Read A Song Of Ice And Fire 2016 discussion

Discuss.

What I like about this chapter was that Summer knew what was going to happen to Bran! That direwolf is quite intelligent.

Also, what I want to figure out:

"The things I do for love," he said with loathing.

Why did Jaime say this with loathing? Does he loathe pushing Bran out of the tree? Does he hate the situation? Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it seemed quite significant when I read it.

Also, why did he ask Bran's age?

My thoughts:

1) "The things I do for love"
I think he is meaning that he loves his twin sister but not in a brotherly way....yuck! and is willing to throw a kid out the window and kill him just to be with her in secret.

2) Bran's age
I think he wants to know how old he is so that he will know whether or not the kid understands what they were doing. Does he understand they were having incestuous sex or not? He maybe also asked his age to see if he could be trusted to keep his mouth shut. We all know kids can't keep secrets.

That is how I interpreted it anyway.

thoughts while reading:
Does Bran ever name his wolf?
I feel like this represents the traditional theory (?) of hubris. He's always saying he never falls and won't fall, but we all know what happens...
Bran is definitely an adventurer which makes what happened all the worst.
It seems like a few of the major events that create this domino effect are all based in assumptions and you know what they say lol (assumptions make an ass out of you and me).

Yes, he names him later in the book. The story is quite interesting.
I think 'hubris' is too strong a word for Bran, he's just a kid, after all, it's normal of him to think that if he hasn't fallen yet, he never will. And he is quite good at climbing, he's been doing it for so long, after all.
As for what Jamie says: Thank you for pointing it out. His character changes a lot in the later books and I can't elaborate on it, because of spoilers, and it's not important now anyway, we'll probably discuss it when reading the other books, but I always thought it was a bit sudden and unprepared. That sentence proves me wrong.

This scene of the novel is where the first episode of the tv show ended, it was at that point i fell in love with this series and bought book 1 off the internet.

Chappy wrote: "This scene of the novel is where the first episode of the tv show ended, it was at that point i fell in love with this series and bought book 1 off the internet."

Yes that moment in the show sucked me in as well.

Re reading this chapter is upsetting when you know what will happen but it's also one of the best. GRRM piles on layers of misdirection by just telling us all Bran's dreams and why he loves climbing.

Then Jamie saying "the things I do for love" while simultaneously shoving Bran out a window is such WTF moment.

I hated Jamie from the moment he shoved Bran out the window.

Omar wrote: "Then Jamie saying "the things I do for love" while simultaneously shoving Bran out a window is such WTF moment."

Yes it absolutely is.

But I still love Jamie. I know I am weird.