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A historical novel with fantasy elements about the establishment of the Mason-Dixon line between Maryland and Pennsylvania. I think Pynchon is a great writer, but this was too long and too busy for me.

I didn't mind the archaic language (although I found so many capital letters tended to make my eyes slide over the page) but the framing story of the Reverend Cherrycoke seemed completely pointless. It may have been intended to distance the story of Mason and Dixon (because Cherrycoke was not present for many of the events he described) but I found that unconvincing because Cherrycoke himself seemed so unreal.
I had high hopes for this book after seeing reviews, but I struggled to connect with it, and I was very disappointed. 3 stars only because of the way the relationship between Mason and Dixon deepened in the second half of the book.

What a book! I will admit, between ¼ and 1/3 of the way through I was finding Mason and Dixon’s time back in England tedious and just wanted them to get to America. Once I got to Part 2: America I enjoyed it again. Really though, I suspect any quibbles I may have with the book should be put down to reader error.
This is a work of genius. It is (obviously) minutely researched, a work of superior imagination, potentially slightly crazy and so beautifully written. It is also humorous and very poignant. In a novel of this length there are many ideas, passages, occurrences that could be discussed at length.
I will just note two things that really struck me as I was reading it. Right from the beginning (when they are in South Africa) we are introduced to their abhorrence to slavery. This is a subtle, but overarching theme in the book. Secondly, the way Pynchon developed the relationship between Mason and Dixon was very believable – at first they are thrown together and don’t really like each other, until over the course of many years they actually are friends.
By the time I got to the end, I didn’t want it to finish. I didn’t want to leave Pynchon’s writing. 4.5*
2.5 stars for me
I read part one and then switched to audiobook for the rest. I listened to narrator Steven Crossley and he was very good. I did enjoy listening to the book.
Thomas Pynchon is a post-modernist American novelist and I am beginning to think I don’t like post modernist writing. He is described as “detailed, humorous, and complex, full of clear action, dialogue and smooth prose.” Pynchon is definitely detailed as evidenced by his book being 773 pages. I did not find him humorous. I would not define his writing as “smooth prose” for me it was frustrating with all the mid-sentence capitalization. I was really looking forward to this book as I enjoy historical fiction but this style of writing just did not do it for me. I was inspired to learn more about Mason and Dixon so I did look up information about the two as I was reading. I struggled to connect with this story what so ever. This is my first Pynchon and I think it is going to be my last.
I read part one and then switched to audiobook for the rest. I listened to narrator Steven Crossley and he was very good. I did enjoy listening to the book.
Thomas Pynchon is a post-modernist American novelist and I am beginning to think I don’t like post modernist writing. He is described as “detailed, humorous, and complex, full of clear action, dialogue and smooth prose.” Pynchon is definitely detailed as evidenced by his book being 773 pages. I did not find him humorous. I would not define his writing as “smooth prose” for me it was frustrating with all the mid-sentence capitalization. I was really looking forward to this book as I enjoy historical fiction but this style of writing just did not do it for me. I was inspired to learn more about Mason and Dixon so I did look up information about the two as I was reading. I struggled to connect with this story what so ever. This is my first Pynchon and I think it is going to be my last.

I particularly enjoyed the relationship between Mason and Dixon, their fighting, their wit used against each other and others, the fact that they came to understand something about each other that eventually made them "mates".
However, one does wonder why Pynchon felt the need to include as much as he did, to assign some very tangental tales some primary real estate within the book, to not go back and edit for impact. I suspect that I missed huge amounts of the book by virtue of it going over my head, between the lines or under my feet and therefore have no right to suggest Pynchon edit his book down. However, this one reader felt it was a bit much, and yet I am, like Valerie, already missing the book.

⭐ ⭐

I loved the relationship between Mason & Dixon, their bickering and moments of friendship, and the way it encompassed all kinds of contrasts - physical, religious, social and philosophical. The language and style is not always easy to follow, at times it was bewildering, but it kept me interested to see what happened to the main characters.
This is my second Pynchon and I’m not sure I’m completely on his wavelength, but on the whole I enjoyed this and admire its originality and creativity.
Reason Read: quarterly read for Reading 1001, April/May/June. This is a book that should be read slowly, perhaps studied and maybe even in a coffee house. Mason & Dixon of course is the story of Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon who are sent to America to draw the boundary line between Pennsylvania and Maryland. Charles Mason is an English/American astronomer and the straight man, while Jeremiah Dixon, and Englishman surveyor and astronomer, as well as Quaker is the comic hero. As we learn about the two men through the story as told by rev Cherrycoke we become aware of the intimacies and the tensions. As the men aged I became more empathetic with them. Pynchon created great characters. The story is also full of word play and humor. It is written in 18th century Syntex which grounds the novel in time and place. Did I catch all the nuances, word plays, humor? No I did not. Would I recommend this book, yes but with warnings that it is not an easy read. I am fully convinced that Thomas Pyhchon is a brilliant author.
Quotes:
pg 683, "a cycle belonging to some Engine whose higher Assembly and indeed purpose they never, except from infrequent glimases, quite make out.
Pg 352, "To understand History, Ives Says, "you look at the evidence, the testimony, Teh whole truth".
Cherrycoke sees history as "a great tangled of lines, long and short, weak and strong, vanishing into the mnemonic deep."
"as above, so below." key statement repeated several times s and I think it is found in his other books (Against the Day and others?).
Theme is the Human Condition.
Quotes:
pg 683, "a cycle belonging to some Engine whose higher Assembly and indeed purpose they never, except from infrequent glimases, quite make out.
Pg 352, "To understand History, Ives Says, "you look at the evidence, the testimony, Teh whole truth".
Cherrycoke sees history as "a great tangled of lines, long and short, weak and strong, vanishing into the mnemonic deep."
"as above, so below." key statement repeated several times s and I think it is found in his other books (Against the Day and others?).
Theme is the Human Condition.

*** 1/2
Another book that I am reviewing months after I finished it...
- For starters, it's Pynchon and his quirks. Yes, there is humour which can sometimes be too subtle. In this book, I love the situations and scenes while the protagonists were in Cape Town, being preyed on by the sexually hungry Dutch women; I also loved the encounters with other historical characters in facets that I never would have imagined. Yet, a lot of that humour either fell flat or disappeared completely in the second half of the book. Sometimes it felt like one of the never-ending, perpetually long and stretched jokes you see on Family Guy.
- Another potential obstacle in this novel is the language, which was in the late 18th century style. I got used to it, but I can understand that other readers might find it a bit tedious.
- Finally, I am not convinced that wrapping the story in Rev. Cherrycoke's narrative actually adds much to the novel.
Another book that I am reviewing months after I finished it...
- For starters, it's Pynchon and his quirks. Yes, there is humour which can sometimes be too subtle. In this book, I love the situations and scenes while the protagonists were in Cape Town, being preyed on by the sexually hungry Dutch women; I also loved the encounters with other historical characters in facets that I never would have imagined. Yet, a lot of that humour either fell flat or disappeared completely in the second half of the book. Sometimes it felt like one of the never-ending, perpetually long and stretched jokes you see on Family Guy.
- Another potential obstacle in this novel is the language, which was in the late 18th century style. I got used to it, but I can understand that other readers might find it a bit tedious.
- Finally, I am not convinced that wrapping the story in Rev. Cherrycoke's narrative actually adds much to the novel.
The wide array of locations involved (colonial US and Canada, St. Helena, Europe, South Africa etc), and variety of hijinks/conflicts (romance subplots, stealing bathtubs, a Chinese cult, conflicts between settlers and indigenous people) made for an interesting read at times. But, something about the book exhausted me a little bit early on: maybe as mentioned above it’s the amount of nonsense that happens all shoved in immediately and the episodes just keep happening for over 700 pages in the same manner.
Overall, I gave this one 3 stars.