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message 1: by Faith (new)

Faith Flaherty (contemprisma) | 56 comments I was happy to get an email this morning about the next book recommended in The Catholic Book Club, Henri Nouwen's, "The Return of the Prodigal Son." I was dismayed to click on the email's link to buy the book and find out that the price was $ 12.99 for Kindle!
Consequently, I went to Amazon.com directly, $ 1.69 paperback.
Guess which one I ordered.


message 2: by Madeleine (new)

Madeleine Myers | 303 comments Faith, yes, I discovered, especially if you have Prime, that buying the cheaper paperback is a great option! Finding that a particular poet my grandson was interested in, prices ranged from $12 to $85 even for the used book. I have the $85 one, signed by the poet in a workshop I attended, but I sent him the other one. Keeping that one for now. But I have yet to buy a used book on Amazon that wasn't in great condition.


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Manny (virmarl) | 41 comments I don't know where to put this, and I posted it at Catholic Thought Book Club too, but have you noticed the top of the page here on Goodreads? Since the beginning of this month, there is a banner in pink across every page that says: “Celebrating Pride Month Discover New Books by LGBTQ+ Authors” Now we just celebrated Easter and Pentecost. Did they have a Celebrate Christ Rising Month? Of course not. There is no equal playing ground. The indoctrination of sexuality continues.

Is it worth complaining? And to who?


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Florian Dreveskracht | 1 comments Manny wrote: "I don't know where to put this, and I posted it at Catholic Thought Book Club too, but have you noticed the top of the page here on Goodreads? Since the beginning of this month, there is a banner i..."
I'm German (I don't know if it's much different in America), but our Interior Ministry recently hoisted the rainbow flag and proudly proclaimed it to the public, even though the state's constitution doesn't allow ANY ideological commitments.

In this case:
I'm used to the fact that on Amazon (Goodreads belongs to Amazon) you never get through to the people in charge. So you can complain, but don't expect to be listened to...

On the other hand: we can be happy that we Christians (especially us Catholics) are still "allowed" to express our opinions in a forum like this, but that of course doesn't mean that we don't have to fight for it - as they say in German: Wehret den Anfängen! (resist the beginnings!)

FD


message 5: by Mark (new)

Mark Baker | 64 comments Florian wrote: "even though the state's constitution doesn't allow ANY ideological commitments."

Other people's ideas are ideology. My ideas are truth.


message 6: by Fonch (last edited Jun 09, 2022 04:16AM) (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments Manny wrote: "I don't know where to put this, and I posted it at Catholic Thought Book Club too, but have you noticed the top of the page here on Goodreads? Since the beginning of this month, there is a banner i..."

Hello Manny i am happy that you are with us. Personally i do not like anything for me the LGTBI movement are a lobby promoted by the people with money that they do not worry the homosexual people they want to employ as an instrument of power. Generally this persons employ this movement to promote progressive an antichritian acts especially they are neomalthusian and they look for to reduce the birth and the family but in some generations this movement is condemned at least in Europe because this movement will be destroyed by the multiculturalism and the muslim religion they are opposite to the homosexual and they will pursue the homosexuals and their only protection will be the catholics because these lobbies will support the islam. In United State i think that they will continue with the racial clashes.

In my case i do not pay attention to this annyversaries and i employ to Goodreads to my objectives to read the best catholic and christian writers and to meet with good friends as you. For this reason goodreads is useful the advantage that we have is that we can choose the readings and i do not avoid any controversial topic indeed my reviews ocasionally are controversial but respectful and without hatred. PD. You can choose the genres in Goodreads i eliminated the tag gay and lesbian.


message 7: by Madeleine (new)

Madeleine Myers | 303 comments GR should put an X in the corner so we could get it off our pages.
Shouldn't be hard to do, I should think.


message 8: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments Madeleine wrote: "GR should put an X in the corner so we could get it off our pages.
Shouldn't be hard to do, I should think."


It would be a good option. In Spain i employ very much the cellular there is news that you can restrict and other not for instance eviromental change, LGTBI movement or some programme of a TV channel with a lot of power, perhaps this thing happens with Goodreads. I think behind of the LGTBI movement there was a lot power and money behind this movement.


message 9: by SUSAN (new)

SUSAN | 87 comments Yes, Fonch, you are right. The money and political power supports this movement which is really a tragedy and will be the cause of so much sorrow as it drags more souls away from God and turn them against their own nature. Everything is tainted with, as you said correctly, anti Christ.
Hello Florian and Manny, yes, resist the beginnings...and the middle and the end. We are, I'm afraid, well past the beginnings!! God bless and Mary preserve!


message 10: by Manny (new)

Manny (virmarl) | 41 comments SUSAN wrote: "Yes, Fonch, you are right. The money and political power supports this movement which is really a tragedy and will be the cause of so much sorrow as it drags more souls away from God and turn them ..."

Thank you Susan. Over at Catholic Thought, someone commented taking me to task for this complaint. And I responded kindly. Feel free to read, comments 615-620:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 11: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments In several decades the power of the money Will quit the LGTBI because Will not give money and they Will support the inmigrants and the Islam and the homosexuals Will have to seek protection in the Catholic Church. In my opinion they are employed to the People have not sons as the millonaires want.


message 12: by Elisabeth (new)

Elisabeth (the_world_through_catholiceyes) | 83 comments Yes, I find that banner very irritating.
But, I don't know if anyone has seen, it has been replaced by Discover the big books of summer-- at least temporarily.


message 13: by Stef (new)

Stef (stefoodie) | 73 comments On my iPad (where I access GR most of the time) I'm not seeing a banner (thank goodness). There's no escaping it especially during pride month, I'm afraid. :/ Grin and bear it? But I would happily go elsewhere if the group determines that there's a better place to be for Catholics just wanting to discuss books. Funny how we're not supposed to "impose" our beliefs on everyone but their beliefs are certainly imposed on us.


message 14: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments I agree with Stef.


message 15: by Manuel (new)

Manuel Alfonseca | 2361 comments Mod
Elisabeth wrote: "Yes, I find that banner very irritating.
But, I don't know if anyone has seen, it has been replaced by Discover the big books of summer-- at least temporarily."


Yes, I can see the same, a yellow banner with the following:
"Readers Most Anticipated Summer Books Discover these eagerly awaited reads!"

Yesterday I could see the pink banner. Perhaps protests have made Goodreads change their mind.


message 16: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments Sometimes is important to shout but politely


message 17: by Manny (new)

Manny (virmarl) | 41 comments I got the yellow banner now too.

"Sometimes is important to shout but politely." Great quote Fonch!


message 18: by Mariangel (new)

Mariangel | 717 comments I think goodreads changes the banner every 10 days (3 times per month).


message 19: by Elisabeth (new)

Elisabeth (the_world_through_catholiceyes) | 83 comments That makes sense.


message 20: by John (new)

John Seymour | 2297 comments Mod
Manuel wrote: "Yesterday I could see the pink banner. Perhaps protests have made Goodreads change their mind."

I doubt that very much. Any protests probably would have only made them leave it up longer than planned, to fight back against "hate."


message 21: by John (new)

John Seymour | 2297 comments Mod
Stef wrote: "On my iPad (where I access GR most of the time) I'm not seeing a banner (thank goodness). There's no escaping it especially during pride month, I'm afraid. :/ Grin and bear it? But I would happily ..."

This group started at Shelfari, which was also acquired by Amazon, then shut down. We had to decide where to go and ended up choosing Goodreads, but we lost a fair number of the original members. Until there is a Catholic, or at least Christian book discussion site, I wouldn't favor moving the group for two reasons: (1) There's no guaranty that any other site wouldn't be just as bad if not worse. (2) It would be very disruptive to the group.


message 22: by Mark (new)

Mark Baker | 64 comments John wrote: "Until there is a Catholic, or at least Christian book discussion site,..."

Why isn't there such a site, I wonder. Seems like the kind of project that someone like Joshua Hren might take on, with the resources of a Catholic university's IT department providing the infrastructure.


message 23: by John (new)

John Seymour | 2297 comments Mod
Manny wrote: "SUSAN wrote: "Yes, Fonch, you are right. The money and political power supports this movement which is really a tragedy and will be the cause of so much sorrow as it drags more souls away from God ..."

Manny, I thought your response was very nicely done. I amazes me how many people who consider themselves good faithful Catholics think that being supportive of the LGBT ideology is consistent with the Faith. It is nothing of the kind.


message 24: by Madeleine (new)

Madeleine Myers | 303 comments We tried to have a book club in our parish several years ago, started with about 12, most from within our prayer shawl ministry, called it Book and Hook and met at our nearest Barnes and Noble, met once a month. The idea began with book talk while we did needlework. We had ads in the parish bulletin and B & N newsletter, inviting drop-ins. We didn't restrict it to Catholic books, though, and often read recent best sellers. Most drop ins only stayed a few months, and finally there were just three of us and I was the only one who lived close. B & N became less supportive so we agreed to quit. Then I found the groups here, and have mentioned them often to the readers in our ministries, but have yet to see any of our parish people here.


message 25: by Stef (new)

Stef (stefoodie) | 73 comments On Facebook there's a Reshelving Alexandria group, where we discuss books all the time, but we're all homeschooling moms, and it's mostly Protestants, so it's missing the Catholic element. There's also the Catholic Book Worms group and Catholic Literary Geeks, in case any of you are on FB. I don't like that we're limited to secular sites but I'll take what I can get. Maybe also this is how we affect the culure, by staying in the spaces where people are... mission field, etc. :)


message 26: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments It is a question of time the topic of LGTBI is a Neomalthusian question for this reason is suppoted by the progressive millionaires but in few decades Will not remain anything of the LGTBI movement because it is not enough profitable. They are thinking in the next trojan horse the multiculturalism. In Europe it will not be the gayphobia it will be the islamphobia the New invention


message 27: by Kerstin (new)

Kerstin | 109 comments Madeleine wrote: "We tried to have a book club in our parish several years ago, started with about 12, most from within our prayer shawl ministry, called it Book and Hook and met at our nearest Barnes and Noble, met..."

Sometimes I wonder if people like the idea of a book club better than actually participating. When I announced in my choir that I help moderate a Catholic book club and that there are several on goodreads, everybody seemed interested. I invited everyone and have subsequently sent out emails informing of new reads, but so far nobody is participating. Of course I don't know who is silently looking in, but it kind of proves my point.


message 28: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments Well this is not the question but we have the same problem. We are a lot of People in Catholic Book Club but we are few People who participate us. At finally is a question of time, engagement, and at finally the People preffer to read the books that they want to read. Also the People are interested if that we read to they do not pay attention they Will not be here. At finally it is patience and the users do that they want.


message 29: by Kerstin (new)

Kerstin | 109 comments I agree, Fonch. All of this plays into the mix.


message 30: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments Of course for this reason we must play following with the rules. We must follow purposing books until we find a book that interest to the People. The secret is patience and hard work.


message 31: by Manuel (new)

Manuel Alfonseca | 2361 comments Mod
John wrote: "I wouldn't favor moving the group for two reasons: (1) There's no guaranty that any other site wouldn't be just as bad if not worse. (2) It would be very disruptive to the group."

I agree. And I would add another reason: Catholics shouldn't isolate themselves. The city of God should be interspersed with the city of the World, to give witness and try to convert as many people as possible.


message 32: by Mark (new)

Mark Baker | 64 comments Manuel wrote: "Catholics shouldn't isolate themselves. The city of God should be interspersed with the city of the World, to give witness and try to convert as many people as possible."

This. If we can't see them, they can't see us. So we have to put up with seeing them so that there is still a chance that they will see us.


message 33: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments Being sincere if Catholic Book Club had not been in Goodreads i had not never been able to meet you. With my situation Goodreads was once of the few aplications that i could afford and i was ever pleased for this reason.


message 34: by Fonch (new)

Fonch | 2419 comments Thanks to Goodreads we can be together despite living in different locations. The LGTBI i do not pay attention i only want to speak and write about good books especially catholic books. My big Dream is to collect and read the Best catholic and Christian writers and readers and thanks to Goodreads i can do it. In other circunstances this would be impossible.


message 35: by Asunción (new)

Asunción | 72 comments I agree with all those who say that we should remain here.

If we paid ear to all those who attack Catholicism and got hidden, we'd go against our faith. Catholic means universal.

I'm happy to have met people with the same principles as myself.


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