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message 2: by Lady ♥ Belleza, Gif Princesa (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3704 comments Mod
I am not making the same mistake again. Instead I will say, stay safe, stay home and stay beautiful.

Wear your mask, wash your hands (you filthy animal), cover your mouth when you sneeze, and stay at least 6 feet away from people.

That last part will save you if you run into a serial killer.

The filthy animal comment is just something I say. I don't think any of you are filthy.

Caitlin Rother has requested me to review her book. Of course, the review won't be published until after the book is so ... stay tuned!


message 3: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Daughter of the victim in a cold case seeking help:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDis...


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Hunkering down for the latest March Snowmageddon here in Colorado.


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Fishface | 18801 comments K.A. wrote: "Hunkering down for the latest March Snowmageddon here in Colorado."

Are you well supplied with books?


message 6: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments I just gave Tex Watson his own shelf. And I changed the Stephen Ward shelf to the Profumo Affair shelf because it dawned on me that every single book title related to the guy had the word "Profumo" in it.


message 7: by Ann (new)

Ann The SF Chronicle has a new podcast on a serial killer called The Doodler if you are interested.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/...


message 8: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Fishface wrote: "K.A. wrote: "Hunkering down for the latest March Snowmageddon here in Colorado."

Are you well supplied with books?"


I can always re-read from my bookshelves, and of course, as long as I have Internet I can download new ones! Plus, I submitted a dog-related haiku to a Facebook page and won a copy of Zen Unleashed: Everyday Buddhist Wisdom from Man's Best Friend which I received just in time. I just got out this morning for the first time since Friday - it's pretty grim. I have a RAV4, which is a small SUV. Anything smaller is just getting stuck, and I have to just pedal-to-the-metal to get out my road to a larger one that's been plowed. No garbage pickup until next week and no mail delivery.


message 9: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Ann wrote: "The SF Chronicle has a new podcast on a serial killer called The Doodler if you are interested.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/..."


Well of course we are!


message 10: by Francis (new)

Francis (sloane_is_dead) | 19 comments With all this down-time, I'm finally building the True Crime Book Collection I've wanted since I was in 8th Grade. Currently at around 150+ different books.

With the popularity of My Favorite Murder & various Netflix Documentaries, it seems safer to be into True Crime. When I was younger, I was bullied all the time at school because I was into True Crime, now the demographic is incredibly wide.

The popularity of it has me picking up any True Crime Book that I think is interesting at local bookstores, not only to help keep them in business during this time but also because the prices for the harder to find books are rising.

Even the mass printed books like Philip Carlo's Night Stalker at one point in time this year was sold out in all places, with the distributor struggling to get them printed and out to offline/online bookstores.


message 11: by Fishface (last edited Apr 09, 2021 11:26AM) (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Frank wrote: "When I was younger, I was bullied all the time at school because I was into True Crime, now the demographic is incredibly wide.

I wonder what your bullies were reading? And are any of them currently buried in someone's crawlspace because they didn't bone up?


message 12: by Francis (new)

Francis (sloane_is_dead) | 19 comments Fishface wrote: "Frank wrote: "When I was younger, I was bullied all the time at school because I was into True Crime, now the demographic is incredibly wide.

I wonder what your bullies were reading? And are any o..."


I'm not sure if any of my bullies in Middle/High School read any books haha


message 13: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Frank wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Frank wrote: "When I was younger, I was bullied all the time at school because I was into True Crime, now the demographic is incredibly wide.

I wonder what your bullies were readi..."


Same here LOL


message 14: by Francis (new)

Francis (sloane_is_dead) | 19 comments Then again, some of the bullies also look like the folks that read True Crime with their French Pressed Coffee on Instagram :)

Either way, the popularity of True Crime now means that local bookstores and/or used bookstores take in more product for me to gobble up during each visit.

So thank you bullies!


message 15: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Happy to report also that my nearest paperback-swappy bookstore has an increasingly large TC section. Of course because it uses the swaperoo model a lot of the books in it used to be mine, LOL.


message 16: by Lady ♥ Belleza, Gif Princesa (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3704 comments Mod
Last night waiting for the ferry this guy started talking to me. Asked if I was vaccinated blah blah blah. Couldn't really get away from him cause you know, waiting for the ferry.

He mentioned, more than once, that I "had a hot body", but had "no chance" with him, cause he was anti-vax and I had been vaccinated.

I kept thinking, "That makes no sense. If I have a hot body why would I want to get with a mouth breather like you?"


message 17: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Lady ♥ Belleza wrote: "Last night waiting for the ferry this guy started talking to me. Asked if I was vaccinated blah blah blah. Couldn't really get away from him cause you know, waiting for the ferry.

He mentioned, m..."


Well, taking a political stance of being anti-vaxx carries a whiff of "I never make sense so just ignore me."


message 18: by Ann (new)

Ann Lady ♥ Belleza wrote: "Last night waiting for the ferry this guy started talking to me. Asked if I was vaccinated blah blah blah. Couldn't really get away from him cause you know, waiting for the ferry.

He mentioned, m..."


You must have been hugely disappointed that you didn’t have a chance. What a creep!


message 19: by Lady ♥ Belleza, Gif Princesa (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3704 comments Mod
Ann wrote: "Lady ♥ Belleza wrote: "Last night waiting for the ferry this guy started talking to me. Asked if I was vaccinated blah blah blah. Couldn't really get away from him cause you know, waiting for the f..."

I was so disappointed I briefly considered throwing myself (and by myself I mean him) off the ferry. But as an environmentalist I'm opposed to polluting the waterways.


message 20: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Lady ♥ Belleza wrote: "Ann wrote: "Lady ♥ Belleza wrote: "Last night waiting for the ferry this guy started talking to me. Asked if I was vaccinated blah blah blah. Couldn't really get away from him cause you know, waiti..."

Good self-control Bel! There are 8.5 million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them...


message 21: by Fishface (last edited May 01, 2021 02:14PM) (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments I went to Carol's Paperbacks to trade in books. To my astonishment, the clerk refused them after the first 3 bags "because we're overwhelmed." She pointed into the back hall which was literally floor-to-ceiling paperbacks. I proceeded to the True Crime section to shop and found almost bare shelves. I went back to the desk and pointed this out, saying that most of the books they said they didn't want were TC. That changed her mind and she took 2 or 3 more bags of them off my hands. She commented that most people who buy their TC never swap them back in. I informed her that they seem to carry more than their share of hard-to find items that I'm not about to swap back in myself. That appeared to be news to her.

Brought home:

The Forensic Psychology of Criminal Minds
A Deadly Secret: The Bizarre and Chilling Story of Robert Durst
Echoes of my Soul
The Trial of the Catonsville Nine -- WHICH SHE GAVE ME FOR FREE!!!
Son of Sam: The .44-Caliber Killer
The Gates of Janus: Serial Killing and Its Analysis
Cosmopolitan Greetings
The Old Man and the Gun: And Other Tales of True Crime
A Case of Need
Without Pity: Ann Rule's Most Dangerous Killers


message 22: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 1597 comments Fishface wrote: "I went to Carol's Paperbacks to trade in books. To my astonishment, the clerk refused them after the first 3 bags "because we're overwhelmed." She pointed into the back hall which was literally flo..."

Lucky! I wish I had a store like that around here. I was able to go to B&N Sat. The whole store had been re-arranged but it looked like the TC section was larger than it used to be.


message 23: by Emilee (new)

Emilee Ashline (eashline92) | 3 comments Hello. My name is Emilee. I am new here lol. I just finished Ann Rule's Ted Bundy book and I am now reading Ripper by Patricia Cornwell.


message 24: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Welcome Emilee!


message 25: by Hari (new)

Hari Brandl (crochetbuddies) | 649 comments Fishface wrote: "Welcome Emilee!"

Hello, Emilee. Welcome...


message 26: by Emilee (new)

Emilee Ashline (eashline92) | 3 comments Thank you ☺️


message 27: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 1597 comments Emilee wrote: "Hello. My name is Emilee. I am new here lol. I just finished Ann Rule's Ted Bundy book and I am now reading Ripper by Patricia Cornwell."

Welcome Emilee!


message 28: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Koren wrote: "Fishface wrote: "I went to Carol's Paperbacks to trade in books. To my astonishment, the clerk refused them after the first 3 bags "because we're overwhelmed." She pointed into the back hall which ..."

Maybe you should start your own bookstore Koren!!!


message 29: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 1597 comments Fishface wrote: "Koren wrote: "Fishface wrote: "I went to Carol's Paperbacks to trade in books. To my astonishment, the clerk refused them after the first 3 bags "because we're overwhelmed." She pointed into the ba..."

People have tried from time to time. They don't seem to last long in a small rural area. Even the local library has been slow lately. I am good friends of the librarian so I stay and chat if she's not busy. Sometimes we talk for an hour or more with nobody coming in, which makes me wonder if we will continue to have a library. Several libraries in towns smaller than ours have closed.


message 30: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments I realized on the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre that we didn't have a shelf for it. When I looked I was overwhelmed by the number of books on the subject. Has anyone read some of these? Any especially good ones you can reccy?


message 31: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Started a Krystian Bala shelf after discovering the case in The Old Man and the Gun: And Other Tales of True Crime and discovering that GR also has the novel the killer wrote about his crime, Amok.


message 32: by Christine (new)

Christine Hatfield  (christinesbookshelves) | 192 comments WELCOME EMILEE!


message 33: by Fishface (last edited Jun 24, 2021 04:54AM) (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Hold up everyone. I just started reading The Forensic Psychology of Criminal Minds and the author announced on page 26 that DNA testing CLEARED Albert DeSalvo of her murder. Every news article on that test says it proved he killed her.

Now what am I supposed to believe!?


message 34: by Fishface (last edited Oct 04, 2021 04:12PM) (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments I would put this under Crime Headlines but I couldn't find one. Turned on the radio while washing dishes and NPR, which practically never gives local news of any sort, was talking about the sheriff I voted for in the last election apparently having enough friendliness and authority with the local far-right militia groups to be able to tell them to make themselves scarce at some sort of public event...and they did what they were told.

Now, I know a lot of these guys have Posse Comitatus leanings and might very well listen to directives by the sheriff because they agree he has authority over the county.

But these are the same numbskulls who tried to kidnap the governor a short time ago.

They are cut from the same cloth as those guys in Adrian who killed a police officer and planned to kill all the other officers who came to the funeral so they could get rid of the police once and for all.

I only caught part of this discussion so it might have gone off in a totally different direction than it sounded to me, but someone they were interviewing about it said, and I quote, "Not too shady!"

It really made it sound as if Sheriff Mike Murphy were in bed with these people.

Now even if they MEANT it to sound that way it might be dead wrong. Mike Murphy had a great deal to do with rounding up the chuckleheads who wanted to kidnap the governor and he might be saying to other group members, in effect, "Remember what happened last time you tried to pull something? Don't even think about it."

Or it could be that he's in bed with them. (Shudder!)


message 35: by Koren (last edited Jul 23, 2021 06:12PM) (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 1597 comments Reading We Thought We Knew You: A Terrifying True Story of Secrets, Betrayal, Deception, and Murder by M. William Phelps, I did not know that investigations are moving away from lie detector tests and doing voice stress tests instead as they are far more accurate. Very interesting book and I am learning a lot about techniques that investigators are using in the digital age.


message 36: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Koren wrote: "Reading We Thought We Knew You: A Terrifying True Story of Secrets, Betrayal, Deception, and Murder by M. William Phelps, I did not know that investigations are moving away from lie..."

After reading The Lie Detectors: The History of an American Obsession, I say it's about time.


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Koren  (koren56) | 1597 comments Reading A Good Man with a Dog: A Game Warden's 25 Years in the Maine Woods by Roger Guay (Probably could be considered under true crime as he did work on a lot of cases) and he mentioned briefly that he worked on the Amy St. Laurent case. I was pretty sure I had a book about that case. Found it and I will be starting this, hoping to read in the book about the game warden.
Finding Amy: A True Story of Murder in Maine


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Fishface | 18801 comments Koren wrote: "Reading A Good Man with a Dog: A Game Warden's 25 Years in the Maine Woods by Roger Guay (Probably could be considered under true crime as he did work on a lot of cases) and he ment..."

Sounds like a plan to me...


message 39: by Koren (last edited Jul 25, 2021 02:49PM) (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 1597 comments Fishface wrote: "Koren wrote: "Reading A Good Man with a Dog: A Game Warden's 25 Years in the Maine Woods by Roger Guay (Probably could be considered under true crime as he did work on a lot of case..."

Didn't finish this book but read as far when he mentioned Roger Guay and the cadaver dogs but it was barely a mention. After that I lost interest. The two pages Roger took to talk about finding Amy was a page and a half longer than what it was mentioned in the Finding Amy book.


message 40: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments After having an inordinately upsetting couple of weeks I drove to work today and turned on the radio to discover NPR covering the hearings about the Jan 6th riot at the Capitol. I couldn't listen without crying. It was still going as I went out to grab some lunch. Hearing Officer Hodges screaming in pain as he was crushed in that door brought it all back. Then came the Congresswoman who said she was 40 paces from Officer Hodges, listening to the fracas and astonished that she thought she'd hidden in the safest part of the bowels of the building where no rioters could find her. She said if the police hadn't done an excellent job she is sure she would have been killed.


message 41: by Koren (new)

Koren  (koren56) | 1597 comments Fishface wrote: "After having an inordinately upsetting couple of weeks I drove to work today and turned on the radio to discover NPR covering the hearings about the Jan 6th riot at the Capitol. I couldn't listen w..."

I don't remember the name of the congresswoman who said she thinks the policemen who testified are actors paid by Democrats. How damn cold and unfeeling can you be to say something like that?


message 42: by Fishface (last edited Oct 04, 2021 04:13PM) (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Koren wrote: "Fishface wrote: "I don't remember the name of the congresswoman who said she thinks the policemen who testified are actors paid by Democrats. How damn cold and unfeeling can you be to say something like that?"

I, personally, would use the word "stupid."


message 43: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Living crime scene caught on film:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgow...


message 44: by Lady ♥ Belleza, Gif Princesa (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3704 comments Mod
Emilee wrote: "Hello. My name is Emilee. I am new here lol. I just finished Ann Rule's Ted Bundy book and I am now reading Ripper by Patricia Cornwell."

Welcome Emilee!


message 45: by Fishface (last edited Oct 04, 2021 04:15PM) (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Serial killer Terry Blair and his family:



https://www.reddit.com/r/serialkiller...


message 46: by Hari (last edited Aug 15, 2021 05:26PM) (new)

Hari Brandl (crochetbuddies) | 649 comments Hi, all,
I find that people I've never seen on GoodReads have been "liking" my post (when I mark a book as "want to read", etc., it shows up on the home page) lately. But when I click on their name or avatar, only rarely is there any info about them, and the same thing when someone sends me a friend request. How can one know whether they want to be friends with someone else on no further information?
And when I send them a message asking why they want to be friends with me, no reply...
Flusterating! (One of my favorite mis-spellings/mis-pronunciations.)


message 47: by Ann (new)

Ann I have had the same thing with liking books that I mark as to read. I’ve noticed that there is always a photo of a young, attractive woman on the profile and a link to a site.


message 48: by Fishface (last edited Oct 04, 2021 04:17PM) (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Can't believe this. I looked at that "whirlwind, heat and flash" Sonic Youth poster for years where it was hanging on the wall of a friend's apt when I was an undergrad in college. Only later did I get into reading TC, but it never dawned on me until this instant when I saw it again on Pinterest that the poster image was based on the famous photo of David and Maureen Smith, the young couple who turned the Moors Murderers in to the police!

The full text of the poster was based not on the Moors case but on the Starkweather killing spree:

"I stole my sister's boyfriend. It was all whirlwind, heat and flash. Within a week we'd killed my parents and hit the road," said the poster...Wait, I'll just show you:



https://huw.substack.com/p/i-stole-my...

Here's the image that made it all clear to me:




message 49: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18801 comments Added a WHOLE BUNCH of TC titles today. I struck a fresh vein of books I didn't know about before.


message 50: by Vikkram (new)

Vikkram Dewan (vickramediwan) | 1 comments Ann wrote: "The SF Chronicle has a new podcast on a serial killer called The Doodler if you are interested.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/..."

Hi Ann,
Thanks for sharing. This looks interesting. I am currently working on a novel on a serial killer couple. So, this will be useful for me.

Cheers,

Vickram E. Diwan (India)


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