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message 1: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) Hello, long time no post from me! So I read up on the LBRP and I have a question. It appears that the ritual includes using the names of the Hebrew god. However, I do not believe the Hebrew god is actually divine. I also don't believe in the archangels.

my question is: is there an alternate version of the LBRP that does not use Hebrew god names or angels? Does it matter if I believe in them or not, or is it more the principle/power behind it?

thanks.


message 2: by Toviel (last edited Jun 25, 2020 12:32PM) (new)

Toviel (exagge) | 65 comments Are you Hermetic?

The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram ordinates from the Golden Dawn, and A LOT of their ceremonial magic is based off of Jewish kabbalah and Christian esotericism. It's almost impossible to escape Hebrew influences in anything based off of their practice. If you're following a Hermetic tradition, but don't want any Christian influence, maybe... reconsider? The names are words are key to achieving certain spiritual vibrations.

If you're not in one of those traditions and just need something to clear your space before doing magic work, there's plenty of alternatives out there. Most people I know who do LBRP do it to clear their mind and meditate before ceremony. If you like the ritual itself, you're welcome to substitute the archangels and Hebrew with whatever you'd prefer.


message 3: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) Toviel wrote: "Are you Hermetic?

The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram ordinates from the Golden Dawn, and A LOT of their ceremonial magic is based off of Jewish kabbalah and Christian esotericism. It's a..."


I'm not following a hermetic tradition but I am reading a book by Frater UD and he suggests doing it

he also says you don't have to believe in god or the hebrew god to do it so I am probably just gonna go with it


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