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Excerpt from The Orphan Conspiracies: 29 Conspiracy Theories from The Orphan Trilogy:


Naylor inspected the documents. They included files and photos Nine had uplifted from the Berlin journalist Naylor had ordered him to execute a year earlier. Among them were graphic photos of orphans who had been subjected to horrific scientific experiments. –The Ninth Orphan


Now here’s an experiment that defies belief. It involved the proven and acknowledged infection of Guatemalan orphans, schoolchildren, psychiatric patients, prison inmates and many others with venereal diseases in the late 1940’s by – wait for it – American public health doctors!

Through the late Nineties and early 2000’s rumors of deliberate infection of Guatemalans became whispers until finally, in 2005, hard evidence of what one senior US health official described as “a dark chapter in the history of medicine”was produced.

The world learned that for years American public health doctors deliberately infected hundreds of Guatemalans with syphilis and other venereal diseases. Apparently, the reason for this was to test the effectiveness of penicillin on those infections.

International Rights Advocates claim more than 5000 Guatemalans were experimented on and, in the course of those experiments, over 1000 were infected with venereal diseases.

One experiment entailed syphilis-infected prostitutes sleeping with prisoners in Guatemalan prisons. It transpires that prisoners not infected were administered the bacteria by injection or other means. While those who contracted syphilis were given antibiotics, it remains unclear exactly how many – if any – were cured.

The experiments, funded by America’s National Institutes of Health, were facilitated by Guatemalan health officials without the informed consent of subjects. Reports show at least 80 deaths resulted – with some estimates being much higher.

In October 2010 the US Government officially apologized for the actions of American citizens involved in the whole ugly business.

In a joint statement, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said: “Although these events occurred more than 64 years ago, we are outraged that such reprehensible research could have occurred under the guise of public health. We deeply regret that it happened, and we apologize to all the individuals who were affected by such abhorrent research practices.”

In a twist to the revelation, the New York Times issue of October 1, 2010 reported – beneath the banner headline U.S. apologizes for syphilis tests in Guatemala – that “The public health doctor who led the experiment, John C. Cutler, would later have an important role in the Tuskegee study.”

The study referred to was the US Public Health Service’s unethical and infamous Tuskegee syphilis experiment that saw African-American males with syphilis deliberately left untreated for 40 years (from 1932 to 1972). But that’s a whole other story.

Getting back to the Guatemala experiments, a (US) Presidential Commission for the Study of Bioethical Issues concluded that, after an intensive nine-month investigation, “The Guatemala experiments involved gross violations of ethics...It is the Commission’s firm belief that many of the actions undertaken in Guatemala were especially egregious moral wrongs because many of the individuals involved held positions of public institutional responsibility.”

Our research into this experiment has not uncovered reports of successful prosecutions against any of the American health officials or medical staffers involved in this travesty. Nor has it revealed whether any of the experiment’s subjects have received compensation for the atrocities committed. We can only assume the answer is No to both those questions.

ShesGorgeouslyGeeky wrote: "This also happened in the US --Tuskegee Syphilis experiments ---I wonder why this was allowed to go on so long. With the Tuskegee Syphilis experiments lasting into the mid to late 70s."

Yup.
Check out this discussion thread for Tuskegee: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

In response to your question, I personally believe that there is an agenda to this day by predominantly white administrations toward minorities...

ShesGorgeouslyGeeky wrote: "That's an interesting concept, because at that point it no longer makes it a 'study' but rather a way of genocide for a group of people."

Yeah, but done so subtly that it's almost impossible to prove or trace.
A bit like how the CIA released crack cocaine into African-American communities in the 70s and 80s.
To my mind, that indicates a racial agenda...Especially when you consider just how devastating it was for these communities...

This article here is worth a read on the subject:

Blacks Were Targeted for CIA Cocaine - It Can Be Proven -- http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free...

I also happen to believe the US Govt's pathetic and Third World-style response to Hurricane Katrina and the ridiculously slow "rescue" effort was along similar lines...

James Morcan wrote: "ShesGorgeouslyGeeky wrote: "That's an interesting concept, because at that point it no longer makes it a 'study' but rather a way of genocide for a group of people."

Yeah, but done so subtly that ..."

Another good book is Dark Alliance and yet another Whiteout CIA Drugs and the Press!

Bad Blood: The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment

James wrote: "ShesGorgeouslyGeeky wrote: "This also happened in the US --Tuskegee Syphilis experiments ---I wonder why this was allowed to go on so long. With the Tuskegee Syphilis experiments lasting into the m..."

Without a doubt.

Guatemala syphilis experiment -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatema...

Wikipedia: Guatemala syphilis experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatema...

The Guatemala syphilis experiment and medical ethics in science-based medicine https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-...

Conspiracy FACT #17: The Guatemalan Syphilis Experiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8PsB...

Bitter Fruit: The Story of the American Coup in Guatemala