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Your point 2, now that I'm reading your notes, it occurs to me how hypocritical Cersei is being. When her father tells her she will marry she goes postal, but now she's telling Sansa to suck it up. And I think Sansa handled it better than Cersei did. Maybe it's because she hasn't already gone through it before like Cersei has. Your point 5, true, but I don't think she made it any easier on him. She unknowingly fed into Joffrey's cynical humor. I'm glad she quickly realized her folly, that she was punishing the wrong person by her reluctance.
Your point 11, yeah, there's something up with his eyes. I wonder what it means.
1. Sansa is fitting into her new gown and loves it. Then Cersei gives her a maiden’s cloak, which she did not expect. Cersei tells her she’s going to marry Tyrion, like right now, lol. How horrible for Sansa. Her silly hopes and dreams smashed yet again by the Lannisters. Lol, Cersei says she understands her reluctance and would feel the same if she were her. Cersei says she will marry either gracefully or kicking and screaming. Surprisingly Ser Osmund Kettleblack is gentle with Sansa, unlike Meryn Trant. He reminds her to be brave; she’s a Stark. She realizes Tyrion is not so bad as the other Lannisters and agrees to go.
2. Ugh, Joffrey is to give her away to Tyrion; he is loving this. What a horrible little twit. Tyrion, once again, saves Sansa from having to deal with Joffrey. He apologizes for all of this. He’d have come to her sooner about it if he knew. Neither of them want this. I forgot Sansa has the opportunity to reject Tyrion and marry Lancel instead. I wonder why she doesn’t. Either way, Tywin will marry her to a Lannister. Sansa knows he just wants Winterfell. Tyrion tells her he knows he’s not the ideal person she’d like to marry but he’s not like Joffrey either, that’s sweet. She acknowledges he was always kind to her.
3. They go together to the sept. Sansa realizes none of the Tyrells are here. They did this without them knowing. She cries silently throughout the sermon. She hates that Joffrey is taking the place of her father. He gives her a feelski as he takes her cloak off, as is tradition, perv. Tyrion is supposed to wrap his cloak over her, but no one gave him a stool so Sansa needs to kneel for him to reach. Out of anger, she stubbornly refuses to kneel, one of the few times I dislike Sansa in the series. It’s not his fault, and you’re embarrassing him. Everyone laughs, especially Joffrey. He makes fun of his uncle by calling for Ser Dontos to be his stool; a fool for a stool. :( When she turns to see his face she is suddenly ashamed. Now she kneels so he can kiss her. She thinks he’s uglier than the Hound.
4. I find it interesting how the septon says “...cursed be the one who comes between them.” *SPOILER FOR UPCOMING CHAPTERS IN A STORM OF SWORDS* (view spoiler)
5. The feast holds about only 50 people, a very small wedding. The Tyrells make it to this, at least. Margaery looks so sad, awe. Her friends now pretend not to know her, treacherous bitches. Tyrion keeps drinking and also looks miserable. Sansa dreads what will happen after the party: the bedding. Tyrion’s naked body is bad enough without men throwing her clothes off as they take her to the bedchamber, making rude jokes along the way. How awkward, even if it IS with the man you want to marry. And what woman would want to take off Tyrion’s clothes, other than Shae.
6. Everyone is dancing except the newlywed couple. Cersei charms them all with her dancing and grace, but Sansa hates her. Ser Garlan dances with Sansa. I forgot Willas named Ser Garlan the Gallant. Back when he was a kid he was apparently ugly. He manages to get her to laugh. The Tyrells seem like good people. He quietly says she seems unhappy about the marriage; she looked like she was crying earlier. “Tears of joy, ser.” Strangely, Ser Garlan tells Sansa that Tyrion will make a much better husband to her than Ser Loras, interesting he didn’t say Willas. He says Tyrion is bigger than he seems. He is now the second person to say that. Maester Aemon said the same thing in GoT.
7. Funny Tommen should say he wants to be married too. ;) Oh gods, she has to dance with Joffrey next. Of course he says he’s still going to have her. He boasts Tyrion himself will be the one to bring her to him, or he’ll have his head, ugh. After the dance Joff is way too eager to start the bedding but Tyrion blessedly calls off the bedding tradition. When Joff commands it, Tyrion threatens to cut off his prick, lol. No one thinks that’s funny though. Thankfully, Tywin does damage control, saying Tyrion didn’t mean it, it was a joke, right Tyrion? He’s drunk. Tyrion reluctantly goes along with it. Lol, “Come, wife, time to smash your portcullis. I want to come-into-your-castle.” Poor Sansa is so embarrassed right now.
8. No one follows them to the bedchamber. Inside, Tyrion and Sansa both want to get very drunk, lol. Tyrion drunkenly talks about his wedding with Tysha, charming. Sansa didn’t know he was married before. Sansa will be 13 in a month. Tyrion is disgusted by this fact. He’s not down with fucking children, and Sansa’s empty courtesies only anger him.
9. She takes her own clothes off while he watches. Despite himself, Tyrion does want her, even though she’s just a child. He says he’s ugly but in the dark he’s as good as any other man, lol. He keeps talking about how good he is as a person and she realizes he’s as nervous as she is. I forgot he actually touches a breast. Though he’s hard, he says he can’t do it. I respect him so much for saying they need to wait first and get to know each other before getting physical. I also like that Septon Mordane once said all men are beautiful. She tries to see past his ugliness now. He vows he won’t touch her until she wants him to. Sansa asks what if she never wants him to, and Tyrion says that’s what whores are for, lol, awe. Poor guy. At least she’s being honest with him now. I really hope they learn to love each other!
I think Cersei is hypocritical as she can get this chapter, but it might have to do with what you say about Sansa reacting not as bad as Cersei did when her father told her to marry again. She didn't have a great marriage, and she could have been a little nicer to Sansa, but I don't think she cares to be honest.Yeah, that's why all started laughing. And Joffrey enjoyed it, although I don't think she would have done it if she knew Joofrey would have liked it. But she had a lot in her mind at the time.
I didn't think of the spoiler in your point 4, but I do hope it happens.
About your point 9, I really hope they love each other! Tyrion has a really kind heart, and so does she.
2-Sansa said she won’t marry, and Cersei told her Joffrey was in her father’s place, and can marry her with whoever he wants. You can’t help but hate them here. Cersei told her she could cry, but will marry and be bedded anyway. She had to choose if do it like a lady or put up a show. I have to say, Sansa took her pretty well, they destroyed her dreams, and she acted quite well, even though all she wanted to do was crying.
3-Sansa remembered when Tyrion helped her, and he wasn’t as bad as the rest. She decided she would do it as a lady. Good for her, they didn’t have a show they would have probably enjoyed. Joffrey is such a fucker here; he told Sansa he was her father that day, wtf? She said he won’t be, ever, and he told her he can do what he wants, and maybe he’ll marry her to Illyn Payne. I hate him so much!
4-Tyrion talked to her, and I really like what he said, he was really kind to her. He knew she didn’t want to marry, and though he didn’t want either, his father ordered it. I forgot they would have marry her to Lancel, and Tyrion told her she could refuse to marry him and marry his cousin instead. Sansa would do her duty and marry him like the king wanted. Tyrion told her he was not Joffrey, and she said she remembered. That’s good. It’s not easier for any of them, but Sansa gets the worst I think. She had dreamed about her weeding and the man she’ll marry for so long, and they were marrying her to a Lannister, and an imp besides.
5-In the ceremony the members of the kingsguard were there, except for Loras. Sansa noted all the Tyrells were missing. When they changed cloaks, Joffrey took hers off and touch a breast in the way because he just can do so. I understand why Sansa didn’t knelt like Tyrion wanted it, maybe it was her way to show how she felt. Tyrion kept tugging her skirt and Cersei laughed, ugh. Then all were laughing, and Joffrey ordered Dontos to help his uncle. So Tyrion had to stand over Dontos’ back, and he was red. When Sansa saw him, she was ashamed, but even if Tyrion was ashamed as well, I don’t think he was mad at her.
6-They said the vows and kissed, and went to the feast. Margaery was there, and she gave Sansa a sad look. Lady Olenna didn’t look at her, and neither did her friends. Tyrion drank more than he ate, and she didn’t even eat. She wanted the feast to end, but she was afraid of the bedding. The tradition is quite weird, and I remembered it quite well. Although I forgot people listened behind the door.
7-Sansa asked Tyrion if they should begin the dance, but he said they gave them enough amusement for that day. So, Joffrey and Margaery lead. All were dancing, Cersei was laughing and Sansa hated her. How could she be laughing? Garlan Tyrell invited Sansa to dance, and it was good she was happy for a little while. I forgot he said Tyrion would be a better husband than Loras, and he was a bigger man than he seems. I really like that, not everyone thinks Tyrion is good.
8-Later Joffrey was her partner, and he told her he would have her wherever he wanted, and if Tyrion didn’t take her to his bed, he would cut his uncle’s head. I just can’t with this asshole.
9-Joffrey said they should start with the bedding, but Tyrion said they wouldn’t have one. He threatened Joffrey, and I loved it, I can’t lie; but it wasn’t smart. Tywin said there was no need to do it, and surely Tyrion didn’t mean to threat the king. Tyrion replied he misspoke, but he kept being disrespectful, which I guess is his way to protest.
10-They were given a room in the Tower of the Hand, and Tyrion asked for wine, he wasn’t drunk. Sansa drank too. I forgot he told Sansa about his first weeding. Tyrion said he married Lady Tysha of Silverfist, and of course Sansa didn’t get what he meant. I wonder why he told her though, but I liked it.
11-Sansa was about to be 13, so she was a child. He told Sansa to take off her armor of courtesy, which I like. She’s not used to being so honest all the time though, but maybe he implied she could be honest with her. Sansa got naked, and this was really interesting: “There was hunger in his green eye, it seemed to her, and fury in the black.” She was afraid he wanted her, and he started to tell her how he wasn’t so bad. Sansa could tell he was as frightened as she was. I forgot he said he could be the Knight of Flowers with the lights out. Maybe he said that because Loras was beautiful, I don’t think he knew she loved him like Garlan did.
12-Sansa didn’t answer and just lay there, she didn’t know what she was expected to do. Aww, poor kid! Tyrion told her to look at him, and I liked she tried to find beauty in him. I really loved Tyrion told her he couldn’t so it, and how he was willing to wait after she knew him and maybe trust him a little. This made me love him even more, most would just made her open her legs. Tyrion told her he wouldn’t touch her until she wanted him, on his honor. Sansa asked what if she never wanted him, and he replied that’s why there were whores for people like him. It was really sad though.