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Section 2

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Just barely started this section but Had to come here and squee for joy. Avasarala! 🎉♥️

I'm nearing the end of this section, and I'm greatly disappointed that Avasarala hasn't shown up again, but I'm otherwise enjoying it.

It's looking like the Rocinate may never fly again, but we'll see how it goes. Holden, Bobbie and crew are now with Drummer's husband Sabu as part of the resistance.

There is some interesting commentary on how Bobbie isn't taken seriously until Holden shows up and vouches for her. Bobbie decides to use that to her advantage and has Holden pass her plan off as his own.

I initially liked Singh, or at least I was willing to give him a chance, but his actions in this section have me liking him less and less. It's bad enough he's helping to enforce as Naomi put it "The nicest Totalitarian Government in History", but his reaction to the assassination attempt was a dumb move.

Interesting conversation with Singh's superior. He seems to have maybe learned from his mistake, but I still don't like what he's trying to accomplish. I guess it's nice to have a more nuanced villain in this book since Marcos in the last one was very easy to hate/root against.

I was thinking the same thing about Singh - Marcos was so over the top bad - and Singh is occasionally sympathetic. His reaction WAS a dumb move, but the dumbest was just ignoring the voice of experience and feeling threatened by it instead.

I think the whole Bobbie/Holden thing was interesting, and it made me admire Bobbie even more. Instead of getting all upset and threatened by Holden's presence, she uses it to get things done. I suppose her reaction is helped a bit by the many years that have passed (/cry) in his company.

I too am sad that Avasarala seems to be more of a cameo role in this book.

It's interesting that people read Singh as being sympathetic. He gets introduced as being someone who feeds his superior to a protomolecule-infection lab because he shows a little more mercy than the letter of the law.

The fact that he loves his wife and daughter is frankly a low bar to clear. I'm sure Nazis loved their families too. And he's the sort of political zealot that reminds me of how the Nazis are portrayed.

I was thinking today that Singh kind of reminds me of Gedar in The Dagger and the Coin series - then kind of connected that it's half the same author.

Good point Lindsay - he is indeed a zealot. Ok, no more sympathy from me!

Yeah, that's a good point. I guess I didn't think much about the significance of what he did.

I'm not even close to finishing this section yet but I need to FREAK TF OUT RIGHT NOW cause there's a Brooklyn Nine-Nine Easter Egg! Bobbie, Amos, Alex, and Clarissa are waiting in line to board the Roci to get their things and there's a group in front of them wearing jumpsuits that say, "Charles Boyle Gas Transport" and I AM SO DEAD OMG I LOVE IT MORE THAN ANYTHING.

Okay I feel better now.

Edit: Okay it's from gas law but I prefer the 99 reference and I'm sticking to it. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/c...

I don't know what any of that means, but I'm glad you're excited!

I don't know either - but I LOVE you are finding Easter Eggs in the book (and enjoying it).

Everybody! Go watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine and thank me later okay awesome :thumbsup:

Dara wrote: "Everybody! Go watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine and thank me later okay awesome :thumbsup:"

I want to but I think it's only on Hulu which I don't have/pay for :(

I saw someone say it was on Netflix but that must be outside the US..