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ANALYZING COVID CONTROLS > Is the 2020-21 Corona saga a psy-op? (Designed to modify human behaviour?)

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message 1: by James, Group Founder (last edited Jul 04, 2020 07:04AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments With all the bombardment of fear so far this year, with all the divisions that are forming in humanity between those who are true Corona believers and are willing to have repeated lockdowns just to become "safe", and those who think the measures are an insane overreaction, I wonder about the psychological aspect of the measures.

Consider that it is changing human behaviour and altering our minds. With proposals of tracking us all 24/7, needing to wear masks and/or gloves everytime we go outside, carring digital IDs and "CovidPassports" with all our medical history on them, plus coming (mandatory?) vaccines and and even microchips, are we slowly being coerced into agreeing to things that we otherwise would not agree to?

I believe it was Winston Churchill who said "Never let a good crisis go to waste" -- therefore, I am not saying this has all been a PLANdemic or engineered necessarily, but that opportunism is also a possibility. After all, opportunism is kinda human nature.

Psychological operations (PSYOP) are operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychol...

P.S. I put 2020 in the heading for "Corona saga", hopefully i won't eventually need to add 2021, 22, 23 etc, or even the 2020s!!!


message 2: by James, Group Founder (last edited Jul 04, 2020 06:40AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments This event is happening in poorer communities (public housing buildings) here in Melbourne, Australia right now... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIuzK...

They've had an outbreak (no more deaths just more cases) and so the govt is locking down much of Melbourne all over again

Feels like an experiment going on...As what's happening is about 30% are refusing to be tested (under Australian law they cannot force you to take any medical test)...So the government has told the residents will be locked in for 14 days if not everyone gets tested (locked in completely, not even allowed in hallways I don't think), OR for only 5 days if everyone gets tested... Almost seems like a peer pressure scenario where some residents could find out which of the other residents are refusing to be tested -- and then bully them or otherwise coerce them into changing their mind...

Mental health professionals are also on the site...Which could be used to help, or hinder, residents depending if this is an innocent, or nefarious, event...

I don't trust this scenario to be honest, as residents are not allowed outside at all for the next 5-14 days...That fits the torture textbook...Basically solitary confinement or house arrest, plus under stress as these residents cannot earn money either and many are stressed and confused. These are the type of human rights violations I am concerned about -- this could easily become our way of life in medium or even long term future...

It could also be a televised warning for others who would never get tested...


message 3: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The Universal Declaration of Human Rights provides in article 9 that “no one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile”. Article 9(1) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights states: “Everyone has the right to liberty"


message 4: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments It's horribly likely that you're correct. Opportunism at the very least.


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Debby Kean | 165 comments Melbourne is terrifying! I hope our Fuhrerin doesn't get any ideas.


message 6: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Melbourne is getting scary, Debby
I'm in Sydney so this could be me next...


message 7: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments I seriously hope not! I read an horrific story in the NZ Herald earlier tonight, I shall see if I can find a link.


message 9: by Graham (new)

Graham Bear | 0 comments Read David Icke's books. All of this plandemic scamdemic is comprehensively covered . Soros Gates Rothschild Rockefeller.

Icke's books for over 25 years cover mass vaccinations and microchipping

BLM is funded by them .
Take the knee.2020

David Icke's book
Human Race get off your knees 2010

is very apt.


message 10: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Peter Hitchens: We've all turned from normal humans into muzzled masochists https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

When this madness began, I behaved as if a new and fanatical religion was spreading among us. Be polite and tolerant, I thought. It may be crazy and damaging but in time it will go away.

Now it is clear that a new faith, based on fear of the invisible and quite immune to reason, has all but taken over the country. And it turns out to be one of those faiths that doesn't have much tolerance for those who don't share it.

My guess is that about 85 per cent of the population now worship it and will continue to do so. The rest of us are, as each day goes by, a persecuted minority, forced to go along with beliefs we do not hold.

Its evangelists will not leave you and me alone, but constantly seek to force us to join. This is why I make such a fuss about the demand to make us all wear muzzles. This is not about health.

There is simply not enough evidence to compel us to do so. It is an attempt to force submission on Covid unbelievers.

That is why it spreads, despite the absence of any good case for it. In a creepy development, one of the most powerful scientific papers arguing against it, Why Face Masks Don't Work: A Revealing Review, last week suddenly vanished from its usual place on the internet (I still have a copy and you may read it here

https://web.archive.org/web/202005090...

Scotland's tinpot despot, Nicola Sturgeon, now demands that muzzles are worn in shops, as well as on public transport, north of the border.

In Texas, of all states, the governor seeks to make muzzles compulsory in all public places. The tiny-circulation Guardian newspaper, which just so happens to be the house journal of the BBC, absurdly compares muzzles to seat belts (proven a million times to save lives, beyond any doubt) and demands in its main editorial 'Cover your face'.

The BBC is then careful to report this prominently. Do not be surprised if the Government soon follows. Yet, as the Government's own documents and experts have repeatedly said, evidence for the usefulness of these muzzles is weak. The Department for Business and Enterprise says clearly: 'The evidence of the benefit of using a face covering to protect others is weak and the effect is likely to be small.'

This obsession with telling us how to look, and turning us from normal humans into submissive, mouthless flock animals all decked out in a compulsory uniform is, in my view, part of an unprecedented assault on our personal liberty in general. Stay at home. Stop working. Don't see your friends or relatives. Submit, submit, submit. Get used to being told what to do.

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/


message 11: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Teams of "behavioural scientists" are now roaming the streets of UK! This is in line with the many psychiatrists on site in the Melbourne buildings in 2020's most extreme lockdown (globally) to date...Uh oh, looking more and more like a psy-op guys...

Patrols to see if Leicester people are following local lockdown rules https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/ne...

Public Health England’s Nick Phin today said that the team of behavioural scientists are working within the city to see if people are observing social distancing and other guidelines.

If people are not, targeted measures and communications will be used to reinforce the stay home and two metres messages.

“We’ll need to see evidence of behavioural change,” he said.


message 12: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Okay this is getting serious now... This ain't funny anymore... These are some of Australia's poorest and most vulnerable people... refugees, immigrants, mentally ill, single mothers and recently abused women trying to get back on their feet etc... Treating them like dogs! Remember, Australia is introducing "TOTAL lockdown"... The most severe quarantine (globally) of 2020 so far...

Locked-down resident in Melbourne bites police officer as he tries to leave tower https://7news.com.au/news/victoria-po...


message 13: by Graham (new)

Graham Bear | 0 comments it is a scamdemic. it is a plandemic . it is a psyop


message 14: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments James Morcan, I have had for 3 days now, about 15 people on Facebook calling me everything from stupid to evil, because I said that wearing masks won't help you avoid infection. Very like a new religion! I even have family attacking me.


message 15: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments These are insane times, Debby. Many self proclaimed critical thinkers are exhibiting anything but rational thought. And those trying to stop necessary debates will eventually be exposed...


message 16: by Anni (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments I just cannot understand how so many supposedly intelligent or educated people have been scammed into behaving like zombies over this plandemic. And the fact that most medical professionals are complicit in the obvious nonsense of mask wearing is the most worrisome aspect of all - my daughter in law is one of them. It is truly a malevolent psyop attack on the human race.


message 17: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Anni, sadly you are right! What kind of future will we see? I Fear a huge increase in anxiety and stress and depression.


message 18: by Anni (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments I agree, Debbie. I fear for my grandchild’s future. Making children self distance, as is happening in UK schools now, will ruin their mental well-being.


message 19: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The potential health risks VERSUS the coming devastation of the health measures being taken, is the debate we should be having.

In other words, are the 2020 lockdowns and other restrictions gonna be worth it?


message 20: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments James wrote: "In other words, are the 2020 lockdowns and other restrictions gonna be worth it? ..."

if it leads to this, i don't think it'll have been worth it...
https://www.goodreads.com/photo/group...


message 21: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Anni, yes, I am frightened for the children


message 22: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Listen to this! "the quicker we test you, the sooner we can release you from your homes"... I'd be interested to know under Australian law if you can blackmail or coerce people like that to take any medical test...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCa0p5oJY_X/


message 23: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Are we being indoctrinated into a new CULT? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkWyv...


message 24: by James, Group Founder (last edited Jul 16, 2020 09:31AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The Parasitic Occult Initiation Rituals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoRXv...

Awareness can break the spell. We are witnessing a massive social engineering project to completely change everyone. Well, that appears to be the plan. It's worth looking into this so you don't fall victim and become a sleep walker like so many.

Occult Ritual Transformation and Coronavirus: How Mask Wearing, Hand Washing, “Social Separation” and Lockdowns Are Age-Old Occult Rituals Being Used to Initiate People Into a New Global Order
https://haveyenotread.com/occult-ritu...

The characteristics of an initiation ritual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVG8...

The Isolated individual and the crowd beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBgbI...


message 25: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Your Body is Their Weapon - We're all Patients Now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeVf8...

As a follow on to my "Is This Torture?" video, I discuss the way The Medical Tyranny is turning us all into Chronic Illness Outpatients. I rely on an excellent article by Sam Vaknin called "The Body As A Torture Chamber" and I apply his arguments to what is happening with the #Pandemic response.


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Rachel Nicole (rachelnicole_reads) | 4 comments 100%


message 27: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments 5G Technology and induction of coronavirus in skin cells https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHP1k...


message 28: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Masks Are a Psychological Preparation for Mandatory Vaccinations https://www.globalresearch.ca/masks-p...

"You have no right not to be vaccinated. You have no right not to wear a mask. You have no right to open up your business …. If you refuse to be vaccinated, the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor’s office and plunge a needle into your arm." —Alan Dershowitz

Dershowitz, as in the Epstein island regular :)


message 29: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Horowitz: CDC: 25% of young adults seriously considered suicide during lockdown https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowi...

According to a brand-new CDC report titled "Mental Health, Substance Use, and Suicidal Ideation During the COVID-19 Pandemic," 25.5% of 18-24-year-olds surveyed in late June had serious thoughts about committing suicide during the previous 30 days. Among 25-44-year-olds, that number was 16% – still shockingly high. On the other hand, it was just 3.8% among those 45-64 and 2.0% among those over 65. The levels of suicidal tendencies overall more than doubled since 2018 and nearly quadrupled for people between 25 and 44.


message 30: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The Strange Link Between Pandemics and Psychosis https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5...
Scientists are looking more closely at how viruses and infections could influence our minds.

"By 1919, the Spanish Flu pandemic had spread influenza to a third of the world's population, or around 500 million people. Psychiatrist Karl Menninger was treating people at Boston Psychopathic Hospital who'd recently been infected. But his patients had symptoms far beyond what's usually associated with the flu. In a paper on 100 cases he saw over three months, he described seeing extreme mental disturbances—over half of his patients had some sort of psychosis, and almost two-thirds had hallucinations."


message 31: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Extract from a scary article I just read by C J Hopkins, in Cold Type 212: " dare to challenge their official
narrative as “extremists”, “Nazis”,
“conspiracy theorists”, “Covidi-
ots”. “coronavirus deniers,” “anti-
vaxxers,” and “esoteric” freaks.
One German official even went so
far as to demand that dissidents be
deported … presumably on trains
to somewhere in the East.
Despite this increasing totali-
tarianisation and pathologisation
of virtually everything, the New
Normals will carry on with their
lives as if everything were … well,
completely normal. They will go
out to restaurants and the movies
in their masks. They will work, eat,
and sleep in their masks. Families
will go on holiday in their masks,
or in their “Personal Protective
Upper-Body Bubble-Wear”.
They will arrive at the airport
eight hours early, stand in their
little colour-coded boxes, and then
follow the arrows on the floor to
the “health officials” in the hazmat
suits, who will take their tempera-
ture through their foreheads and
shove ten-inch swabs into their
sinus cavities.
Parents who wish to forego this
experience will have the option to
preventatively vaccinate them-
selves and their children with
the latest experimental vaccine
(after signing a liability waiver, of
course) within a week or so before
their flights, and then present the
officials with proof of vaccination
(and of their compliance with vari-
ous other “health guidelines”) on
their digital Identity and Public
Health Passports, or subdermal
biometric chips.
Children, as always, will suf-
fer the worst of it. They will be
terrorised and confused from the
moment they are born, by their
parents, their teachers, and by
society at large. They will be sub-
jected to ideological conditioning
and paranoid behavioural modi-
fication at every stage of their so-
cialisation … with fanciful reusable
corporate plague masks branded
with lovable cartoon characters,
paranoia-inducing picture books
for toddlers, and paranoid “social
distancing” rituals, among other
forms of psychological torture.
This conditioning (or torture)
will take place at home, as there
will be no more schools, or rather,
no public schools. The children of
the wealthy will attend private
schools, where they can be cost-
effectively “socially-distanced”.
Working class children will sit at
home, alone, staring into screens,
wearing their masks, their hy-
peractivity and anxiety disorders
stabilised with anti-depressant
medications.
And so on … I think you get the
picture. I hope so, because I don’t
have the heart to go on.
I pray this glimpse into the New
Normal future has terrified and
angered you enough to rise up
against it before it is too late. This
isn’t a joke, folks. The New Nor-
mals are serious. If you cannot see
where their movement is headed,
you do not understand totalitari-
anism. Once it starts, and reaches
this stage, it does not stop, not with-
out a fight. It continues to its logi-
cal conclusion. The way that usu-
ally happens is, people tell them-
selves it isn’t happening, it can’t
be happening, not to us. They tell
themselves this as the totalitarian
programme is implemented, step
by step, one seemingly harmless
step at a time. They conform, be-
cause, at first, the stakes aren’t so
high, and their conformity leads
to more conformity, and the next
thing they know they’re telling
their grandchildren that they had
no idea where the trains were go-
ing.
If you have made it through to
the end of this essay, your mind
hasn’t been taken over yet … the
New Normals clicked off around
paragraph two. What that means
is that it is your responsibility to
speak up, and to do whatever else
you can, to stop the New Normal fu-
ture from becoming a reality. You
will not be rewarded for it. You will
be ridiculed and castigated for it.
Your New Normal friends will hate
you for it. Your New Normal fam-
ily will forsake you for it. The New
Normal police might arrest you for
it. It is your responsibility to do it
anyway … as, of course, it is also
mine. CT"


message 32: by Anni (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments I agree with everything in relation to the above - see also:-

https://youtu.be/CI7NfaNNT5Y
By Katie Hopkins (not aware of any relation to C J Hopkins)

You are in deep trouble in NZ - probably the test-bed case because all the wealthy Globalists are heading there?

You are not alone, Debby!


message 33: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments I think you're right Anni, something is being trialled here in NZ (and OZ too I think).

It's also interesting how NZ PM Ardern was broadcast internationally in headline news as some type of heroine for the people... Seems like NZ is a country the Radical Left want to create an example of? Their ideal country in terms of Rona measures, perhaps?


message 34: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Anni wrote: "I agree with everything in relation to the above - see also:-

https://youtu.be/CI7NfaNNT5Y
By Katie Hopkins (not aware of any relation to C J Hopkins)

You are in deep trouble in NZ - probably the..."


Anni, I wish one of the TV networks would screen this in NZ. Anyone who dares question the govt. narrative here is accused of being a dreaded conspiracy theorist and this is perpetuated by our meek media who are little more than a mouthpiece for the authorities. (Spoken as a former journo who was around when investigative journalism was alive and well in this country). Much like if anyone questions Maori actions (such as tearing down public statues or setting up roadblocks manned by gang members on public roads) they are branded a racist. It's all part of the disturbing trend Left I fear.

P.S. This worldwide trend Left is a natural reaction to the way capitalism was or is heading with the gap tween the haves and have-nots widening at the speed of light. It's not nice, but it is kinda understandable. I look forward to the day the economic seesaw is more evenly balanced.


message 35: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments I see the Guardian reports "Katie Hopkins has been permanently removed from Twitter."


message 36: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Anni, thank you!


message 37: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1422 comments Lance, as you might expect, I disagree in part. The problem with the media in NZ is that it is largely owned by foreign corporations who have simply fired most of the journalists to save money. The classic case was Bauer, who simply closed down all their magazines and left, taking with them, I suspect, all the money from subscriptions yet to run. They were even advertizing significant subscription discounts for 3-year subscriptions weeks before they fled. So it isn't so much that journos are meek - it is merely they are no longer there.

The other problem is that by and large, governments don't really govern. Since about the time of Reagan, the world-wide trend has been to get governments out of governing. Yes, they may still have a big output of restrictive silly laws, but there is seldom much to do something about big business or interest groups. In NZ no politician will say anything against Maori interests because hey, that could lose votes or have you called a racist, irrespective of how sensible the point is. And whatever, don't increase taxes on the rich and don't stop them from firing workers. So the system is feeding on itself.


message 38: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Ian wrote: "Lance, as you might expect, I disagree in part. The problem with the media in NZ is that it is largely owned by foreign corporations who have simply fired most of the journalists to save money. The..."

Ian I agree with much of that, but the journos are still there. I see them every day at the Covid-19 news conferences our Cindy stages and I hear few if any hard questions posed by them. The nearest to anything in depth I've seen or heard lately has been exposes on "What's behind these flaky Covid conspiracy theories now doing the rounds?" The 'theories' they refer to concern anyone who dares question the Government's line.


message 39: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1422 comments Lance, when I see the size of my morning newspaper and compare it with what it used to be I am far from convinced they are all still there. As for whether the government was right with its Covid-19 policy, I think that at least they tried a coherent policy. Whether it was the right one will take some time to evaluate. Interestingly, I was reading a book recently that showed it was only about now we are getting to grips with the true economic consequences of WW II !


message 40: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Lance Morcan, You are right! The constant ranting about conspiracy theories gets on my last nerve


message 41: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Debby wrote: "Lance Morcan, You are right! The constant ranting about conspiracy theories gets on my last nerve"

Hey Debby - Quick tip: No need to address fellow Undergrounders by their full name... Just click "Reply" to their messages and we'll know who you're referring to. (Smile)...


message 42: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Lance wrote: "Ian wrote: "Lance, as you might expect, I disagree in part. The problem with the media in NZ is that it is largely owned by foreign corporations who have simply fired most of the journalists to sav..."

Ian - Overall you are right when you say journo numbers are well down on years gone by. That's a reflection of tighter margins for media outlets, publishers etc. and the related and increasing reliance on contributed articles and reports from the PR agencies, the comms departments of the corporates and govt. departments etc. and from a myriad of other spin merchants who each have their own agendas.

These contributions account for 90%+ of the daily news articles we read, see and hear. I know from personal experience (as a former journo and PR consultant) that mainstream media journos who profess to be investigative reporters often change a few words in a contributed article or report and claim it as their own... and we the consumers don't realise that. Thank God for alternative news outlets...


message 43: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments "It's about to GET SAVAGE" 👁 | Hurry and Watch! | OMG! 😮 | Ralph Smart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF7Ht...


message 44: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Lance, the problem is that I don't have a computer, I am doing this on my phone (sometimes Tablet) and there's no reply button in these things!


message 45: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Debby wrote: "Lance, the problem is that I don't have a computer, I am doing this on my phone (sometimes Tablet) and there's no reply button in these things!"

Dayam, I didn't realise that. I'm still trying to master my computer... Yet to progress to my phone!


message 46: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments HUGE SHOCK! 😱 | Something BIG is About to Happen. 👁 | Hurry And Watch | OMG! | Ralph Smart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxbzW...


message 47: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Piers Corbyn Denies the Coronavirus Pandemic & Says It's a 'Psychological Operation' | GMB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elf6h...


message 48: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments You win this video game by killing "Covidiots"...So what does this do to young children's minds??

"Corona World" Video Game Lets You Kill the Covidiots! - #PropagandaWatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDzGj...


message 49: by Anni (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments James wrote: "Piers Corbyn Denies the Coronavirus Pandemic & Says It's a 'Psychological Operation' | GMB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elf6h..."

He seems a lot more sensible than his brother Jeremy!


message 50: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments James Morcan, that video game is horrific! I spent hours today arguing with a teenager who insisted he is an anarchist, but he's actually author and wants to believe that the disease will kill hundreds of thousands if not for masks and lockdowns


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