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If your interested I listed finished reading “I am Eve” by Nicolina Martin, it’s a post apocalyptic story but written quite well. Also Minerva Vesta has two part series called a “Warriors promise” historical/fantasy.


I totally agree that there is a ton load of utter crap out there, but there always has been for as long as it is so easy to press 'publish' on any of the sites that are maximised for it, there always will be. Overall I've had an excellent reading year (and yes, I have also read some trash too) which includes plenty of good/very good/excellent IR books so let me share the love (excuse the pun!) from this year alone. Granted they are not all 2020 releases, but new ones are not all there is to choose from.
These are all minimum 3 star reads for me which means that I enjoyed them and the quality was not a problem unless specified otherwise. There is a wide range of different types of story, from light and fun, to laugh out loud funny, to angsty, to hard-hitting topics. They are all black authors too unless otherwise specified, because some white authors prove that with very little effort it is possible to write black women characters just as well as white ones. I'm going to split the post into sub-genres because it would be too long otherwise as I have so many to share.
I've also included both indie and trad pubbed books/authors and some of them do both.

Historical Romance

Sci-Fi Romance


Romantic Suspense







Paranormal Romance/Urban Fantasy (some have more romance than others)




One of the many reasons that I love her is that she writes POC's (men and women) and black women specifically as people not as 'xx people' as I said here. I've read all of her shifter books, the last ones are much better than the first ones again because of the sex content and also because the later ones are just better quality in terms of the writing (but they are all utterly hilarious) but they do need to read in order unless you don't mind being lost with half of the many characters that pop up in each book, and the further along you are the more confusing it will get. There are a few BWWM and a few AWWM and some of those pairings include biracial characters including one of the MMCs too.





Contemporary Romance

















Welcome, there's a lot of choice! Which Alyssa Cole one did you read?

You really should try The AI That Loved Me then, and if you are a fan of audio (I'm not) try that as it is supposed to be awesome.
What was your favourite of all the ones of hers you've read so far?

I do find it amazing how poor a grasp of English so many purveyors of IR have, to the extent that some sentences are virtually incomprehensible. I do make allowances for a misused word or two especially if it is an engaging plot. But when errors rise to correction of near every sentence, then I bail as this destroys the enjoyment of the story.
When I find a good one, I celebrate and reread it from time to time.

Like I said previously I’ve read books I didn’t like and that’s fine. That’s my prerogative as a reader however they were not awful and riddled with mistakes and weak plots. It seems a poorly written book these days easily gets 5 star reviews.
I’m questioning the basis of my initial issue now. Maybe it’s not just the books that have gotten worse but the fact that a broader audience accepts subpar material. Maybe it’s just more upsetting that so many authors are feeding us trash and telling us it’s caviar and we’re eating it up. There used to be so many good books in this genre I couldn’t read them fast enough. Now it’s takes weeks to find something to sink my teeth into. I do reread good books from time to time but I’m just itching for something new.
Lanie, you are not alone. Last night I thought about creating a thread along the line of your post. I am finding it hard to find a good interracial book. I do not care to read about a millionaire or billionaire story. I do not read erotic books or even stories that hint about sex.
I am not hard on grammar. I want a story. A lot of famous writers has errors in their stories. I have errors in my stories. Everyone doesn't talk the same and as long as I can understand them I am ok.
I am a writer and I am glad that I write stories that I like. I wished that Anne Stuart would write more interracial stories. I wished that Julie Garwood would write interracial stories. I love dangerous bad boy stories.
I am not hard on grammar. I want a story. A lot of famous writers has errors in their stories. I have errors in my stories. Everyone doesn't talk the same and as long as I can understand them I am ok.
I am a writer and I am glad that I write stories that I like. I wished that Anne Stuart would write more interracial stories. I wished that Julie Garwood would write interracial stories. I love dangerous bad boy stories.

Also I feel like I should clarify. When I refer to bad grammar I don’t meant typos or the kinds of colloquial liberties that people take when writing dialogue. I mean descriptions composed of awkward sentence structure, synonyms that aren’t actually synonyms, confusing first and third person in the same breath, incoherent inner dialogue and mixing up the use of there, their or they’re for example. When a story is capitulating and has typos the can be overlooked without distracting from the plot but when it reads like a bad middle school book report I cannot focus on anything else because I’m trying to unravel intent. I get that no writer is perfect but a basic grasp of the language a person is writing in is imperative to keeping a readers attention.
I should also add that we live in the age of autocorrect and spell check and sometimes that affects how we write as well.

I loved "Agnes Moor's Wild Knight" and I hated "Alpha" (which had several editing and plot issues). Of course, all reviews are subjective. :)

AGREED!!! I love to support our Black authors, but I won't give them a free pass when they write crap. Rushing through a story riddled with typos, grammatical issues, and plot holes for a quick buck is a big HELL NO from me. Add to that the tired-ass billionaire/secret baby/evil ex-Black boyfriend tropes, and I'm done.
Lanie wrote: "I’ve never heard of Anne Stuart. What kinds of books does she write and which would you recommend?
Also I feel like I should clarify. When I refer to bad grammar I don’t meant typos or the kinds ..."
Anne Stuart has historical romance books and contemporary romance books. I like her Ice Series. I love books about dangerous bad boys. My favorite dangerous bad boy Ice hero is Kilian, followed by Reno. Kilian is white and his heroine is white. Reno is Asian and his heroine is white.
Anne's interracial couple are AMWW. I wish she would write one about a BWWM.
Also I feel like I should clarify. When I refer to bad grammar I don’t meant typos or the kinds ..."
Anne Stuart has historical romance books and contemporary romance books. I like her Ice Series. I love books about dangerous bad boys. My favorite dangerous bad boy Ice hero is Kilian, followed by Reno. Kilian is white and his heroine is white. Reno is Asian and his heroine is white.
Anne's interracial couple are AMWW. I wish she would write one about a BWWM.

You nailed it perfectly when you stated "a broader audience accepts subpar material."
If you were to read some of the 5* reviews, you will notice they are as badly written as the books they are praising. No wonder then they find such books great.

Also I feel like I should clarify. When I refer to bad grammar I don’t meant typos or the kinds ..."
We get you. One of my favorite series is not perfectly written as there are a few misused words. I overlook these because the books are entertaining; sexy without being raunchy; full of chemistry and hilarity between all the characters.
I reread the series at least twice per year.
Like you, the issue becomes when I have to correct every sentence or when the sentences simply do not make any sense or when their and there are misused throughout the book or when the choice of tenses are blatantly incorrect.
I suspect many writers write just as they speak and if you listen to many people carefully as they speak, you will soon realize that many do not have a grasp of the correct use of the English language.



Preach, Lanie. Preach! Amen! Let the church say amen!!!

I loved "Agnes Moor's Wild Knight" and I hated "Alpha" (which had several editing and plot issues). Of course, all reviews are subjective. :)"
Ah, ok. I don't recall the details of Alpha that much, but I found the story and concept interesting enough. I never did review it though which makes me think that it wasn't too bad for me.

But I am very drawn to unconventional (for romance) plots that many readers (of IR and not) would never even consider and more realistic type characters and situations so that explains some of what I listed above. For that reason I can accept minor issues with the writing quality as the vast majority of people writing those types of stories are indie authors (and not always self pubbed - sometimes small presses are not very good with editing either) and even more than that, they are much less likely to be any of the bigger and well established professional indie authors who are actually making a living from their work. But like everyone, I do of course have limits, and unfortunately, much like you all I've read far too many that breach those limits.
In terms of the IR books that I find subpar, I tend not to mention them at all for the most part. Not because I want to support them, but because I don't want to further prop up that type of work or as there are many people who will read a book just to trash it, especially romances, I don't want to lead people to bad books JUST to do that. Only the very worse of the worse, or those that I find the content to be offensive (again, all types not just IR) will I actively mention and even then only in certain circles because I don't want to feed into the long held 'mainstream' belief that black folks can't write good romance books. Clearly many can't - that is a given - but many published authors of all races can't and are too lazy (or sometimes is it just not having enough resouces?) to do the work properly and actually even just learn the basics of the craft before publishing.
Of those 32 books I listed, and bear in mind these are not reviews just a quick overview of what they are about, I'm curious to know if any of them are of interest to anyone in this thread, or if you have thoughts about any that you may have already read.
Forgive me if a couple of 'subpar' ones crept in, any that did were not so bad as to ruin my personal exerience of an otherwise interesting or even enjoyable story or I just don't recall those details of them.


Regards your list of book here are the impressions of the ones I read:
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and realized she just isn't the author for me. Too much trauma drama and some really ratchet components.
The two Freya Barker books I have not read, but I downloaded them to read! I've only read her Portland, ME series (The third book

I actually liked Rebekeah Weatherspoons' first book in her BDSM series much better

Shelly Laurenston/G.A. Aiken is a queen! She isn't for everyone because she is so over the top. But I adore how unabashedly multi-cultural she populates all her worlds. I often recommend her novella ""The Wolf, The Witch, and Her Lack of Wardrobe" (ir BWWM) that is in the

The


I loved

I've read most of Tracey Livesay's work. Most recently I read



The clamor for IR books, especially BWWM, has vastly increased in my opinion. Since the demand is so high, some “authors” have decided to capitalize on this phenomenon, and I suspect it’s done largely for monetary gain. As a result, we get unmitigated substandard drivel. And, we buy it, the “author” gets paid, and we are left feeling cheated and shortchanged. I, for one, have begun to fight back in several ways: 1) by sending those books back to Amazon for a refund, even if it’s past the time limit; 2) by reporting poorly written KU books and other books for which I can’t get refunds; 3) by refusing to buy or read books with titles such as “The White Alpha Millionaire’s Black Baby Mama’s Secret Quintuplets (Black Baby Mama Series, Book 1).”
I agree wholeheartedly with Justine, Monique and Lanie concerning these books where grammatical errors and other more egregious butchering of basic rules of grammar, punctuation, and incorrectly used homophones abound. Further, the IR books where sexual content overtakes meager plot lines, stories that have no discernible plot and glaring inconsistencies, etc., all serve to diminish the book. I read for my enjoyment, not for any other reason. I do point out these things in my reviews of IR books as well other fiction in any genre. Some of my reviews can be harsh, but so be it. There are too many books that are given 5 stars that should never have seen the light of day! Readers deserve a fully justified negative review for these atrocious offerings. That way, potential readers can make a more informed decision whether they will take a chance and give it a go or whether they will skip it.
This subject that Lanie raises has me thinking that we should reprise the threads asking for 5 – 3.0 star IR reads in 2020, and those 2020 IR books we feel missed the mark-rated 2.5 stars or lower (including books read in 2020, but were published In prior years).

I completely agree that there should be a thread not only sharing good books but also consistently good authors. That old adage you can’t judge a book by its cover is almost no longer true. If it features the same rotation of a guy in a suit photoshopped next to an awkward pregnant random woman with somebody’s else’s smiling kids copied and pasted, trust me it can be judged alright.
A lot of people on here know that I buy books dirt cheap. I like paperbacks and the highest I've ever paid for a paperback is 50 cents. I've been buying paperback books from my library since 1998 and they started selling them 10 for $1.00, then 25 cents and now 50 cents with the larger ones being $1.00. I don't buy the large one unless they are having the big book sale they have once a year and the books are half price. I would buy books from thrift stores too, one place sell paperbacks 3/$1.00 and one went up to 50 cents a book. I don't believe in paying regular price for a book, because I don't believe in wasting money and that's why I am glad that the library have books that you can borrow. I rather test a book out, then pay the regular price. It's a possiblity that I will not like the book, no matterr how much the back cover and/or prologue has caught my attentin.
I have been trying to get into ebooks, but a lot of them don't hold my attention, no matter the genre. I just don't read interracial books and I am having a hard time finding good interracial books.
I haven't written a review in a while. I will one day, as soon as I find a book that's worth my time writing a review about. When I write a review, I write how I feel about a book. I don't write a review to convince people to read the book or make them not want to read a book. I don't let other people's reviews move me. The person is writing how they felt about a book. They probably hated the book and it might be a book on the topic that I like reading and I might read the book and like it.
I have been trying to get into ebooks, but a lot of them don't hold my attention, no matter the genre. I just don't read interracial books and I am having a hard time finding good interracial books.
I haven't written a review in a while. I will one day, as soon as I find a book that's worth my time writing a review about. When I write a review, I write how I feel about a book. I don't write a review to convince people to read the book or make them not want to read a book. I don't let other people's reviews move me. The person is writing how they felt about a book. They probably hated the book and it might be a book on the topic that I like reading and I might read the book and like it.

Yes Lanie, I know what you're talking about books that resonates with you. I am huge Sam and Alyssa fan from Suzanne Brockmann's books. They are my number 1 interracial couple and till this day, I wonder what they are up to.


After they get together they pop up as a happy alpha couple in later books and quite a few of the little novellas. They have a lot of face time in All Through the Night and make a front-and-center role again much later in the series in Hot Pursuit which.
I agree with Arch they are an awesome couple. Sam is in the top five of my book boyfriends.

Lanie wrote: "Ok so 19 books in that series is a huge commitment. But then again I’ll probably be sitting in my house trying not to get sick until about March so they will keep me from getting bored."
Laine, you don't have to read the series. Gone Too Far is Sam and Alyssa's HEA book and it was the first book that I've read. When I bought the book from the library, I didn't know it was part of a series. I've never heard of Suzanne Brockmann and to be honest, the book didn't catch my attention at first, well it wasn't holding my attention. I had things going on and I've picked it up to read and only read a few pages and put the book away. It wasn't until a week or two later that I've read something online about Gone Too Far being a story about a BWWM and that made me rush back to the book and I'm glad that I did. After reading it, I went to the library to pick up the next book - Flashpoint, thinking they were going to be in it, which they were only mentioned in it. Little to say, I was disappointed, until I've found out about them being in previous books, so I've gotten the previous books from the library and later found them at book sales. I love their short stories too. Yes, Sam and Alyssa is Suzanne Brockmann number one couple and she has written short stories about them too.
Laine, you don't have to read the series. Gone Too Far is Sam and Alyssa's HEA book and it was the first book that I've read. When I bought the book from the library, I didn't know it was part of a series. I've never heard of Suzanne Brockmann and to be honest, the book didn't catch my attention at first, well it wasn't holding my attention. I had things going on and I've picked it up to read and only read a few pages and put the book away. It wasn't until a week or two later that I've read something online about Gone Too Far being a story about a BWWM and that made me rush back to the book and I'm glad that I did. After reading it, I went to the library to pick up the next book - Flashpoint, thinking they were going to be in it, which they were only mentioned in it. Little to say, I was disappointed, until I've found out about them being in previous books, so I've gotten the previous books from the library and later found them at book sales. I love their short stories too. Yes, Sam and Alyssa is Suzanne Brockmann number one couple and she has written short stories about them too.

Lanie wrote: "Whew ok good to know. I’ll start with that one and go from there. I may want to read them all who knows? Thanks!"
You might want to read them all, to see how Alyssa and Sam met. They couldn't stand one another. I think it would be safe to say the theme for them was enemies to lovers. In my eyes, it was love at first sight for them, but you couldn't tell that, because their enemies status. Sam was the boy in school that liked to pull the girl he liked hair to make her mad.
You might want to read them all, to see how Alyssa and Sam met. They couldn't stand one another. I think it would be safe to say the theme for them was enemies to lovers. In my eyes, it was love at first sight for them, but you couldn't tell that, because their enemies status. Sam was the boy in school that liked to pull the girl he liked hair to make her mad.

But if you want a shortcut... I'd say start with the second book The Defiant Hero in the series if you are reading for Sam and Alyssa. The first book they meet each other but don't interact that much. The second book is when they really take off. The third book Over the Edge is my hands down favorite of the series and has huge developments in their relationship. Then if you want you can skip to their book. And then skip forward to Hot Pursuit. And then you can track down the little novellas. I think there is one book where they are all compiled in one book.

I’ve already completed my reading challenge but I’m about 80 books behind what I read last year. Half of it was working from home and being busy and the other half was not having a commute to read through.

I’ve already completed my reading challenge but I’m about 80 books behind what I read last year. Half of it was working from home and being bu..."
I have noticed that I have not read as much as I did because of the lack of commuting. Usually I catch up during the holidays, but not this year as I have spent more time following the ridiculous political situation in the country.
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Over the Edge (other topics)Hot Pursuit (other topics)
The Defiant Hero (other topics)
All Through the Night (other topics)
The Unsung Hero (other topics)
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I feel like there used to be a time when authors like Tiffany Patterson, Theodora Taylor and Xavier Neal we’re putting out books that were considered the standard for engaging and engrossing books. Now people who have stories to tell but not necessarily the means to do so are pumping out ridiculous books that seem to be turning the genre into a playground of rich men and instant lust stories.
I’m not saying all bwwm books are subpar but I’ve been nothing but disappointed the last few months with the pickings. There have books I’ve read that I didn’t like but they were well thought out and edited properly. Lately they seem almost insulting to the reader. I’ve had more DNF this year than ever before.
Seriously is it just me or has anyone else noticed this? I apologize if anyone finds this offensive, I’ve just become frustrated in my search for quality bwwm and I would love to hear other people’s thoughts or opinions on the matter.