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message 1: by Bev (last edited Jan 08, 2021 06:21PM) (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Challenge Levels:

Mt. Wycheproof: 6 books from your TBR pile/s (for those who would like to just get a taste of climbing OR who only accumulate small stashes of books)

Pike's Peak: Read 12 books from your TBR pile/s
Mount Blanc: Read 24 books from your TBR pile/s
Mt. Vancounver: Read 36 books from your TBR pile/s
Mt. Ararat: Read 48 books from your TBR pile/s
Mt. Kilimanjaro: Read 60 books from your TBR pile/s
El Toro*: Read 75 books from your TBR pile/s (*aka Cerro El Toro in South America)
Mt. Everest: Read 100 books from your TBR pile/s
Mount Olympus (Mars): Read 150+ books from your TBR pile/s

The Rules:
*To choose a level, open a topic under one of the challenge level folders and name your climb. If you decide to climb higher, just open a new topic in the new level's folder.

*Once you choose your challenge level, you are locked in for at least that many books. You are welcome to voyage further and conquer taller mountains after your commitment is met. All books from lower mountains carry over towards the next peak.

*Challenge runs from January 1 to December 31, 2021

*You may sign up at any time--no matter when you see this challenge. All qualifying books read after January 1st count.

*Books must be owned by you prior to January 1, 2021--items requested or ordered prior to January 1, may count even if they arrive in the new year. No library books~. If you're looking for a library book challenge or one that counts books on your non-owned TBR list, then please see Mount TBR's sister challenge: the Virtual Mount TBR Challenge
~The ONLY exception to the library rule: If you own the book in any form and have a reason to check out a version from the library instead, then you may count it. For example--if you own a hard copy, but are planning on taking a trip where listening to the audio version would be a great way to knock out a book while you drive, then by all means check out the audio version and have a wonderful trip! Please check with me if you have questions.

*Rules for Rereads: Any reread may count, regardless of how long you've owned it, provided you have not counted it for a previous Mount TBR Challenge.
*There is no minimum page number for books read. If it was sold individually as a book, then it counts. Children's books (if owned by you, count. ARCs also count.

*Audiobooks and E-books may count provided they are yours prior to January 1.

*You may count any "currently reading" book that you begin prior to January 1--provided you had 50% or more of the book left to finish when January 1 rolled around. I will trust you all on that. The only exception is if you have participated in Mount TBR in 2020 and were unable to finish the book in time for the final Check-in Post. Then--if you finish the book post-January 1, you may count it as your first step of the new challenge.

*You may count "Did Not Finish" books provided they meet your own standard for such things, you do not plan to ever finish it, and you move it off your mountain [give it away, sell it, remove from e-resources, etc.]. For example, my personal rule (unless it's a very short book) is to give it 100 pages. If I decide I just can't finish it and won't ever, then off the mountain it goes and I count it as a victory--the stack is smaller!

*Books may be used to count for other challenges as well.

*Feel free to submit your list in advance or to tally them as you climb.

***Addendum: Anthologies which contain more than one full-length book may count for the number of books included in the edition--provided that you read all books included AND that the books were published individually at some point. For instance, I own a large number of 3-in-1 Detective club editions. Those editions would count as three separate entries on Mount TBR. Occasionally, publishers put together editions of "previously unpublished works." Those editions would only count as one entry if those works have not been published separately at any time.


message 2: by Jessica (new)

Jessica (zumbajess) | 9 comments I have a question about re-reads/TBR is in general. Do your TBRs have to be on your Goodreads TBR shelf prior to January 1, in order for them to count? Basically, do you have to have a TBR shelf in Goodreads?
One of the reasons I was wondering this was-I have two books that I need to re-read in order to read the third book in the trilogy and I didn’t know if I had to add my rereads to my TBR shelf (if that makes sense): I read Angela‘s Ashes a long time ago and I recently read Tis, but Teacher Man is on my TBR shelf. I was going to re-read the first two so that the third one made sense (too much time has gone by in between reading these).


message 3: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Jessica wrote: "I have a question about re-reads/TBR is in general. Do your TBRs have to be on your Goodreads TBR shelf prior to January 1, in order for them to count? Basically, do you have to have a TBR shelf in..."

Jessica: It doesn't matter if you have your books marked as TBR on Goodreads--and that is true of any book whether it's a reread or not. All I ask is that the books read for the 2021 Mount TBR have been owned (or pre-ordered) by participants prior to January 1, 2021.


message 4: by Jessica (new)

Jessica (zumbajess) | 9 comments Awesome! Thanks for the clarification!


message 5: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Prockish Do I need to submit my book list before the beginning of the year? In order to keep track, do I just put the review in my topic spot?


message 6: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Heidi wrote: "Do I need to submit my book list before the beginning of the year? In order to keep track, do I just put the review in my topic spot?"

Heidi: You don't have to submit a list. Some people like to have added incentive to read certain books off their TBR piles, so they make a list that they personally want to hold themselves to. You're welcome to just list the books as you read them. And yes, you can post your reviews under your topic to keep track of the steps on your climb.


message 7: by Leslie (new)

Leslie Heidi wrote: "Do I need to submit my book list before the beginning of the year? In order to keep track, do I just put the review in my topic spot?"

Just to add my 2 cents worth to Bev's response - while you can put your review in your thread, you don't have to. Some people post reviews, others link to their review here or elsewhere and still others (such as myself) just give a rating without a review. It is up to you how you want to do it.


message 8: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Leslie wrote: "Heidi wrote: "Do I need to submit my book list before the beginning of the year? In order to keep track, do I just put the review in my topic spot?"

Just to add my 2 cents worth to Bev's response ...Just to add my 2 cents worth to Bev's response - while you can put your review in your thread, you don't have to. Some people post reviews, others link to their review here or elsewhere and still others (such as myself) just give a rating without a review. It is up to you how you want to do it."


Yes--indeed. Reviews are not required. You can definitely track your reading any way that suits you.


message 9: by Anusha (new)

Anusha Narasimhan (anushanarasimhan) Hi, I have a question. Do comics/graphic novels count for this challenge?


message 10: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Anusha wrote: "Hi, I have a question. Do comics/graphic novels count for this challenge?"

Yes, indeed!


message 11: by superawesomekt (new)

superawesomekt | 238 comments Bev, what about books that belong to others in your household? One example: My husband was gifted a book that I am interested in reading. Another: we have a shared ebook and audiobook library.


message 12: by Natália (new)

Natália Lopes (silkcaramel) | 61 comments superawesomekt wrote: "Bev, what about books that belong to others in your household? One example: My husband was gifted a book that I am interested in reading. Another: we have a shared ebook and audiobook library."If I'm not mistaken, the shared ebook/audiobook library can count towards Mt TBR, but your husband's books would count as a 'borrowed' books, so it can count towards Virtual Mt BR, but not this one.


message 13: by KeenReader (last edited Jan 03, 2021 06:36AM) (new)

KeenReader Sorry I accidentally posted my introduction here, so I've moved it to the correct thread.


message 14: by Sheila (last edited Jan 01, 2021 08:20AM) (new)

Sheila Howes Hi - just a clarification. I have a bind up of 5 books in one (The Complete Father Brown stories). I'm assuming it counts as 5 books?


message 15: by Jora (new)

Jora I also would like to know the answer to Sheila's question, as I was wondering the same thing, as I have a book with two books inside it.


message 16: by Bev (last edited Jan 02, 2021 09:11AM) (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
superawesomekt wrote: "Bev, what about books that belong to others in your household? One example: My husband was gifted a book that I am interested in reading. Another: we have a shared ebook and audiobook library."

Sorry I'm getting back to these late (the last half of December was a whirlwind!) I will leave this up to you--and anyone else--if you really ascribe to the idea that once you were married then you share all things ("What's yours is mine and what's mine is yours"), then I'd say, yes, you can count it as owned. Personally, I wouldn't count any of my husband's books as mine or my books as his. We share a lot of things--our cars are definitely "ours" since we're both on the title, for instance. But we definitely don't share our books--I imagine he'd have a huge auction selling off all my vintage mysteries if I leave this world before him. :-)

And--if you use a book from any family member other than a spouse/partner, then it definitely cannot count as owned.


message 17: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Sheila wrote: "Hi - just a clarification. I have a bind up of 5 books in one (The Complete Father Brown stories). I'm assuming it counts as 5 books?"

Sheila & Jora: Yes--anthologies with more than one book may count for the number of books contained (in this instance five)...provided that you read all five and that all five have been published individually. Sometimes publishers have put together anthologies of previously unpublished works--those would not count separately since they could not have been read separately. Does that make sens?


message 18: by Sheila (new)

Sheila Howes Bev wrote: "Sheila & Jora: Yes--anthologies with more than one book may count for the number of books contained (in this instance five)...provided that you read all five and that all five have been published individually. Sometimes publishers have put together anthologies of previously unpublished works--those would not count separately since they could not have been read separately. Does that make sense?"

Yes - thanks Bev.


message 19: by Jora (new)

Jora Yes, that makes sense. Thank you!


message 20: by Amber (new)

Amber | 13 comments Question about where to start - do I start on the bottom level, read and post my 6 books, then go to the next level up and do the same using the same challenge name? Or do I start on the level I plan to attain at the end and just list all the books I read under that?


message 21: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Amber wrote: "Question about where to start - do I start on the bottom level, read and post my 6 books, then go to the next level up and do the same using the same challenge name? Or do I start on the level I pl..."

Amber that's up you. I like to put myself at the level I'm aiming for to try and keep myself on pace to finish. Others like to start small and build. Whatever works best for you!


message 22: by Kelly (new)

Kelly (bookwormonwheelz) | 32 comments Bev, this is my first time joining this challenge. How do I know if everyone is seeing my posts about my progress? I've posted an intro and that I've finished my first book so far, but there have been no comments. Am I doing this right?


message 23: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Kelly wrote: "Bev, this is my first time joining this challenge. How do I know if everyone is seeing my posts about my progress? I've posted an intro and that I've finished my first book so far, but there have b..."

Kelly: I'll go look for you--I try to comment on everyone at least once, but haven't made it to all posts yet. In case I can't find you immediately, what mountain are you on?


message 24: by Kelly (new)

Kelly (bookwormonwheelz) | 32 comments Mount Blanc is my mountain of choice.☺


message 25: by Jadetyger (new)

Jadetyger Sevea Question: What about books borrowed from the library, etc? Is there a Virtual Mount TBR this year?

Thanks!


Liander (The Towering Pile) Lavoie (liannelavoie) | 48 comments Jadetyger wrote: "Question: What about books borrowed from the library, etc? Is there a Virtual Mount TBR this year?

Thanks!"


Yep, there's a Virtual Mount TBR 2021.


message 27: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Lianne (The Towering Pile) wrote: "Jadetyger wrote: "Question: What about books borrowed from the library, etc? Is there a Virtual Mount TBR this year?

Thanks!"

Yep, there's a Virtual Mount TBR 2021."


Thanks for directing traffic, Lianne!


Liander (The Towering Pile) Lavoie (liannelavoie) | 48 comments Bev wrote: "Thanks for directing traffic, Lianne!

Any time, lol! I probably spend too much time reading Goodreads group comments when I should be reading. :D


message 29: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (dgrachel) | 43 comments I have a quick question on rereads: I have a trilogy that I read 6 years ago. It was not counted in any previous Mount TBR challenges, but it was not something I had originally intended to reread this year (most of my rereads are planned in advance). Is it okay to count it?


message 30: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Rachel wrote: "I have a quick question on rereads: I have a trilogy that I read 6 years ago. It was not counted in any previous Mount TBR challenges, but it was not something I had originally intended to reread t..."

Rachel--absolutely. It's not necessary to have planned any of your reading (other than for your own personal reasons). As long as they're yours and you haven't counted them before, they can count.


message 31: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (dgrachel) | 43 comments Bev wrote: "Rachel wrote: "I have a quick question on rereads: I have a trilogy that I read 6 years ago. It was not counted in any previous Mount TBR challenges, but it was not something I had originally inten..."

Beautiful, thank you!!!


message 32: by Renee (new)

Renee (reneezrichter) | 14 comments Does anyone know a sticker maker or someone on Etsy that makes little mountain stickers you can write numbers inside. I want something bright and colorful to put on the pages for the books on my mountain.


message 33: by Elyse (new)

Elyse (winesaboutbooks) Renee wrote: "Does anyone know a sticker maker or someone on Etsy that makes little mountain stickers you can write numbers inside. I want something bright and colorful to put on the pages for the books on my mo..."

I don't know of any but that sound like such a cute idea! I would search for mountain stickers.


message 34: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Renee wrote: "Does anyone know a sticker maker or someone on Etsy that makes little mountain stickers you can write numbers inside. I want something bright and colorful to put on the pages for the books on my mo..."

Definitely a neat idea! I hadn't even thought of that. :-)


message 35: by Renee (new)

Renee (reneezrichter) | 14 comments Elyse wrote: "I don't know of any but that sound like such a cute idea! I would search for mountain stickers."

Bev wrote: "Definitely a neat idea! I hadn't even thought of that. :-)"

I ended up making my own! https://imgur.com/a/kiELzcl

If anyone else wants them I would be happy to send some in an envelope to you (as long as you cover the stamp and print cost).


message 36: by Elyse (new)

Elyse (winesaboutbooks) So just a random question. Now that Audible has free Audible Originals for members, would that classify as "buying" or "borrowing," do you think? Anything I chose prior to full access to the Audible Plus Catalog I'm counting as "bought" but for new onws...I'm not sure how I want to count them. It's not a big deal obviously but we readers like to be organized. lol


message 37: by Pamela (new)

Pamela | 92 comments Elyse wrote: "So just a random question. Now that Audible has free Audible Originals for members, would that classify as "buying" or "borrowing," do you think? Anything I chose prior to full access to the Audibl..."

For me I would count them as "borrowing". I had some Audible Plus titles in "My Library" but recently cancelled Audible. Now all of those titles are no longer available to me. Also, some titles in Audible Plus are removed and no longer available to listen for free (without using a credit). It's a rotating catalog. You can't rely on a specific title always being available in the Plus catalog.


message 38: by Elyse (new)

Elyse (winesaboutbooks) Pamela wrote: "Elyse wrote: "So just a random question. Now that Audible has free Audible Originals for members, would that classify as "buying" or "borrowing," do you think? Anything I chose prior to full access..."

You know, I was leaning towards counting them as "borrowing" and adding them to the Virtual Mount TBR challenge.

"Also, some titles in Audible Plus are removed and no longer available to listen for free (without using a credit). It's a rotating catalog. You can't rely on a specific title always being available in the Plus catalog."

But if you've downloaded it, even if they remove it from the catalog, you still have the download? Or is it removed completely from accounts?


message 39: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Elyse wrote: "So just a random question. Now that Audible has free Audible Originals for members, would that classify as "buying" or "borrowing," do you think? Anything I chose prior to full access to the Audibl..."

If your access is limited so it can't become a part of your permanent library, then Audible would count as borrowing (and would be eligible for the Virtual Mount TBR). If once you download it, it could (if you wanted) stay on your device forever, then it could count here as part of Mount TBR--provided you downloaded it before January 1 of this year.


message 40: by Pamela (new)

Pamela | 92 comments Elyse wrote: "But if you've downloaded it, even if they remove it from the catalog, you still have the download? Or is it removed completely from accounts?"

I didn't download any of the titles, so I can't say about that part. I didn't even check to see if I could download. I suspect even if it is downloaded and you cancel your account they will remove the book.

Possibly for those that just get removed from the Plus list, you will lose them, unless you turn off the Audible app's access to wifi or internet so that the app can't talk to the company.... so maybe?


message 41: by Elyse (new)

Elyse (winesaboutbooks) I guess I need to find out if once downloaded, they're "mine." If they are, none of these will apply to this year's Mount TBR but could apply to next year's. Must do some research! lol. Thanks for your input, Pamela and Bev!


message 42: by Elyse (new)

Elyse (winesaboutbooks) I realized I should just treat them like Kindle Unlimited, which is borrow. Dur. lol.


message 43: by Reed (new)

Reed (reedster6) | 2 comments Can i give this a try pleaae?


message 44: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Reed wrote: "Can i give this a try pleaae?"

You're welcome to join in and see how far you can get in the remainder of the year. There will be another round in 2022 (look under "Looking Ahead to 2022" for the link).


message 45: by Jessica (new)

Jessica (zumbajess) | 9 comments I have a question - if you have audiobooks that are in your audible library prior to January 1, 2021 and you haven’t listened to it yet, do those count towards Mount TBR?


message 46: by Bev (new)

Bev | 611 comments Mod
Jessica wrote: "I have a question - if you have audiobooks that are in your audible library prior to January 1, 2021 and you haven’t listened to it yet, do those count towards Mount TBR?"

I don't use audible and don't know a whole lot about it. But, as mentioned above: If your access is limited so it can't become a part of your permanent library, then Audible would count as borrowing (and would be eligible for the Virtual Mount TBR). If once you download it, it could (if you wanted) stay on your device forever, then it could count here as part of Mount TBR--provided you downloaded it before January 1 of this year.


message 47: by Elyse (last edited Dec 13, 2021 03:48AM) (new)

Elyse (winesaboutbooks) Jessica wrote: "I have a question - if you have audiobooks that are in your audible library prior to January 1, 2021 and you haven’t listened to it yet, do those count towards Mount TBR?"

I was trying to figure out how to classify the Plus catalog a couple months ago. So once you download it, even if it comes off the Plus catalog the next month, it's yours to keep, they don't take it back, it's a part of your library until/unless you remove the download. I was doing it as "borrowed" this year but next year I'm going to do it as "owned" and include the ones I've downloaded this year towards Mount TBR 2022.

EDIT: I will still be keeping Kindle Unlimited as "borrowed" if only because they cap you at so many borrows (upped to 20 now!) and you HAVE to return them in order to get more. Audible Plus has no cap, I've downloaded like 30 in a month.


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