian. Why bother when reality is dystopian enough already?"

because a lot of people don't realize how bad it is because they only see the small amount of world around them that isn't totally horrible. they don't realize that stuff like this is happening in other parts of the planet.

That's no excuse. It may be the truth, but it's a poor excuse for reading dystopian fiction.

All it means is that they don't watch TV, read newspapers or listen to the radio and therefore don't know anything. Or that if they do, they just don't CARE because they're too self centered and think that the sun shines out of their behinds. Just my opinion about why... not meant to offend anyone.

Amber wrote: "That's no excuse. It may be the truth, but it's a poor excuse for reading dystopian fiction.

All it means is that they don't watch TV, read newspapers or listen to the radio and therefore don't k..."

Okay. Here's a reason to read Dystopian fiction:
Because, unless they're crazy weird, it distracts them from their real lives, but at the same time may be somewhat relatable. Dystopian fiction is not the same as real life now, obviously. We don't have The Hunger Games. We don't have weird experiments, like from Divergent. Sure, we have war, we have death. But that's how it's always been, incase you haven't read a history book. Should we try to change that? Of course we should, but that doesn't mean we should go around being a pessimistic person who offends everyone by saying that they shouldn't read a book because the human race is horrible.

I love Dystopian for the following reasons:

- It's fun
- It's exciting
- It's thrilling
- It's suspenseful
- It's realistic to a degree
- It gives good ideas
- It's not boring
- It's not a romance sapped junk
- The characters are very relatable
- It's big on imagination

Caitlyn «My Friend's a Ninja/\ Be Jealous» wrote: "I love Dystopian for the following reasons:

- It's fun
- It's exciting
- It's thrilling
- It's suspenseful
- It's realistic to a degree
- It gives good ideas
- It's not boring
- It's not a romance..."

exactly.

And as for the question at hand, I say neither. The Testing is best.

Caitlyn «My Friend's a Ninja/\ Be Jealous» wrote: "And as for the question at hand, I say neither. The Testing is best."

the question is which one is better OUT OF THE TWO?

I know

█▓▒░QʊɛɛռArtsy░▒▓█ 402 wrote: "Amber wrote: "That's no excuse. It may be the truth, but it's a poor excuse for reading dystopian fiction.

All it means is that they don't watch TV, read newspapers or listen to the radio and the..."

That's why I AVOID them to distract myself from life. I'd rather read an old fashioned mystery like Sherlock Holmes or something from Asimov's Future History to distract from reality. I just find that the non-dystopian stuff to actually be of better QUALITY both in character development and actual writing.

And yes, I HAVE read history books which is another reason I find reality to be dystopian enough to make me leery of reading dystopian fiction/fantasy. History was part of my self designed triple minor in college.

If we keep reading dystopian crud, we're never going to STOP being horrible. This is my opinion.

Caitlyn, I find more thrills and suspense when I'm reading something like Joanne Fluke's Hannanh Swensen mysteries or Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Holmes. Heck I even find the BIBLE to be much more suspenseful and thrilling than dystopian fiction or fantasy not that the Bile is all that suspenseful or thrilling by comparison unless you're reading the nightmare inducing Book of Revelations (nightmare inducing for me at least). And since when are the situations in a dystopia AT ALL based in realism? I find the Dresden Files to be more realistic than dystopian books are because at least everyone (usually) obeys the laws of physics and thermodynamics in them... .

@ Amber -

First, I'm so very grateful for my own little paragraph. Thank you for that. Now, anyway, note that all books you have described I do not recognize, besides the Bible of course. I do believe the reason for this is because, as I said before, these books we are discussing here are in fact created for the young adult audience. It would make sense for you to dislike them because you are not part of the intended audience.

Secondly, dystopian is borderline realistic and you know it to be true because you said earlier, "Why do we "need" dystopian novels anyway when the RL news is dystopian ENOUGH?"

You're welcome.

I suspect, Caitlyn that even if I were still a member of the intended audience I would still prefer the books I have already mentioned.

If you want to begin reading the other books I have mentioned, here are links to the first book in each of the series.

Chocolate Chip Cookie Murder by Joanne Fluke: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...

A Study in Scarlet by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

Storm Front by Jim Butcher: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

The Caves of Steel by Isaac Asimov (1st book in his Robots series which is part of his much larger Future History series, which also includes the Foundation novels (some of which are set on Trantor...the world that George Lucas said inspired Coruscant in the STAR WARS prequel trilogy) ): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

The Robots series, and the Foundations series are all part of Asimov's Future History series, which I think also includes his book PEBBLE IN THE SKY, which I admit is one of his books I HAVEN'T read yet: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4... One reason I haven't read this one is that it is one of the very FEW Asimov books that contains some dystopian elements, as you will learn when you read the synopsis.

There may have been quite a few dystopian novels running around in the 1950's due to the early days of the Cold War but this is one of the few survivors, so to speak.

Well, you can't know for sure can you?

Amber wrote: "You're welcome.

I suspect, Caitlyn that even if I were still a member of the intended audience I would still prefer the books I have already mentioned.

If you want to begin reading the other book..."

Okay, obviously we just have different tastes in books. Which is fine. You're entitled to your opinion. So, how about this? How about, when you read something, you try to find something good to say about it instead of just judging it based on it's genre. Because inside of a story, are other stories, with deep meaning. And also, read the whole series before debating about it. That would be good. Just stop trying to find something bad in every book that's not a part of your preferred genre. That would be good, too. Because, honestly, you can probably find a flaw in every book of every genre, just like you can find a flaw in everything in the world. At least in someone's eyes.

Good question. This remark was for Caitlyn.

█▓▒░QʊɛɛռArtsy░▒▓█ 402 wrote: "Amber wrote: "You're welcome.

I suspect, Caitlyn that even if I were still a member of the intended audience I would still prefer the books I have already mentioned.

If you want to begin reading ..."

I tend to speak my mind about stuff, period. :) If I come across a book I DO like, regardless of the genre the reviewers THINK it should be in, I say so when I review it. IF I decide to review.

I usually do so by borrowing a trick from my friend Crystal Starr Light. I say "Stuff I liked:" and enumerate the parts I liked, followed by "Stuff I DID NOT Like:" followed by an enumerated list of what I think detracts from the story. Then IF I think the information is going to be relevant to anyone who might be reading my review, I mention the genre the majority of OTHER reviewers think it is, then add my own two bits about what genre I think it should be in and more often than not, my opinion will differ from the majority of other reviewers.

Hunger Games

Hunger games

Neither...for reasons I have already discussed.

Mmmhmm.

Divergent!

Divergent :)

I can't choose.

Hunger Games, although Divergent is brilliant in it's own way as well. I will always love both series.

DIVERGENT. i fell asleep reading the hunger games :$

Suzy wrote: "DIVERGENT. i fell asleep reading the hunger games :$"

how? it's full of suspense. it's like a warzone.

█▓▒░QʊɛɛռArtsy░▒▓█ 402 wrote: " Suzy wrote: "DIVERGENT. i fell asleep reading the hunger games :$"

how? it's full of suspense. it's like a warzone."

Idk! it was like the beginnning and i guess it was a weird intro to a dystopian for me :$ ill probably check them out again later

They're BOTH dystopian. Given my often repeated feelings about THAT subgenre of literature, need I say more?

both

Divergent has too much of a stupid love story in it(which doesn't make any sense, seeing as it never shows them having any common interests or anything that makes them right for each other in any way), while Hunger Games focuses more on the importance and urgency of war.

⊰ mei • ᴡᴇ sᴛᴀʀᴇ ᴀᴛ ʙʀᴏᴋᴇɴ ᴄʟᴏᴄᴋs ⊱ wrote: "the first book in Divergent also focuses on the main protagonist, Tris, trying to find where she belongs and who she is."

which it never fully explains, really.

⊰ mei • ᴡᴇ sᴛᴀʀᴇ ᴀᴛ ʙʀᴏᴋᴇɴ ᴄʟᴏᴄᴋs ⊱ wrote: "p.s. Just because two people don't share common interests, doesn't mean they can't love each other."

Yeah, but it doesn't say why they like each other as more than friends. They were both nice and loyal to each other, which is something friends can be. It doesn't really say why they're attracted to each other in any way. It just doesn't make much sense.

█▓▒░QʊɛɛռArtsy░▒▓█ 402 wrote: "Divergent has too much of a stupid love story in it(which doesn't make any sense, seeing as it never shows them having any common interests or anything that makes them right for each other in any w..."

War is NEVER important. It is merely a moral black hole that wastes money and lives, both military and civilian!