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message 1: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo I have been looking for a book where the magic and wizardry is used at all time. It means a books where wizards rule and magic is the most important thing. I read, harry potter, ursula le guin, george martin, tolkien and the name of the wind but even though those books were awesome, they lack of the magic that I am looking for. So any recommendation I will appreciate. Thanks


message 2: by DavidO (new)

DavidO (drgnangl) You are looking for a book where every single person uses magic?


message 3: by Melanti (new)

Melanti The Codex Alera series by Jim Butcher comes close to that...
Nearly everyone has elemental powers with of elements and strength, and the main character is one of very few people who does not.

Furies of Calderon by Jim Butcher


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Elise (ghostgurl) | 1028 comments Perhaps the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind


message 5: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 53 comments Elise wrote: "Perhaps the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind"

I'd go with that one. magic of some sort going on most of the time.


message 6: by Sam (new)

Sam Griffin the black prsim sounds like what you are looking for


message 7: by Cole (new)

Cole There's also Dragonlance Chronicles and Legends. Any Dragonlance book with Raistlin in it will have magic.


message 8: by Kevin (new)

Kevin I've only read the first book Feast of Souls but the Magister trilogy by C.S. Friedman sounds like it might fit your needs. It's about a class of all powerful wizards (the titular magisters) that use their magic all the time from keeping themselves from getting wet and cold in the rain to obliterating entire armies.


message 9: by Nick (new)

Nick Marsden (nepharid) | 27 comments Though I don't really recommend his work, L.E. Modessit's Saga of RecluseThe Magic of Recluce books are like that. I didn't enjoy them myself, but a lot of people do.


message 10: by Matina (Alassra) (new)

Matina (Alassra) (allasra) Wheel of time series is heavy on magic. The whole plot revolves around magic. Try it if you don't mind reading 14 books and have no problem with long descriptions.


message 11: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Sam you are the 3rd person that has recommended me that book. I going to check it. Thanks


message 12: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Zaine thanks but I already read that trilogy


message 13: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo Cole i read the legends. Maybe i should read the chronicles. Thanks


message 14: by Guillermo (new)

Guillermo David I was looking a book i think like harry potter, but with more action ( here is where I want to read about power and magic) and more mature than HP. And With a good plot of course.


message 15: by Mary (new)

Mary Catelli | 815 comments L. Jagi Lamplighter's Prospero Lost, Prospero in Hell, and Prospero Regained -- she has a rule where if she can make it magic, she will make it magic

Howl's Moving Castle by Diana Wynne Jones is pretty thick with magic

The Treachery of Beautiful Things by Ruth Frances Long also has a lot, though it's often inherent rather than a wizard's picked up skills

The big problem with books with lots and lots of magic is that the magic starts to seem hohum. I mean, how thrilled do you get about your dishwasher, or an airplane? So writers generally stint rather than ladle it on.


message 16: by Feral (last edited Mar 24, 2014 10:04AM) (new)

Feral Mary wrote: "The big problem with books with lots and lots of magic is that the magic starts to seem hohum. I mean, how thrilled do you get about your dishwasher, or an airplane? So writers generally stint rather than ladle it on. "


It's not the size--it's what you do with it. Always true. :)

If there is a lot of magic in the background (or a lot of advanced tech) the story has to carry itself in that setting--everyone has big guns. What is important is some kind of cost or consequence that stops everyone from being omnipotent. Otherwise we get Mary Sues and Merline Stues.


message 17: by Edward (last edited Mar 24, 2014 07:49AM) (new)

Edward Lazellari Mary wrote: "The big problem with books with lots and lots of magic is that the magic starts to seem hohum. I mean, how thrilled do you get about your dishwasher, or an airplane? So writers generally stint rather than ladle it on.">


Mary, I whole heartidly agree. That's why Game of Thrones is one of my favorite series. The real magic is kept to a minimum and the interpersonal drama between characters really drives the story.



message 18: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) Maybe 'The Magic Goes Away' series by Niven & Pournelle?

Larry Niven

The Magic Goes Away


MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 325 comments I love lots and lots of magic - but the authors who do it best are the ones who place a limitation on their characters' magical abilities.

David Eddings' magic requires a lot of energy - they have to stop after a period of time. And I noticed there's no magical healing. There's doctoring but no healing.

Mercedes Lackey also limits her characters' magical abilities and her limits are two fold: the limits of the magic user's internal ability and the limitations of the magical force (in this case Nature) stores.


message 20: by Katie (new)

Katie Montgomery (katiemontgomery) I have to second the Diana Wynne Jones rec -- and not just Howl's Moving Castle, but really any of her books. I think you would actually probably get a bigger kick out of the Dark Lord of Derkholm, just from looking at what you've already read.


message 21: by Marc (new)

Marc (authorguy) | 393 comments Guillermo wrote: "David I was looking a book i think like harry potter, but with more action ( here is where I want to read about power and magic) and more mature than HP. And With a good plot of course."

Try Trudi Canavan. She has a series beginning with The Magician's Apprentice that I always thought of as a somewhat more mature Harry Potter.


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