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Two members from our writing club were exchanging highly contrasting opinions on Pride and Prejudice and Wuthering Heights (respectively their favorites and un-favorites), while I, having read neither of the two, could only continue to gape at them like a spectator at a tennis match. Now that I've finished Wuthering Heights this month, I'm curious about how different this book could be.
In a tenth of it right now and am enjoying it much more than I expected. A pleasant surprise to me! I hope this feeling lasts.
Robin wrote: "Now that I've finished Wuthering Heights this month, I'm curious about how different this book could be."
Very different styles. I love Jane Austen and have read P&P several times. I'm still yet to make it all the way through Wuthering Heights.
Very different styles. I love Jane Austen and have read P&P several times. I'm still yet to make it all the way through Wuthering Heights.

I can't wait to hear what you all think over in the Spoilers discussion.




Sylvie and Cassie, the hype is part in parcel why I could never fully get through it without expectations leading me to drop it. I hope that this time, with help from you all, I'll find something for myself in it.

What I loved about the book was the strong character of Elizabeth. Just think of the time period - 1800's - women really were second class citizens and their real symbol of success was finding a man of status to marry. Elizabeth is smart, funny and seems to rise above the social expectations for women. I just loved that rebellious side of her and the sharp contrast with her mother and sisters. I look forward to reading it again.


There is a lot of tongue-in-cheek humor in the book. It helps to read it with that attitude in mind. It's ironic and sarcastic in a warm friendly way (not cynical and mean) -especially Elizabeth and her father. The mother however is in earnest. She needs to find husbands for her 5 daughters, because there were few good alternatives for women.
When I was young I thought it would be really boring, but it's bright and sparkling, and has humor and real insights about character.


As far as comparisons to Wuthering Heights - I loved Pride & Prejudice and hated Wuthering Heights.




This might sound like blasphemy on a book site, but have you tried watching the movie? I'd recommend the 2005 movie (there are many adaptations). If you like it, read the book to get more. The very best adaptation of all time is the miniseries (1998?) with Colin Firth as Darcy. It was on a cable station recently, but it should also be at the library.


This might sound like blasphemy on a book site, but have..."
The Colin Firth adaptation of Pride and Prejudice is a classic... I feel like it is his face for Mr. Darcy for me when I read it.

However, if you have not read it, don't like my dislike discourage you. This is a much loved classic, and I'm glad I did finally read it. Honestly, I might have enjoyed reading this more when I was younger. There was much to like, but I struggled to relate to the life style of the characters and nothing in the story really caught my interest. Also, the pace of the book is fairly slow, if I remember right, and I remember driving down the road glaring at the CD player wishing it would spin faster. In the end, the book was just way too long for me.
I do plan to follow the spoilers comments to see what everyone thinks. Hope you enjoy it.

Brooklyn, no pressure about needing to try this novel again (and great suggestion about the movie, NancyJ, not blasphemous at all if it sparks conversation).
I hope you get the book from the library soon, Catherina.
Shamitha, I also see Colin Firth as the quintessential Mr Darcy haha!
Shelley, I'm glad to hear another point of view (I was expecting and hoping to see some dislikes or even hates!) I'll be looking out for your comments on the Spoilers Thread after I've finished reading, as hearing other perspectives always adds more to the plate.

Melinda wrote: "I’m so excited to read this...again! Pride & Prejudice is my absolute favorite book! After I’m done reading it, I always watch the BBC made for TV adaptation since it sticks really close to the boo..."
I agree! I joined bookclubs for the same reason, and I love P&P in all forms. I love the miniseries, and I also love the shorter 2005 movie. I liked some of the retellings and spinoffs too. There was a great tv movie about 10 years ago, in which a modern women magically switches places with Lizzy. You see each of them trying to adapt to a different time. I loved it because in the book, Lizzy has a more modern feminist attitude than her sisters did.
Last summer when I was voting for the Great American Read, I got on twitter and found a lot of Jane Austen fans from all over the world. (Janeites, Austenites). They're very fun people (especially @DrunkAusten). There are events all over the world, museums, lecture series, and fancy costume balls (the dress like Austen characters or people from that era). (The only book with a better organized voting group was Outlander. It helps that the author is alive and loves to interact with her fans. ) These are the literary women's equivalents of ComicCon.
I also hated Wuthering Heights (the book). I couldn't even finish it, even though I really liked the movie when I was young. It's less harsh than the book.

Brooklyn, no pressure about needing to try this novel again (and great suggestion about the movie, NancyJ, not blasphemo..."
I don't expect everyone to love this book. In fact, I'm pretty sure I would have hated the premise of this book when I was in high school. I hated anything girly, traditional, or marriage focused. I would have seen Mrs Bennet as a money grubbing opportunist looking for rich husbands for her daughters. (Which is how Darcy saw her). I would have said the girls should get careers so they don't have to do that. In reality, their options were severely limited.
This is just a delicious story about the formation of real relationships. The lessons are timeless. There are a millions of people who are lonely because they are too prideful, shy, or just too scared to get out there because they don't want to look like a fool. And everyone makes mistakes in all kinds of relationships due to prejudice or judging people based on first impressions or things that don't matter.
This is a great story about how to find someone with strong values and character - someone who will deserve you, and vice versa. I loved the verbal sparring between them. We should all avoid the charming bad boys and find men of character.


Just wanted to make sure any that need it are aware of the free options for this book.
Digital copy through Project Gutenberg; https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/sear...
Audio book version through Librivox: https://librivox.org/search?q=Pride%2... — there are multiple good ones here.

Re movie adaptations: I enjoy both the 2005 and 1995 versions, though I do prefer the 1995 version in most aspects. There are also some earlier ones that I don’t enjoy as much, mostly due to production quality. The 1940 version takes too many liberties with the story.

Then I read Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and I laughed so hard recalling the original that I decided I loved P&P.
I am so happy to be rereading it this month and seeing if I really do love it. :-)

1940 version took a lot of liberties with fashion choices as well. It looked like they got the leftover dresses from the Gone with the Wind production. I liked the actress though in other films.

Then I read Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and I laughed so hard ..."
I saw the P&P and zombies movie and I thought it was hysterical too. It was clever how they tweaked the dialogue from the original book. I liked the girl power when I saw all the Bennett girls wielding weapons. And the scene with Lizzy and Darcy fighting had me hooting because it was so unexpected. (Especially her high side kick to his head.) I was comparing it my head to the original scene in the book.
I'm not sure many others on gr share our view though. All my family members left the room during the movie. They couldn't understand the appeal since I don't usually like horror movies.

I was on the fence about watching P&P& Zombies, but I’m convinced that I need to watch it now!


Also adored Colin Firth as Mr Darcy in BBC series Pride and Prejudice... for me Mr Darcy will always have his face..;-).




Silje, do you mean abridged/unabridged? Otherwise, any edition will do the job.

Lina, so glad to hear you've fallen into a good rhythm with it and the novel hasn't been challenging.






I first read it as an assignment in class. She would have us read through certain chapters then play the 1995 6-part BBC version of the book to match the chapters. It really helped a lot and I fell in love with the book and Jane Austen. Maybe it will be the same for you.

I have a very difficult time engaging with Austen novels but I appreciate her wit and love her characters. Any tips for pushing through what feels to me an impassable wall of dry language? Emma and Northanger Abbey went down much easier for me!


I have to agree with your comment. I LOVE Pride & Prejudice, detested Wuthering Heights but liked Jane Eyre.
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