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Sylvia's Lovers by Elizabeth Gaskell.



I will either read Charlotte Bronte's novel or I can pick Madame Bovary by Guastave Flaubert. I don't know much short stories of Victorian authors. Does anybody have recommendations for it?

I will either read Charlotte Bronte's novel or I can pick Madame Bovary by Guastave Flaubert. I don't know much short stories of Vic..."
Dickens and Gaskell both have some good short stories.




Short story which I need to find:


My choice for now is:
Commonplace, and Other Short Stories
And my recommendation for fans of Emily Brontë is:
Gondal's Queen: A Novel in Verse
(I've written about this book on my blog)
:)

I wanted to read something short. I considered Dickens and Gaskell, but I have big books by them, which I am holding off on. I considered The Hunting of the Snark by Lewis Carol, but that's a poem rather than a short story. H.G. Wells' Victorian science fiction books are fairly short, but I have already read them. Oscar Wilde and Joseph Conrad wrote short stories, but I am already reading them this Victober. I considered a Sherlock Holmes case, but actually I cannot consider Sir Arthur Conan Doyle a favourite author. I read him as a teenager, but not since. I thought about reading The Man Who Would Be King by Rudyard Kipling. I have watched the film but not read it. Then I found out I had not read all the stories in the Jungle Book. I must have read an abridged version years ago which only included the Mowgli story, so I will read at least one short story from that. It's a bit confusing because there are two jungle books. I thought the first was just about Mowgli and the other contained the short stories, but the first contains short stories as well.









Dana, The Canterville Ghost is great fun.


Today I watched the 2009 adaptation Dorian Gray starring Colin Firth as Lord Henry Wotton. Unfortunately, the movie rewrote crucial episodes and ruined the ending.

Amelia wrote: "I know I can make my own rules here, but officially speaking it must be an author from the British Empire of the Victorian era, is that right?"
That's the way I understand it. I think Katie said an author from Britain or Ireland, but then she has read Mary Seacole who was born in Jamaica. I am reading Rudyard Kipling, who was born in India, and Joseph Conrad, who was a Pole who took out British citizenship. I would have said a Victorian was any of Queen Victoria's subjects, whether they liked it or not. I am not sure about Henry James, because he was an American citizen, but he lived a lot of his life in England.
That's the way I understand it. I think Katie said an author from Britain or Ireland, but then she has read Mary Seacole who was born in Jamaica. I am reading Rudyard Kipling, who was born in India, and Joseph Conrad, who was a Pole who took out British citizenship. I would have said a Victorian was any of Queen Victoria's subjects, whether they liked it or not. I am not sure about Henry James, because he was an American citizen, but he lived a lot of his life in England.

Myself I tried to get Edith Wharton to be applicable to this Victorian challenge but she does not fit at all. Despite my devotion to her! Love her so hard! She is so American. & James wrote about or from the perspective of Americans abroad even though he resided in England so I think this is why he may not fit. I could be wrong here.
Jess wrote: "Jamaica was a colony of Britain at the time Seacole was writing, no? She's listed as "British-Jamaican, as was India where Kipling was originally from. The sun never set on the Brits at one point, ..."
Yes, I think you may be right about Henry James, but I have only read Daisy Miller, Turn if the Screw, some other short stories. So far, I don't like him. Have you read his other stuff? Are his longer books any good? I read David Lodge's fictionalised biography of him. I want to like him.
I have not read any of Edith Wharton's books, but she's early 1900's isn't she?
Yes, I think you may be right about Henry James, but I have only read Daisy Miller, Turn if the Screw, some other short stories. So far, I don't like him. Have you read his other stuff? Are his longer books any good? I read David Lodge's fictionalised biography of him. I want to like him.
I have not read any of Edith Wharton's books, but she's early 1900's isn't she?

I would love to hear what you think.
Edith Wharton is incredible. She can do no wrong in my opinion. She is my all time favorite. I could go on as to why but you shouldn’t read me. Read her!

I'd second Edith Wharton as an interesting writer, she's fascinating on women, class etc But I last read her a while ago. She's been blasted recently for her anti-Semitic views, something that surfaces in a lot of novels from that time, but which a number of critics say were unusually extreme even for her time/context, and that's making me hesitant about re-reading - read her novels at school. Although I get the impression her prejudice was more marked in her personal writing/life than in her fiction, although seems the 'House of Mirth' is fairly problematic...But I plan to try her ghost stories at some point...
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2012/03...

Kevin wrote: "Amelia wrote: "I know I can make my own rules here, but officially speaking it must be an author from the British Empire of the Victorian era, is that right?"
That's the way I understand it. I thi..."
So, usually 'Victorian', whether literature or something else, is defined as British or Irish 1837-1901, which is the definition I tend to use for Victober, but I think what you interpret 'British' as can be fairly loose. Writers like Mary Seacole, Joseph Conrad, Henry James, Rudyard Kipling, etc who were born elsewhere but spent a lot of their life in Britain or who had a British parent etc, are often counted as Victorian.
That's the way I understand it. I thi..."
So, usually 'Victorian', whether literature or something else, is defined as British or Irish 1837-1901, which is the definition I tend to use for Victober, but I think what you interpret 'British' as can be fairly loose. Writers like Mary Seacole, Joseph Conrad, Henry James, Rudyard Kipling, etc who were born elsewhere but spent a lot of their life in Britain or who had a British parent etc, are often counted as Victorian.
Books mentioned in this topic
The Valley of Fear (other topics)Somebody's Luggage (ANNOTATED) Original and Unabridged Content [Golden Classic Press] (other topics)
David Copperfield (other topics)
Our Mutual Friend (other topics)
Commonplace, and Other Short Stories (other topics)
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What are you planning on reading for this challenge?