Read A Song Of Ice And Fire 2016 discussion

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I quite like Arya, simply because she rejects the femininity that is thrust upon her by the culture of Westeros. When sewing, I don't think she is angry because she isn't able to do the things that come so easily to Sansa, she's angry because these things are expected of her and she feels trapped, having no choice than being something she isn't.

Another thing I noticed, was that both Jon and Arya left a room upset, and feeling out of place only to leave with their direwolves.

And, of course my favourite quote by Jon, "Joffrey is truly a little shit."

Hannah wrote: "I quite like Arya, simply because she rejects the femininity that is thrust upon her by the culture of Westeros. When sewing, I don't think she is angry because she isn't able to do the things that..."

Well said Hannah. I completely agree with all you have said. Especially your quote about the little shit!

These characters are both so likable. No wonder they are favorites.

Arya reminded me in this chapter of something a friend told me years ago about when she was 13 and got her first period. She got mad and wanted no part in that nonsense. She told her Mom she was not going to school that day and stayed home and shot gophers with her '22! lol

♫ ♬ ♪ Leslie (aka Basesloaded32) wrote: "Hannah wrote: "I quite like Arya, simply because she rejects the femininity that is thrust upon her by the culture of Westeros. When sewing, I don't think she is angry because she isn't able to do ..."

That story is absolutely brilliant. I can definitely see why she reminds you of Arya.

thoughts while reading:
Arya and Sansa are so opposite! Arya seems to really like Jon. She doesn't really talk bad about him and seems to have actual conversations with him.
Sansa is the good girl-listens to her elders and does the things that are expected of her without complaint.
I love how Ghost is now bigger than the other pups when he started out as the runt.
I wonder if Ned had said that Jon was a foster of sorts (kind of like Theon) if people would respect him a bit more.
Joffrey acts like he's older than Robb, but he's not. In the show their age difference seems like much more than just 2 years.

Oh I missed that part about Ghost. That is something very optimist for Jon.

♪ Leslie (aka Basesloaded32) wrote: "Oh I missed that part about Ghost. That is something very optimist for Jon."

I think so too! It seems like George R.R. Martin is a very big fan of foreshadowing.

Im sure George is a huge fan of foreshadowing, every action and thought in his books usually mean two things instead of one.
I believe Ghost is the animal representation of Jon, even though he is different and the runt of the litter at first (much like Jon being the social runt of the Stark children) he will grow to be the strongest member of the pack because of his royal blood and courageous spirit.
I love the relationship Jon and Arya have with each other, they are the two closest siblings in this story and show the importance of family in the times to come.

We don't yet know weather there is any royal blood in Jon. Yes, it seems very likely, but knowing GRRM he can screw with our expectations in a heartbeat.