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Doomsday Book (Oxford Time Travel, #1)
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2017 Reads > DB: Damn You Connie Willis! (spoilers)

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Steve (plinth) | 179 comments One of the techniques used by Penn and Teller when doing a magic trick with live animals is to make the audience fall in love with the animal before they do something horrible to it. Sometimes it easy, like with a bunny which goes into a wood chipper. Bunnies are naturally cute and lovable. Other times, it's harder like with a snake that gets cut in half. Fewer people like snakes, so it's harder to get as much of an emotional reaction.

Willis had a somewhat easier task in that the villagers and nobility are human (and not much of our behavioral essence really changes) so there is a natural empathy. At the same time, we know inherently that since these people are from the 14th century, they're dead anyway, so why care?

So she (view spoiler)


message 2: by Sa (new) - rated it 1 star

Sa | 4 comments Sorry. I Lem'd this book. I couldn't get more Than halfway thought it. She went to the same well too many times on what the problem was and not giving answers. I did not finish it, but I guess the main character is responsible for bringing the plague to that time period.


Bruce (bruce1984) | 41 comments Steve wrote: "One of the techniques used by Penn and Teller when doing a magic trick with live animals is to make the audience fall in love with the animal before they do something horrible to it. Sometimes it e..."

I thought Willis did a great job with this aspect of DB. It's one thing to read history about the plague, about how one-third of the population died. But Willis helped us to come a bit closer to living the tragedy through the eyes of Kivrin. It made me appreciate a bit more what those people had to endure.


Tina (javabird) | 765 comments Bruce wrote: "Steve wrote: "One of the techniques used by Penn and Teller when doing a magic trick with live animals is to make the audience fall in love with the animal before they do something horrible to it. ..."

I thought that was effective. I got to care about the characters and what it must have felt like to deal with a disease they didn't understand, the confusion and the superstition. (view spoiler)


message 5: by Tassie Dave, S&L Historian (last edited Nov 24, 2017 12:24PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Tassie Dave | 4076 comments Mod
Sa wrote: "I did not finish it, but I guess the main character is responsible for bringing the plague to that time period. "

No, She wasn't. She was ill with the sickness from the future, but the people of that time period were immune from that illness for reasons that are explained. (view spoiler)

She couldn't have brought it anyway. Connie's convoluted rules, that don't allow Paradoxes that will change or affect history, wouldn't have let her enter that time period.

The plague came from Asia. Kivrin arrives many years after the plague started and after it has already reached that part of England.


message 6: by Sa (new) - rated it 1 star

Sa | 4 comments Sorry. The writing was extremely annoying to me. I couldn’t stand the constant “there’s a problem, but I won’t tell you what it is” writing. I tried to push through, but that ruined the story. Plus I will now cry shenanigans that those people were immune from that disease she brought back. I’m even more glad that I Lem’d it now knowing that. That would have made me mad to have to make the assumption that these people would have been immune just because it was present in a tomb from before that time period. Especially with how slow it travelled through the more modern and crowded populace of the future. Shennanigans.


message 7: by Tom, Supreme Laser (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tom Merritt (tommerritt) | 1195 comments Mod
Sa wrote: "Sorry. The writing was extremely annoying to me. I couldn’t stand the constant “there’s a problem, but I won’t tell you what it is” writing. I tried to push through, but that ruined the story. Plus..."

The problem does get resolved. That's the end of the book.


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