The Importance of Reading Ernest discussion

What do you all think of the residents of the hotel? Are they representative, symbolic, or do they serve some sort of teaching purpose? Why did Hemingway include them?

teaching for what purpose exactly??

i guess i am going to have to go and read this again, and look deeper. i have time today. i have my project for my graduate class finished, emailed,and hope i get my A . i am feeling top notch right now!

Let's stab at the cast again. The threat of revolution is hanging in the air -- Graham Greene anyone -- the radical says the priests and the bulls are holding Spain back. Yet! the radical works as a waiter. Why is he a waiter in place filled with people from the bullring, and two priests?

All that shifting back and forth of point of view, while Paco is about to get a .... ?

dammit, stephen, you are gonna make me read it again!!!! back later!

Stephen wrote: "Let's stab at the cast again. The threat of revolution is hanging in the air -- Graham Greene anyone -- the radical says the priests and the bulls are holding Spain back. Yet! the radical works a..."

Stephen, just spill the beans please. Tell me why, please.

I possess no arcane knowledge of Hemingway's meaning in this story. I am just filling in for a friend.

Okay, I'll say what I think. The matador who has lost his nerve. Duh, you get gored, you're gonna watch those horns too. I mean, what more perfect example of the risk of a matador's life do you need?

They are all in some sort of slow degradation. The cinematic flashing back and forth of POV during the Paco ready to die scene, sets up so beautifully the on coming revolution. That's not even touching what a life in the ring did to all the people sitting in that dinning room.

They are each victims of the ring, and of Spain. Even the priests are victims of their own church. The church in Spain was awesomely corrupt prior to the revolution.

That's all.

bravo, stephen, bravo. encore!!! let it all hang out, baby!!

i love it all,and yes, i agree. in a way hemingway was a victim too. a victim of the publishing industry. getting that money from that next story or book,and to make ends meet.

i mean the man didn't really hold any other jobs,and he used others around him for money. even his wife pauline's family thought he was a free loading bum. they didn't mourn their divorce.in fact, in her parents home in piggott, arkansas they found all his books, first editions, all signed in the closet in a box. they didn't even take them out of the house!!! they didn't think much of him at all.

NOW did the dishwasher have a premonition? Why did he want to dissuade Paco? Now answer boys and girls, or I'll whip out a pop quiz.

ok, was enrique the dishwasher????

if so, it was because he knew paco would get hurt. using knives to poke at someone is just asking for trouble!

they way i see it is that things only happen when everything is in alignment....without it all aligning, paco wouldn't have suffered his fate. its true in life, and i think that hemingway was able to capture that in text without being too obvious about it.