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Some interesting books that relate to the Montauk Project:
Is time travel possible?And if so, are some citizens in our present era actually from our past or future?
I recommend checking out video testimonials online from a US lawyer called ANDREW D. BASIAGO who claims to have been used as a time-travel subject as a child. He strikes me as the most convincing individual to support the theories that there are classified time travel projects going on like The Montauk Project and Project Pegasus.
Sterling wrote: "Some interesting books that relate to the Montauk Project:[bookcover..."I've read maybe 4 of those books some years ago, two of which are authored by Peter Moon (a con-artist with no credibility at all, in my humble opinion). The other night I was listening to an online interview (http://freemantv.com/montauk-mind-con...) with Moon. He made several statements about Montauk and Long Island during the interview that really piqued my curiosity. The statements were so bizarre I couldn't figure out how he had managed to come up with them. This set me off on a 6-hour research project.
Part of his story included a statement that there was a group of Montaukett natives known as the Pharaohs of Montauk and that they were the "Royal Family" of the Montauk Nation. I'm familiar with the Montauk myth and had never heard anyone ever mention anything about the "Montauk Pharaohs" in connection with it. Or maybe it's just that with the passage of years I'd forgotten that little gem. In any case, I was curious to know how he managed to come up with that idea and so I set out to do some research to see what I could find, thinking he probably had to have come across something upon which he built what I was certain had to be a complete fabrication. Also of interest is that, according to what is claimed to be the official website of the Montauk Indians, the tribal members are quite disgusted with Peter Moon, not to mention they are upset with a couple of their tribal members who have teamed up with Moon to help perpetuate his story.
Moon's contention that "the Montauk Indians were known as the Pharaohs" and that the Pharaohs were "the royal tribe of the island, the royal family were the Pharaohs..." makes no sense whatsoever in light of the known history of the natives of the island. From what I was able to discover during my research, it seems Moon concocted this total fantasy from well documented information about a Montaukett Indian by the name of Stephen "Housetalk" Pharaoh.
By the way, for someone who likes to use the term "phonetic transliteration" (check out the interview at the link provided above), Moon should probably learn what the heck he's talking about. There is no such term. In fact the term "phonetic transliteration" is an oxymoron. Phonetics relates to the sound of words, how they're pronounced. Transliteration has nothing to do with the sound of words or how they're pronounced. Transliteration refers to the transcribing of "written" words from one language and alphabetic system into another.
I mention this because it gets to the crux of his "Pharaoh" baloney. If he'd done any real research he'd know the history of how Stephen Housetalk Pharaoh came to acquire the last name of "Pharaoh". Here's the short version:
As a child he (Stephen Talkhouse Pharaoh) had been bound as an indentured servant to an East Hampton family; "Talkhouse Pharaoh was born in a wigwam at a site called `Molly's Place' near Three Mile Harbor," said John Strong, a history professor at Southampton College of Long Island University. "Steven had that presence that struck everybody who met him. That's why people sought him out for photographs. He was the ideal type. So when he died, people thought there were no more Montauketts anywhere." The name Faro appears on deeds marked by the Montauketts' Xs in the mid-1600s. Later, the name was reconfigured into "Pharaoh," probably by English settlers who wanted to give the family a regal-sounding name that would confer on them the status to sell off land. (http://stephentalkhouse.com/FAQ)
The English etymology of "pharaoh" is a derivative... of "fer", iron, from the Latin "ferrum", and was originally given as an occupational name to a worker in iron. The surname first appears on record in the latter part of the 13th Century...and is most widespread in Yorkshire as the following recordings indicate... (http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Pharaoh) The name "Faro" is yet another derivation from the same Latin root.
In other words, the English use of the Egyptian word "Pharaoh" as a surname, is due to the English speaking people morphing the variety of above mentioned words (because of the phonetic similarity) into the word "Pharaoh". Moon makes the same mistake with his bizarre phonetic twist on the word "Kentucky". The word "Kentucky" has a well documented etymology (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?t...) and it has nothing whatsoever to do with anything Moon is so laboriously trying to concoct.
Moon also talked about the "pyramids of Long Island". Moon claimed he got that information from a book called "History of Long Island" by Rufus Wilson, a book that Moon said cost him $80. I'd love for Moon to show me where in Wilson's extremely detailed and well documented book such a claim is made. Wilson's book, by the way, is available for free to read online:
History of Long Island by Rufus Rockwell Wilson
https://archive.org/stream/historiclo...
I went through the entire thing, chapter by chapter. Couldn't find a single mention of pyramids anywhere in the book. Again, Moon seems to be making up stuff out of his fertile imagination. In other words, he's "mooning" us and chuckling as he cashes his royalty checks from the sales of his bogus books.
Preston Nichols, Al Bielek and Peter Moon came to my neck of the woods, sometime back in the early 90s, and gave a long, detailed live presentation of the entire Montauk/Philadelphia-Experiment saga. As I recall, it was Moon who did most of the talking while Nichols and Bielek mostly stood back in the shadows looking paranoid.
Personally, I think that whole saga is one of the greatest stories ever told. Unfortunately, I also believe it's one of the greatest tall tales ever told. When I first about it on the old Art Bell show back in the early 90s I was absolutely fascinated. Couldn't get enough of it. I don't buy any of it anymore.
A group poll is currently running asking if members believe time travel is possible: https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/1...
The group poll that asked 'Do you believe time travel is possible?' is now complete.Here are the results:
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Gary wrote: "Sterling wrote: "Preston Nichols, Al Bielek and Peter Moon came to my neck of the woods, sometime back in the early 90s, and gave a long, detailed live presentation of the entire Montauk/Philadelphia-Experiment saga. As I recall, it was Moon who did most of the talking while Nichols and Bielek mostly stood back in the shadows looking paranoid...."Ha!
I now have this image of two grown men hanging back in the shadows and full of fear!
Glad to see the 'Philadelphia Experiment' mentioned!My fave time-travel 'SF' novel is this little-known work:
Nighteyes
it tallies up with articles written in Scientific American at the time, on just what such technology would involve.
Cool Feliks.
Montauk Chronicles - World Premiere Q&A Panel, January 17th 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkEF...
INSIDE THE REAL-LIFE TIME-TRAVEL EXPERIMENT THAT INSPIRED 'STRANGER THINGS' https://www.thrillist.com/entertainme...The Philadelphia Experiment & The Montauk Project https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGgly...
The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mo...
Philadelphia Experiment
Beyond the Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk Project
The Philadelphia Experiment Murder: Parallel Universes and the Physics of Insanity
Stewart Swerdlow ~ Last Living Survivor of the Montauk Project (interviewed by Laura Eisenhower - Great-Granddaughter of President Eisenhower)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXBkS...
The Montauk Project Conspiracy https://www.gaia.com/article/has-the-...Stemming from the Philadelphia Experiment, the military supposedly conducted a program at the Camp Hero Air Force base on Long Island, known as the Phoenix Project. The program funded studies ranging from psychotronics, to black hole simulations and weather control. Some point to a company in the area, called the Brookhaven Institute, as being a shadow agency in collusion with the government for these experiments.
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“It (Montauk) is very large. It extends for miles, especially the 5th and 6th levels. Almost all of it was constructed in the late 1920's or early 1930's. We talked to one of the men who was one of the contractors who built it. It was built on government orders right after the depression started. It was built in six levels. They covered the top over with earth. It's known locally as "the hill". It’s a huge base. There may still be some use of it. Most of it is shut down. The power has been on for two years now, single phase 220 volt. The elevator used ran on three-phase 440 volts, and that has not been turned on, probably because they plugged all main openings and the elevator shaft with concrete.” –Al Bielek and Preston Nichols, from an interview titled Orion Technology and Other Secret Projects
The abandoned Montauk Air Force Station (aka Camp Hero) in Camp Hero State Park, Montauk Point, Long Island, NY, has long been the source of many an exotic conspiracy theory, most of which usually involve underground locations. For example, it’s rumored that Paperclip Nazi scientists worked at the mysterious Long Island military facility commonly known as Montauk.
The area takes its name from the region’s original inhabitants, the Montauk Indians, who, according to the courts, no longer exist as a tribe even though remaining Montauk tribal members insist they do still exist. But that’s a whole other conspiracy theory!
Many independent researchers have described Montauk as a secret research facility where, so they claim, psy-ops like remote viewing and time travel experiments took place for decades before the site was eventually shut down.
Some conspiracy theorists even say there was a more advanced version of the infamous Philadelphia Experiment conducted at Montauk. You may recall the original experiment allegedly rendered a US Navy vessel invisible to enemy radar and listening devices – a story denied by the US Navy. These top-secret experiments were known as the Montauk Project and were reportedly carried out in nine subterranean levels beneath the abandoned Air Force station.
Quite a few Montauk Point locals have reported sightings of high-tech equipment being taken underground, and the existence of tunnels and subterranean bases throughout the region have long been rumored within the tightknit community.
In the 2010 TV documentary Inside Secret Government Warehouses, produced by the US cable network Syfy, the filmmakers went to Montauk to see if they could confirm the existence of underground facilities there. No tunnels or underground facilities were found.
However, ground-penetrating radar devices were also used and, although not completely conclusive, they appeared to show evidence pointing to some type of underground chamber directly below ground – a conclusion confirmed by the independent radar technicians operating the devices.
The TV crew also revealed a vast network of tunnels beneath nearby historic resort hotel Montauk Manor. Many commentators believe these tunnels lead directly to the Air Force station and were built as part of the mysterious Montauk Project.
“The last time two people went out there (to Montauk) to look they were abducted. They were knocked out electronically and taken underground to another facility where mental adjustments were made on them. They were returned to the spot, but one of them was not returned exactly at the same time as the other. There was about a 2 second gap and the one that was already there saw it. They knew immediately that something was wrong. They were given a warning. The underground system is still in operation. There are three entrances near AIL. They have three plants in the Farmingdale area. Brookhaven National Laboratories have an entrance to the system. There is also a connection to the Newark ITT Corporation building. From there a spur that goes to the ITT facility at Nutley. There is also a tunnel that goes from Newark to Wright Patterson AFB.” –Al Bielek and Preston Nichols, from an interview titled Orion Technology and Other Secret Projects
Over the years, numerous books have been written about Montauk and the Montauk Project. Among the more interesting is (the classic) The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time, by Preston Nichols and Peter Moon.
As the authors state, “The Montauk Project chronicles the most amazing and secretive research project in recorded history. Starting with the "Philadelphia Experiment"; of 1943, invisibility experiments were conducted aboard the USS Eldridge that resulted in full scale teleportation of the ship and crew. Forty years of massive research ensued, culminating in bizarre experiments at Montauk Point that actually tapped the powers of creation and manipulated time itself.
“The Montauk Project bridges the modalities of science with the most esoteric techniques ever imagined and finally catapults us to the threshold of the stars. We all know something is out there, but we're not sure exactly what.”
The authors pull no punches in their search for the truth. This is acknowledged in the most recent (at the time of writing) review of the book on Amazon in which the reviewer states, “It took a lot of courage and perseverance to get this out into the public arena.”
One who debunks the findings of Nichols and Moon, and indeed, all who speculate on rumored events at Montauk and Camp Hero, is columnist Oliver Peterson.
In an article published in the Dan’s Papers newsletter dated June 5, 2014, Peterson writes, “Perhaps it was this early veil of secrecy that earned the base a reputation for much more than housing soldiers and protecting Montauk’s vulnerable shores.
Since the 1980s, conspiracies have circulated alleging that experiments in psychological warfare, teleportation and time travel occurred there and, some believe, continue at the site today.”
Peterson continues, “Of course, as the Montauk Project conspiracy gained momentum and exposure, increasingly bizarre stories were added spanning all manner of sci-fi plot. Today there are hundreds of accounts, including child abductions and torture, extraterrestrial beings, inter-dimensional travel, Nazi scientists, UFOs, reptilian beings, a sasquatch-like beast and much more.”
He concludes, “Whatever went on at Camp Hero, or didn’t, or is still going on today, the decommissioned base remains a looming reminder of a bygone time and the Montauk that existed long before throngs of vacationers dotted her shores and development spread to every unprotected corner.”
So there you have it. Polar opposite opinions on what may or may not have happened – or may still be happening today – in and around Camp Hero. Either way, even the most skeptical of us must concede there remain many unanswered questions concerning Project Montauk and its rumored underground bases.