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Wurts - Wars of L&S & More > Warhost of Vastmark [Jun 15, 2019]

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message 1: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 5178 comments Mod
June 15th.


message 2: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Innnnn...as long as the first two go down well!


message 3: by Mayim (new)

Mayim de Vries | 2948 comments This is going to be epic.


message 4: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments I should be on track to start this on Friday/Saturday. Where’s everyone else at? Still working on Ships?


message 5: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (vinjii) | 1144 comments I should be able to join this by the 20th!


message 6: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Starting this early!


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jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Post Ch 1

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message 8: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Kind of blown away by the first section of III. Vastmark.
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message 9: by Mayim (new)

Mayim de Vries | 2948 comments I am done with Ships and quite looking forward to Vastmark but I need to do Stonewielder first. Hopefully, this month is going to be easy on my reading and I will catch up witch you.


message 10: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments I didn't get any notifications for this thread till now. :(
Sorry I'm late but I'll be here.

@Mayim - How did you like Ships?

@Jess - I'll ask Janny to answer that for you since I don't know how to without spoiling. Glad you like this so far. It will get more and more intense as you read. Every ARC is the same. Breakneck pace in the end.


message 11: by Mayim (new)

Mayim de Vries | 2948 comments It has been a very reflective read, Laura. To this point that my review does not make sense unless someone has already read the book.


message 12: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments I didn't even see your review lovely. I missed it, just like so many other things. (*sigh Will go check now. Life has had me bouncing like an energiser bunny lately and I may just missplace my head if it weren't connected to my neck.


message 13: by Mayim (new)

Mayim de Vries | 2948 comments I’m in a he same boat. Just fresh out of hospital and recuperating very slowly. Sending hugs your way.


message 14: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments thank you lovely! :)
Please accept a few big strong hugs from my side too! Hope all will go well for you! (*sending gently a sweet flying kiss your way* - be well!!)


message 15: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Stonewielder is a great excuse!!! Look forward to your feelings on that one. I thought is was good, but not better than RoCG.

Laura, I definitely dont want spoilers. It’s ok if there are no good answers. Im willing to wait for them!


message 16: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments Hi Jess,

Janny answered your question with no spoiler. Those spoiler tags are for previous books so it's safe to read. Hope it helps.

"The answer to this one is pretty straightforward, but probably requires a clear recall of the mentions and events leading up to the crisis moment.

I will give a chronological rundown of what led to the problem under spoiler tags:

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message 17: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments Is anyone still reading this? I am at chapter set 7 and loving it just as much as last time.


message 18: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Yes! Im beginning chapter 9!
This has been an amazing book in so many ways.
Im still trying to discern the differences from the Fellowship Sorcerors and what they can do and the Koriani. They ultimately both use magic. But it seems like the Order tends to do a lot of scrying into the future....thats where Arithon gets his idea to use the tienelle. But then the Order also uses Stones/crystals to create spells. The spells can be really similar to what the Fellowship do; which depend more on present circumstances and how to change them.
What do you think? Am I looking at it wrong?


message 19: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (vinjii) | 1144 comments I've had a couple of really stressful weeks at work...so I'm a bit behind, but still reading this :)


message 20: by Laura (last edited Jun 24, 2019 09:58AM) (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments I understood it a bit different Jess. But now that you are asking, I am myself not so sure either.

Remember on Dascen Elur Arithon was schooled in magic by his Grandfather and the grandfather in his turn has learnt from the mages before him, all the way back to Sethvir. Sethvir had trained the Rauven Mages on Athera, before they left in that self exile on Dascen Elur.

The magic of the Fellowship is way stronger and truer than that of the Koriani Order.
The Order uses crystals to help them with their magic because they cannot themselves do stuff like the Fellowship. They do not have that kind of power.

To put it simple, the Koriani Order has to obey the laws of Athera and The Fellowship are guardians and enforcers of those laws. And the Fellowship has clearly the upper hand on the power. Something that you must have noticed, pisses the Prime Matriarch to no end. That woman is more power hungry than anyone else I ever met. I really hate her guts.

And now I'm gonna ask Janny to help us out because I may also have gotten it wrong. :D


message 21: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments Olivia wrote: "I've had a couple of really stressful weeks at work...so I'm a bit behind, but still reading this :)"

That's ok Olivia. :) We're here.


message 22: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Ah, ok Id forgotten the link between Descen Elur and Athera! Morriel is NOT a nice lady. Ch 9 spoilers
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message 23: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Finished last night.

The next 3 books have been posted starting here:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 24: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments Hi Jess,

Janny replied to the question regarding Koriathain and Fellowship magic. Here is her reply:

The books are going to unfold this for you in a measured manner, however, here's an overview (not a spoiler for the series thus far, it was 'opened' in Vol I).

The most easily grasped difference is this:
The Fellowship are bound by the Law of the Major Balance. You can look that up in the glossary....it REQUIRES free will consent by all parties involved.

The Koriathain honor no such restriction.

The rest lies in how both 'factions' acquired their powers and what route and what guidlines they've acquired - gathered wisdom if you will - and where they may be BLINDED or have tunnel vision due to their code - ask yourself THIS question (if you can answer/and if not, the books will unfold it): What is their 'moral high ground?" What is their purpose? Whom do they serve? What are they 'invested' in?

Both groups have very very different foundations in this regard: watch for it (you do not know this, yet, it will unfold in arc III and beyond).

That knowledge - and awareness - and discovery of the 'origins' of their powers - will show you the very vivid differences between the two groups.

It will also tell you a secondary reason why Koriathain persist with their 'traditional' history of using Crystals. Watch Sethvir's hand for this, too.

PS also: Fellowship Sorcerers also use crystals on occasion, you will see this in Arc III, and the 'contrast' between their methodology and the Koriathain's will be telling.

If you are truly curious to know the deep, very deep, backdrop history, my short The Sundering Star will illuminate the 'history' behind Koriathain, Fellowship and even (incoming!) Biedar. You can find it in e format at www.paravia.com/catalog, or you can get it in the print anthology Under Cover of Darkness.



message 25: by Laura (new)

Laura (lauradragonchild) | 6554 comments Jess wrote: "Finished last night.

The next 3 books have been posted starting here:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/..."


How did you like it?


message 26: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Oh that was a great response from Janny.

I thought this book was really an improvement from the first two books. I could hardly put it down! 4.5 stars easy


message 27: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Will anyone else be reading Fugitive Prince, next in series on Aug 15?

My voice echoes in that chat!


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