Lewis Carrol discussion

Waistcoat Poetry


Edward Lear & Lewis Carroll
on what waistcoats can do instead of what usually faces do:

There was an old man of Port Grigor,
Whose actions were noted for vigour;
He stood on his head
till his waistcoat turned red,
That eclectic old man of Port Grigor.
Edward Lear, 1872

He was black in the face,
and they scarcely could trace
The least likeness to what he had been:
While so great was his fright
that his waistcoat turned white -
A wonderful thing to be seen!
Lewis Carroll, from "The Hunting of the Snark", 1876



Has this already been discussed here or elsewhere?

Yes, elsewhere definitely,here maybe so lets do it again for good measure. What are your thoughts on the subject?

As for "elsewhere definitely", where would that be?

Somewhere, I remember this librarian in my home town told a whole class of middle schoolers that there was nothing new to be thought that hasn't already gone through someone elses mind or a discussion that hadn't already happened.

What on earth was she doing around young impressionable minds? I'll never know. I beleive we can bring new thoughts to a discussion, even this discussion, but it probably has been discussed before.

Charity wrote: "Somewhere, I remember this librarian in my home town told a whole class of middle schoolers that there was nothing new to be thought that hasn't already gone through someone elses mind or a discuss..."

Charity wrote: "What on earth was she doing around young impressionable minds? I'll never know. I beleive we can bring new thoughts to a discussion, even this discussion, but it probably has been discussed before."

Surely we can bring in new thoughts. In www.snrk.de I did that. That Snark hunt (focusing on Henry Holiday's and Joseph Swains illustrations) started six years ago. But I am also interested in thhoughts of others. Especially I wonder whether that "waiscoat" allusion by Carroll (to Lear) has been discussed previously.