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A Dance With Dragons ~ 17. Jon IV *Discuss only this chapter and anything prior

hmmm. Jon must have a soft spot for the wildlings for taking them and can't feed them or he is really ambitious to get rid of the Boltons.

Jon knows the lands very well and he seems very smart and very cautious. I think he still leading Stannis to his doom.

I wonder why Melisandre is staying at Castle Black? What is her purpose?

I like the way Jon insisted that Sansa was still a rightful heir of Winterfell no matter how Stannis tried to make it otherwise. Also I was a bit taken aback by how much Jon knew about the Northerners and the lands, like whoa! where did you learn all these stuff somehow it kinda made me missed Ned and Maester Luwin, they were great guys.

This chapter is making me hungry with all this talk of food.
I wonder why Rattleshirt ended up with a ruby on his manacle (which is like a handcuff right?).
Hmm... how and why did she bind him to her?
"Words might not be swords, but swords were swords."

;) hehehe

So he is keeping the wildlings at the wall because he is afraid of what happens if Stanis brings them inside the wall right? And he gets stuck with creepy Milasandre as a babysitter. Yuck. I wish she would go with Stanis. I don't like the idea of her staying behind.

Jon is helping Stannis too much for a Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. But then again, he's the only one who answered their call for help. I don't know. I've forgotten the details of what happens next, but I think I'm ready for this story to be over. So please, Martin, publish TWoW some time this year.

I don't think Jon is leading Stannis to his doom - I think he's trying to help Stannis but also help himself at the same time. By the way, those provisions at the Dreadfort would sure help at Castle Black, wouldn't they...?

I think Melisandre has either cut a deal with Rattleshirt or he's somehow under her control. Either way, she seems to have a use for him and wants him near Jon.