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message 1: by Christine PNW (new)

Christine PNW (moonlight_reader) | 131 comments I am ALREADY struggling to keep up with my overly ambitious reading plans for 2021, and this project keeps hitting road blocks. However, I did request this one from my library and it should show up mid-month. Hopefully by that time, I'll be able to dig in!

Published in 1936, this is a novel that centers around a fruit picker's strike in California. I'm really hoping to be able to get to it!


message 2: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15634 comments Mod
I'm in for this one!


message 3: by Tr1sha (new)

Tr1sha | 1043 comments I want to read this, but probably won’t start it until some time next week.


message 4: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15634 comments Mod
Reading this book was an intense experience. His writing is superb as always, but the story is an emotionally rough ride.


message 5: by Tr1sha (new)

Tr1sha | 1043 comments Rosemarie wrote: "Reading this book was an intense experience. His writing is superb as always, but the story is an emotionally rough ride."

I haven’t read this yet, but like your comment. I think he is good at making the reader care about the characters - unlike a different author where I finished a book today but didn’t care at all what happened to any of the characters & just wanted the book to end!


message 6: by Brian E (new)

Brian E Reynolds | -1126 comments I just started reading this today. As a labor arbitrator, I try to read classic novels about labor issues, such as Germinal. This novel is Steinbeck's 12th most read novel/novella according to Goodreads, which may explain why, though I've always known of the book because of its great title, I wasn't really aware the plot concerned a labor issue. Now I do, so I'm in on the read. It is my 8th Steinbeck, but only the second this century.
So far, so good. I was quite interested that an early character was named Harry Nilson. In checking about the singer with a similar name, there appears to be no connection. The singer is actually Harry Nillson III, so its just a family name existing from before this novel. Nilson or Nillson is the 4th most common Swedish name, something I shouldn't be surprised at after reading Selma Lagerlof's 2 adventure novels about the young boy named Nils.


message 7: by Brian E (new)

Brian E Reynolds | -1126 comments I'm about half way through this and I am enjoying it very much. This is a well developed and well structured novel, I love how it shows the detailed steps in the process of planning and coordinating a strike of apple pickers.
That this novel provides such a precise process is likely why it is only the 12th most read Steinbeck novel. The strike process is more important than the interpersonal relations, so far.
The fact that the organizers are 'Reds' while realistic for the times may also limit its popularity and its use on high school curricula as many other Steinbecks are. I read The Grapes of Wrath, The Pearl, The Red Pony and Of Mice and Men as required reading during high school.


message 8: by Brian E (new)

Brian E Reynolds | -1126 comments FINISHED
The book kind of slowed down a bit toward the end, presumably a lull before the storm. I am still evaluating what I think of the end storm.
(view spoiler)


message 9: by Brian E (last edited Mar 17, 2021 03:14PM) (new)

Brian E Reynolds | -1126 comments I will look to see of I can see the James Franco's 2016 movie of In Dubious Battle. It seems to be cast well as I can envision all the actors in their roles:
Nat Woolf - Jim
James Franco - Mac
Vincent D'onofrio - London
Selena Gomez - Lisa
and some great actors he got to play small roles
Ed Harris - Joy
Robert Duvall - Bolter (the fruit-growers leader)

Franco did a few movies of classic novels at the time, the others adaptations of two Faulkners, The Sound and the Fury and As I Lay Dying. They don't have very high IMDb ratings though.


message 10: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15634 comments Mod
The ending was a bit of a surprise for me, since it was so sudden, but it works.


message 11: by Tr1sha (new)

Tr1sha | 1043 comments I finished reading this & think I like it best of the author’s books I’ve read so far. Perhaps that is only because I’m more used to his style of writing. My only disappointment was the sudden ending, though perhaps any other possible ending might not have seemed realistic.


message 12: by Brian E (new)

Brian E Reynolds | -1126 comments SPOILERS -
Trisha, I agree its a very good Steinbeck. As I earlier stated, the ending is abrupt because with the emphasis on the strike process you expect to see what happens to the strike rather than any one person. Upon reflection, I agree with Rosemarie that the ending does work as it makes you imagine what happens next and I don't think I'd really want to read written pages of what I imagine happens next.


message 13: by Tr1sha (new)

Tr1sha | 1043 comments Brian wrote: "SPOILERS -
Trisha, I agree its a very good Steinbeck. As I earlier stated, the ending is abrupt because with the emphasis on the strike process you expect to see what happens to the strike rather ..."


Thank you so much, Brian. I thought the characters were described perfectly & I agree that I prefer to imagine what happens next. I have so much more to learn about Steinbeck’s books, it’s good to discover more about them.


message 14: by Valentina (last edited Mar 24, 2021 11:31AM) (new)

Valentina Di Nisio (ntina) | 8 comments My first Steinbeck and I really appreciated every single word in it. (view spoiler)


message 15: by Valentina (new)

Valentina Di Nisio (ntina) | 8 comments Brian wrote: "I will look to see of I can see the James Franco's 2016 movie of In Dubious Battle."

Thank you for the tip Brian! I will look for this movie too now!


message 16: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

Lesle | 8411 comments Mod
I finally got to this one. I found the process to be well manipulated for the end means of the strike by Mac. His political value was all about the cause and lets nothing stand in the way of that goal. Making the most out of the trials of misfortune. He wanted Jim to be the one to infiltrate and see if he could gain supporters for the strike. During the processes even the losses was a cause for momentum.
I think Steinbeck put a great value in his research for this one. The protagonist, Jim was spot on to what I had researched about the strikes. A story about human treatment of fair labor and conditions. 4 stars.


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