Finnegans Wake Grappa discussion

So, an intriguing thesis-essay in Twelve and a Tilly: Essays on the Ocassion of the 25th Anniversary of Finnegans Wake, "James Joyce and the Macaronic Tadition" (but has not aged well). This to do with the way JJ builds words, always has, even since Stephen Hero days. A pinch of Latin, a sprinklchen of English (in my practice I usually do a thing with German and a dash of English or vice=versa). But rather than my words, here's the wikipedia :: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaronic See also the "See also" section of that page.

I think I have to revisit the essay with a pencil in hand to possibly recover a lost macaronic title or two.

HINT: Rabelais had a spot for the macaronic too.

Babbelars with their tanghas....You tollerday donksk? N. You tolkatiff scawegien? Nn. You spigotty anglease? Nnn. You phonio saxo? Nnnn. Clear all so! Tis a jute. Let us swop hats and excheck a few strong verbs weak oach eather....
I lifflaff it all

McHughless but not quite McClueless in ballyaughacleaghbally

Fionnuala wrote: "McHughless but not quite McClueless in ballyaughacleaghbally "

I think we need a name for this kind of McQueless Wake reading. Maybe, Wakius Classicus or Finnegan Originaliter or First Generation Finnegans or Primum Finneganessium. Something recognizing the reading as a reading like unto the First Who Ever Waked, circa 1923-. Portrait of the Waker as a First Reader kind of thing. Whaddya thunk?

I say cead mealy faulty ricesto your brainathon, Nathan.

I'm certainly tempted to go on reading McQueless - it's a lot more fun than double checking the annotations constantly. I'm reading a downloaded version at the moment but when I get back to my Oxford with its chapter summaries, I might just be able to continue this way with the help of the notes.
It's how you started out, isn't it? So it can be done...

Fionnuala wrote: "It's how you started out, isn't it? So it can be done... "

Friend James, in relation to reading McElroy's Women and Men without aid (and no choice about it!), called this kind of reading 'untethered'. I did tether myself up around page 120 with, let us say, mixed results. There being a minimum of three layers -- the Viconian theocratic, aristocratic, & democratic -- I'm not sure how much of which layer I did and didn't get as a fault of having McHugh'd the whole way through (I re-restarted when Hugh arrived ; and I'm weighing how I'll restart when I next riverrunstart).

But you didn't like my grotesque pomposities in granting Titles of Knighthood to such a courageous undertaking? (those first-gen readers have my uttermostest respect).

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Fionnuala wrote: "It's how you started out, isn't it? So it can be done... "

Friend James, in relation to reading McElroy's Women and Men without aid (and no choice about it!), called this kind of reading untethered.."

Joyce would have had fun with the word untetherd! Téter in French means to suckle/be suckled.

Wakius Classicus or Finnegan Originaliter or First Generation Finnegans or Primum Finneganessium

Like the sound of Wakius Classicus, yes, WC..
Hoping your knighting arm is hefting a Wilkinson soord!