Hugo & Nebula Awards: Best Novels discussion

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Best Novel
The City in the Middle of the Night, by Charlie Jane Anders (Tor; Titan)
Gideon the Ninth, by Tamsyn Muir (Tor.com Publishing)
The Light Brigade, by Kameron Hurley (Saga; Angry Robot UK)
A Memory Called Empire, by Arkady Martine (Tor; Tor UK)
Middlegame, by Seanan McGuire (Tor.com Publishing)
The Ten Thousand Doors of January, by Alix E. Harrow (Redhook; Orbit UK)

Best Novella
“Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom”, by Ted Chiang (Exhalation (Borzoi/Alfred A. Knopf; Picador))
The Deep, by Rivers Solomon, with Daveed Diggs, William Hutson & Jonathan Snipes (Saga Press/Gallery)
The Haunting of Tram Car 015, by P. Djèlí Clark (Tor.com Publishing)
In an Absent Dream, by Seanan McGuire (Tor.com Publishing)
This Is How You Lose the Time War, by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone (Saga Press; Jo Fletcher Books)
To Be Taught, If Fortunate, by Becky Chambers (Harper Voyager; Hodder & Stoughton)

Best Novelette
“The Archronology of Love”, by Caroline M. Yoachim (Lightspeed, April 2019)
“Away With the Wolves”, by Sarah Gailey (Uncanny Magazine: Disabled People Destroy Fantasy Special Issue, September/October 2019)
“The Blur in the Corner of Your Eye”, by Sarah Pinsker (Uncanny Magazine, July-August 2019)
Emergency Skin, by N.K. Jemisin (Forward Collection (Amazon))
“For He Can Creep”, by Siobhan Carroll (Tor.com, 10 July 2019)
“Omphalos”, by Ted Chiang (Exhalation (Borzoi/Alfred A. Knopf; Picador))

Best Short Story
“And Now His Lordship Is Laughing”, by Shiv Ramdas (Strange Horizons, 9 September 2019)
“As the Last I May Know”, by S.L. Huang (Tor.com, 23 October 2019)
“Blood Is Another Word for Hunger”, by Rivers Solomon (Tor.com, 24 July 2019)
“A Catalog of Storms”, by Fran Wilde (Uncanny Magazine, January/February 2019)
“Do Not Look Back, My Lion”, by Alix E. Harrow (Beneath Ceaseless Skies, January 2019)
“Ten Excerpts from an Annotated Bibliography on the Cannibal Women of Ratnabar Island”, by Nibedita Sen (Nightmare Magazine, May 2019)

Best Series
The Expanse, by James S. A. Corey (Orbit US; Orbit UK)
InCryptid, by Seanan McGuire (DAW)
Luna, by Ian McDonald (Tor; Gollancz)
Planetfall series, by Emma Newman (Ace; Gollancz)
Winternight Trilogy, by Katherine Arden (Del Rey; Del Rey UK)
The Wormwood Trilogy, by Tade Thompson (Orbit US; Orbit UK)

Best Related Work
Becoming Superman: My Journey from Poverty to Hollywood, by J. Michael Straczynski (Harper Voyager US)
Joanna Russ, by Gwyneth Jones (University of Illinois Press (Modern Masters of Science Fiction))
The Lady from the Black Lagoon: Hollywood Monsters and the Lost Legacy of Milicent Patrick, by Mallory O’Meara (Hanover Square)
The Pleasant Profession of Robert A. Heinlein, by Farah Mendlesohn (Unbound)
“2019 John W. Campbell Award Acceptance Speech”, by Jeannette Ng
Worlds of Ursula K. Le Guin, produced and directed by Arwen Curry

Best Graphic Story or Comic
Die, Volume 1: Fantasy Heartbreaker, by Kieron Gillen and Stephanie Hans, letters by Clayton Cowles (Image)
LaGuardia, written by Nnedi Okorafor, art by Tana Ford, colours by James Devlin (Berger Books; Dark Horse)
Monstress, Volume 4: The Chosen, written by Marjorie Liu, art by Sana Takeda (Image)
Mooncakes, by Wendy Xu and Suzanne Walker, letters by Joamette Gil (Oni Press; Lion Forge)
Paper Girls, Volume 6, written by Brian K. Vaughan, drawn by Cliff Chiang, colours by Matt Wilson, letters by Jared K. Fletcher (Image)
The Wicked + The Divine, Volume 9: Okay, by Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie, colours by Matt Wilson, letters by Clayton Cowles (Image)

Only a few of my nominations made it. Just like in the past.

Looks like my Nebula predictions would've been better suite for the Hugos this year. I still have a lot of reading to do!

I've read all novels, my first time for Hugos!

One thing that surprised and maybe even slightly angered me is that in best related work we have “2019 John W. Campbell Award Acceptance Speech”, by Jeannette Ng

Firstly, I thought the speech was problematic, like using word 'fascist' for anything the speaker doesn't like and mixing Astounding stories and Astonishing Stories. Secondly, other author put a lot more work into research and writing books to have them on par with 2 min speech. At the same time, I admit, the speech reached a larger share of fandom and even caused the name change for the award.

The fact that the speech made it to the list I connect with group effort of activists, like Puppies but from the left
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I've read all but one of the novelette and short story nominees. Two of the novel nominees I have yet to read, but I'm not sure I go for Seanan McGuire unless she wins ...

How about retros?

Allan wrote: "How about retros?"

Good point, it wasn't in the article.
Here it is:
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Best Novel
The Golden Fleece, by Robert Graves (Cassell)
Land of Terror, by Edgar Rice Burroughs (Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc.)
“Shadow Over Mars” (The Nemesis from Terra), by Leigh Brackett (Startling Stories, Fall 1944)
Sirius: A Fantasy of Love and Discord, by Olaf Stapledon (Secker & Warburg)
The Wind on the Moon, by Eric Linklater (Macmillan)
“The Winged Man”, by A.E. van Vogt and E. Mayne Hull (Astounding Science Fiction, May-June 1944)

Best Novella
“The Changeling”, by A.E. van Vogt (Astounding Science Fiction, April 1944)
“A God Named Kroo”, by Henry Kuttner (Thrilling Wonder Stories, Winter 1944)
“Intruders from the Stars”, by Ross Rocklynne (Amazing Stories, January 1944)
“The Jewel of Bas”, by Leigh Brackett (Planet Stories, Spring 1944)
“Killdozer!”, by Theodore Sturgeon (Astounding Science Fiction, November 1944)
“Trog”, by Murray Leinster (Astounding Science Fiction, June 1944)

Best Novelette
“Arena”, by Fredric Brown (Astounding Science Fiction, June 1944)
“The Big and the Little” (“The Merchant Princes”), by Isaac Asimov (Astounding Science Fiction, August 1944)
“The Children’s Hour”, by Lawrence O’Donnell (C.L. Moore and Henry Kuttner) (Astounding Science Fiction, March 1944)
“City”, by Clifford D. Simak (Astounding Science Fiction, May 1944)
“No Woman Born”, by C.L. Moore (Astounding Science Fiction, December 1944)
“When the Bough Breaks”, by Lewis Padgett (C.L. Moore and Henry Kuttner) (Astounding Science Fiction, November 1944)

Best Short Story
“And the Gods Laughed”, by Fredric Brown (Planet Stories, Spring 1944)
“Desertion”, by Clifford D. Simak (Astounding Science Fiction, November 1944)
“Far Centaurus”, by A. E. van Vogt (Astounding Science Fiction, January 1944)
“Huddling Place”, by Clifford D. Simak (Astounding Science Fiction, July 1944)
“I, Rocket”, by Ray Bradbury (Amazing Stories, May 1944)
“The Wedge” (“The Traders”), by Isaac Asimov (Astounding Science Fiction, October 1944)

Best Series
Captain Future, by Brett Sterling
The Cthulhu Mythos, by H. P. Lovecraft, August Derleth, and others
Doc Savage, by Kenneth Robeson/Lester Dent
Jules de Grandin, by Seabury Quinn
Pellucidar, by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Shadow, by Maxwell Grant (Walter B. Gibson)

Best Related Work
Fancyclopedia, by Jack Speer (Forrest J. Ackerman)
’42 To ’44: A Contemporary Memoir Upon Human Behavior During the Crisis of the World Revolution, by H.G. Wells (Secker & Warburg)
Mr. Tompkins Explores the Atom, by George Gamow (Cambridge University Press)
Rockets: The Future of Travel Beyond the Stratosphere, by Willy Ley (Viking Press)
“The Science-Fiction Field”, by Leigh Brackett (Writer’s Digest, July 1944)
“The Works of H.P. Lovecraft: Suggestions for a Critical Appraisal”, by Fritz Leiber (The Acolyte, Fall 1944)

Best Graphic Story or Comic
Buck Rogers: “Hollow Planetoid”, by Dick Calkins (National Newspaper Service)
Donald Duck: “The Mad Chemist”, by Carl Barks (Dell Comics)
Flash Gordon: “Battle for Tropica”, by Alex Raymond (King Features Syndicate)
Flash Gordon: “Triumph in Tropica”, by Alex Raymond (King Features Syndicate)
The Spirit: “For the Love of Clara Defoe”, by Manly Wade Wellman, Lou Fine and Don Komisarow (Register and Tribune Syndicate)
Superman: “The Mysterious Mr. Mxyztplk”, by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster (Detective Comics, Inc.)

Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form
The Canterville Ghost, screenplay by Edwin Harvey Blum from a story by Oscar Wilde, directed by Jules Dassin (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM))
The Curse of the Cat People, written by DeWitt Bodeen, directed by Gunther V. Fritsch and Robert Wise (RKO Radio Pictures)
Donovan’s Brain, adapted by Robert L. Richards from a story by Curt Siodmak, producer, director and editor William Spier (CBS Radio Network)
House of Frankenstein, screenplay by Edward T. Lowe, Jr. from a story by Curt Siodmak, directed by Erle C. Kenton (Universal Pictures)
The Invisible Man’s Revenge, written by Bertram Millhauser, directed by Ford Beebe (Universal Pictures)
It Happened Tomorrow, screenplay and adaptation by Dudley Nichols and René Clair, directed by René Clair (Arnold Pressburger Films)

Best Editor, Short Form
John W. Campbell, Jr.
Oscar J. Friend
Mary Gnaedinger
Dorothy McIlwraith
Raymond A. Palmer
W. Scott Peacock

Best Professional Artist
Earle Bergey
Margaret Brundage
Boris Dolgov
Matt Fox
Paul Orban
William Timmins

Best Fanzine
The Acolyte, edited by Francis T. Laney and Samuel D. Russell
Diablerie, edited by Bill Watson
Futurian War Digest, edited by J. Michael Rosenblum
Shangri L’Affaires, edited by Charles Burbee
Voice of the Imagi-Nation, edited by Forrest J. Ackerman and Myrtle R. Douglas
Le Zombie, edited by Bob Tucker and E.E. Evans

Best Fan Writer
Fritz Leiber
Morojo/Myrtle R. Douglas
J. Michael Rosenblum
Jack Speer
Bob Tucker
Harry Warner, Jr.

Oleksandr wrote: "One thing that surprised and maybe even slightly angered me is that in best related work we have “2019 John W. Campbell Award Acceptance Speech”..."

Yep, this is really silly. I will not be voting for a speech over works that authors or creators poured themselves into over months or years. I am worried though, because given that it got enough nomination votes to get on the shortlist, there's clearly enough people willing to vote for it that it could actually win. And it takes a hell of a lot less effort for voters to "consume" the speech than the other works, so it's got the low-hanging-fruit thing going for it.

I don't agree that there's an equivalent orchestrated manipulative effort on the left akin to the Puppies, though. It's just where the SFF fanbase is at organically these days.

Kalin wrote: "I don't agree that there's an equivalent orchestrated manipulative effort on the left akin to the Puppies, though. It's just where the SFF fanbase is at organically these days.."

Yes, I agree, I overstressed. There is extremely likely the group that pushed this nomination, but unlike Puppies they are unlikely to have slates for all works. I guess it was more like a twitter campaign, for I doubt that a lot of people independently decided to include it.

Agreed, it’s just Puppy backlash, not worthy of an award.

I’ve put the 2020’s and 1945’s into my version of the spreadsheet and will put it on the google drive later today.