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message 1: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (last edited Feb 21, 2019 09:25AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments The April 2019 Moderator's Choice book of the month is the Science Fiction On a Red Station, Drifting by Aliette de Bodard.

This book has been in print since December 2012 so there should be many different editions available. Please check your local library and/or favorite book retailer.

This book is the first [book/novella length] entry in Xuya Universe series. There are a lot of shorts that precede this book but this book stands alone as a first in series. The history (from the preceding short stories) is enriching but not required to enjoy On a Red Station, Drifting.

Please remember to use spoiler tags < spoiler > < /spoiler > when discussing.


message 2: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments The Universe of Xuya is... a wide ranging sci-fi alt-history series.

The History:(view spoiler)

Stories in Publication order:
(view spoiler)

Chronological Order (plus details from author) (view spoiler)


Becky (beckyofthe19and9) I'm in for this one... It'll probably be closer to April before I get to it, but I'm in. :)

By the way, thanks for choosing the better of the English edition covers for the linked edition. The other one is... not appealing to me at all. My favorite though is this one: Stazione rossa by Aliette de Bodard


message 4: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments That one is beautiful!

I don't like the other english cover, either.


message 5: by Becky (last edited Feb 21, 2019 09:43AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Becky (beckyofthe19and9) MrsJoseph wrote: "That one is beautiful!"

Right?? I'd pick that up from a bookstore shelf. I wouldn't with any of the others. I'm not into anime, so this cover does nothing for me, and the other one looks like it was slapped together in photoshop, so... no.

ETA: I do know that anime is Japanese and this is Chinese based, but the style looks anime-ish to me, so I'd still pass it by. LOL


Mimi (1stavenue) | 25 comments Count me in as well. Thanks for the extensive background info, MrsJ. This novella has been stuck in my queue for a really long time. Time to get it read.

But first, a series order question, is it necessary to read the shorter works published prior to Red Station or can I go back and read it later?


Becky (beckyofthe19and9) From what I can tell, this can stand alone without pre-reading the other stories that came before it. From other reviews and info, it looks like they are more like interconnected stories set in the same universe than actual series stories that need to be read in order.


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Nyssa | 2023 comments As a completist - I wish there was a collection, anthology, or omnibus!


message 9: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Mimi wrote: "Count me in as well. Thanks for the extensive background info, MrsJ. This novella has been stuck in my queue for a really long time. Time to get it read.

But first, a series order question, is it ..."


You're welcome!

And what Becky said. The shorts are more interconnected stories + alternative history worldbuilding.


message 10: by Mimi (new) - rated it 3 stars

Mimi (1stavenue) | 25 comments Ah, okay. I'll go back and read them later then.


message 11: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Nyssa wrote: "As a completist - I wish there was a collection, anthology, or omnibus!"

Me, too!!!!! That would be amazing, tbh


message 12: by Beth (last edited Feb 26, 2019 10:55AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) I read this a few years ago--in the hardback edition with the awful cover. Ignore the cover/s, this is a great novella and I'd be willing to read it again for an April group.


message 13: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Beth wrote: "I read this a few years ago--in the hardback edition with the awful cover. Ignore the cover/s, this is a great novella and I'd be willing to read it again for an April group."

:-D


Christine (inhalesbookslikepopcorn) I'm excited for this one


message 15: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Me, too! I've been reading the shorts (still not finished) and it all fascinates me.


message 16: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) I'm about 1/3 of the way in and am loving it again. The tension between the two lead women is so great (trying to keep it as spoiler free as possible until others have a chance to get into it).


message 17: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments I'm still at the beginning. but I'm glad I have previous exposure to this universe.


Becky (beckyofthe19and9) Very nearly started this yesterday, but then I thought that I'd go for a Michael Connelly since I needed a bit of a palate cleanser from my last few books, and can pretty solidly count on him for a good one.

But, I did read a few pages of this, and I'm intrigued and liked what I read, so... I'll be reading this next I think. :)


message 19: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments I love the way de Bodard builds stories. There's always so much nuance and things always happen that I don't expect.


message 20: by Mimi (new) - rated it 3 stars

Mimi (1stavenue) | 25 comments I haven't started reading yet, will do so tonight. Just wanted to stop in to let you guys know that the audiobook read by Emily Woo Zeller will be available on April 9th on Audible. (Not sure if it'll be available at other online bookstores.)

https://www.audible.com/pd/On-a-Red-S...


message 21: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) What a happy coincidence. "Only on Audible" isn't plastered all over the book's page :P so it's safe to say it'll be available elsewhere.


message 22: by Mimi (new) - rated it 3 stars

Mimi (1stavenue) | 25 comments Oh, right. Am not a frequent Audible purchaser, so I completely missed that. But that's good to know that it'll be available at other stores as well.


message 23: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Mimi wrote: "I haven't started reading yet, will do so tonight. Just wanted to stop in to let you guys know that the audiobook read by Emily Woo Zeller will be available on April 9th on Audible. (Not sure if it..."

WOOT! This would make a good combo.

I just don't know why they don't sell edition packages. It's an easy money maker. 1 HB, 1 ebook, 1 audio for 1 purchase. I'd do it for a lot of books. Roughly, everything Ilona Andrews ever wrote...


Becky (beckyofthe19and9) MrsJoseph wrote: "I just don't know why they don't sell edition packages. It's an easy money maker. 1 HB, 1 ebook, 1 audio for 1 purchase."

I'm guessing because they probably don't have ebooks and audio versions available to release at the same time. I'm looking at a book now that's been out since August of last year, but ebook (at least kindle) and audio format (at least through Audible) isn't available until April 30th.

LAME. I GOT CREDITS TO BURN, PEOPLE! :P

And, I don't think that most people are like us and would multi-format it. I LOVE doing that when the book is good... total immersion. Sigh.


message 25: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments And they should stop making the release dates so far apart.


Becky (beckyofthe19and9) MrsJoseph wrote: "And they should stop making the release dates so far apart."

Right? Like, let's plan ahead, people! You know that you're going to release the book on X date, so let's make sure to have ebook and audio versions available that date as well to maximize sales and readership.


message 27: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) Finished with part 1:

(view spoiler)


message 28: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Becky wrote: "And, I don't think that most people are like us and would multi-format it. I LOVE doing that when the book is good... total immersion. Sigh."

OMG, Becky. I loved so much reading while being read to. It was amazing and it felt like I was watching a movie.


message 29: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Beth wrote: "Finished with part 1:

.."


Have you ever read the Brainship Series before? That's actually how I think of the Mindships (even though they are not the same).


message 30: by Beth (last edited Apr 02, 2019 12:07PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) MrsJoseph wrote: "I'm still at the beginning. but I'm glad I have previous exposure to this universe."

This novella was my first exposure to it--imo de Bodard does a good job giving the reader enough basic info to understand the situation with the war, and to hang the characters' story on.

MrsJoseph wrote: "Have you ever read the Brainship Series before?"

I've heard of them but not read them. The couple of other things of McCaffrey's I've tried were fun, especially the first Crystal Singer.

Book 2:

(view spoiler)


message 31: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments I'm in book 2 at 55%(view spoiler)


message 32: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) Good timing on this read: de Bodard has been nominated for a Hugo in both the novella and series categories for The Tea Master and the Detective and Universe of Xuya.


message 33: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Beth wrote: "Good timing on this read: de Bodard has been nominated for a Hugo in both the novella and series categories for The Tea Master and the Detective and Universe of Xuya."

That's on my list, too. I have a hardcopy of it.


message 34: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) Done!

(view spoiler)

Here's a question for those who've finished: (view spoiler)

I don't disagree with MrsJ that (view spoiler)

A few too many similes imo. She and/or her editors could've pared out a few instances of (view spoiler)


message 35: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Brainships: (view spoiler)


message 36: by Nyssa (new) - added it

Nyssa | 2023 comments I was hoping to start this today, but it will probably be this weekend instead.


message 37: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Beth wrote: "Done!

[spoilers removed]

Here's a question for those who've finished: [spoilers removed]

I don't disagree with MrsJ that [spoilers removed]

A few too many similes imo. She and/or her editors co..."


DONE!

Quyen & Lihn (view spoiler)

HA: (view spoiler)

I do agree that de Bodard's writing can be almost too lyrical. Sometimes too much is too much.


message 38: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Also, I didn't get (view spoiler)

I think that this review aptly sums up a lot of my feelings toward Quyen/Lihn's relationship. (spoilers for story)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 39: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) Quyen and Linh: (view spoiler)

That's my basic take on their relationship through most of the story. I agree with your interpretation that they each made missteps (view spoiler).

On the Honored Ancestress: (view spoiler) ;)


message 40: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) MrsJoseph wrote: "Also, I didn't get [spoilers removed]"

Much like you, and the writer of this review, I didn't get it either. It's a tricky thing because I'm really not strong when it comes to (view spoiler). So it's hard to say if the examples of it in the story are kinda weak, or if I'm just dumb.

Ha, Olga really has a hate-on for Quyen.


message 41: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments (view spoiler)


message 42: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments I’m the same way with (view spoiler)


Christine (inhalesbookslikepopcorn) I liked this a lot, I have to put Aliette de Bodard on my TBR to read more of her works


message 44: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Christine wrote: "I liked this a lot, I have to put Aliette de Bodard on my TBR to read more of her works"

I'm glad you enjoyed it! What was your favorite part?

I can honestly say that one of the things I enjoyed was the description of the tech and the fraught relationship between Quyen. In an odd way, of course. I liked it because while there was such extreme jealously and dislike on both sides, it was related only to their relationship with each other (instead of who was prettier or a man).


message 45: by Beth (last edited Apr 04, 2019 08:19AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) MrsJoseph wrote: (view spoiler)

I could understand the relationship in its early stages: (view spoiler) But that isn't stated in the story itself so I'm just guessing.

The scene/conversation after (view spoiler) lost me. I wasn't sure what had changed or what was trying to be conveyed in the dialogue. And you don't see them together after that iirc.


message 46: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Beth wrote: "MrsJoseph wrote: [spoilers removed]

I could understand the relationship itself in its early stages: [spoilers removed] But that isn't stated in the story itself so I'm just guessing.

The scene/co..."


Right. That's how I felt. Like, I got them being friendly and talking to each other - (view spoiler)


That conversation (view spoiler)


message 47: by Beth (last edited Apr 04, 2019 09:05AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth (rosewoodpip) MrsJoseph wrote: (view spoiler)

Yeah, (view spoiler)


message 48: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Beth wrote: "MrsJoseph wrote: [spoilers removed]

Yeah, [spoilers removed]"




(view spoiler)


message 49: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments Also, for some reason, I was able to connect more wit Lihn than Quyen - as I'm sure you can tell by my reactions, lol.


message 50: by MrsJoseph *grouchy*, Bad Girls Deadlift (new) - rated it 3 stars

MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 5312 comments So, when I go back over my notes from my (singular and lonely) entire universe read, I'm noticing that a lot of the stories in this series are sad af. In some way or the other.

A triumph here is a decimation there.

I get the whole "thread of sorrow" thingy that Tolkien encouraged and put forth as required...but I admit that it's not particularly fun.


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