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Darcey | 1846 comments Mod
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Laysa | 85 comments I noticed that I never told you where I'm from, btw. As you might have noticed because of my English, I'm not from an English-speaking country, lol.
I'm from Brazil! Olá! (:

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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Oh no, you're English is really good :) Aww, this is so cute! I'm from Pakistan.


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Laysa | 85 comments Aqsa wrote: "Oh no, you're English is really good :) Aww, this is so cute! I'm from Pakistan."

Awww, you're my first friend from Pakistan!

If your culinary is any close (though, I know you're from different subregions of Asia) to the Persian and Israeli ones I envy you!

Nice to properly meet you!

I'm a tiny bit behind in Lore, but I guess until tomorrow I'll have read until chapter 22.


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments Oh you're from Brazil, cool! I'm from India :)


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Laysa wrote: "Aqsa wrote: "Oh no, you're English is really good :) Aww, this is so cute! I'm from Pakistan."

Awww, you're my first friend from Pakistan!

If your culinary is any close (though, I know you're fro..."


It's an honor :) Haha not quite, but I wouldn't trade that!

Nice to meet you as well, Laysa :)

That's alright, if you'd like to continue with us, then do join :)


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Chapter 12
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Chapter 13:
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Chapter 14
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Chapter 15
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Part 2: Carrying Fire
Chapter 16
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Chapter 17
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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Guys, are you reading?


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Laysa | 85 comments Aqsa wrote: "Guys, are you reading?"

Yes, yes!

I'm so sorry. Too much work today.

About chapter 12: I was SO NOT expecting Philip to die so fast!!! Like, I was positive he would try to kill Castor, but wow, not in the first second he was alone. I thought he would try to win some of Castor's trust.

Chapter 13: I gotta say, I have a thing for MC that are all soft, like Castor. Though I like Lore's fiery personality I wish she was more open with Cas. As you said, he spent 7 years in a non-corporeal form and is heavily implied he did not have many friends even as a child.
What Wrath did to her family, the little sisters is monstrous, though is not that far from Philip trying to force little girls into sexual slavery.

Chapter 14: Can't lie, I like Artemis's thirst for vengeance on her brother. XD Do NOT like that she killed a lot of young girls.

Chapter 15: Yeah, the jury's still out for Van, I hope he won't let me down.

Chapter 16: The whole binding thing is fishy, I don't see why Athena would need Lore considering it just raises her chances of getting killed.

Chapter 17: YESSS, I like the characters but I was hoping for a more mature approach because they're around 17-19 years old, and honestly the circumstances in which they were raised got me thinking they would have matured faster. But I still get "teenagery" feels about them. It's just me or is it too soon to ship Miles and Van? XD Now, seriously, I need more background on Lore.


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
No worries, it's understandable but just needed confirmation lol.

Oh, I agree, Philip was just thrown aside too quickly with the hype he was given. OMG, yes, the treatment of girls throughout is disgusting. Yes, I liked both sisters wanting to avenge Apollo. Artemis looked so good, lol, in the most savage way.

I agree, for how close Cas and Lore have been, it seemed weird to hide all that from him when he was being so open. Perhaps it's because he has become a god, that she is being like this? Still, didn't enjoy that. Maybe she has guilt about the past.

Yes, it is weird indeed, the whole binding concept. Both increased their chances of dying, especially Lore with how fragile Athena's condition was at that moment. Perhaps that was the only way of trust.

Ugh, I agree. It annoyed me at times, the whole bickering. Athena's dialogue has been the most enjoyable. Haha, that ship does sound like a fun one. Oh, now you've got me rooting for it too haha. I think Van does have good intentions but he is hiding something nonetheless. Lore's story regarding Iro is about to unravel for now.


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Laysa | 85 comments Aqsa wrote: "No worries, it's understandable but just needed confirmation lol.

Oh, I agree, Philip was just thrown aside too quickly with the hype he was given. OMG, yes, the treatment of girls throughout is d..."


Yes, Artemis looked really good, I could picture the whole huntress look. Love it!

Lore and Cas have history, that's for sure... I think you're right, she has some guilt stored. Athena may have a more insidious agenda... I like her, but I don't fully trust her.

You're right, Athena is the best until now lololol she's sarcastic and very self assured. I think she's awesome! I hope Van is not planning on betraying them, but right now I'm kinda distrusting everyone. Though let's be honest, the biggest plot twist would be if Miles was somehow involved in the Agon.


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments sorry for being late again guess im a slacker buddy reader xD


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments @ aqsa yess i also find Athena to be most enjoyable of them all

@laysa lol yes miles being involved would definitely be the biggest twist


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments here are my thoughts:

i'm just saying, if anything would have happened to the dog, i was done.

Castor/new Apollo still seems old Castor to me, but I guess not to everyone else.

well i was very glad Philip died, i wasn't looking forward to have to put up with him throughout the rest of the story haha

there’s clearly something being hidden from us and Lore knows a lot more than she’s letting on....

why is this book giving me more questions than answers?

im having a hard time connecting with the characters like they're all fine but i can't bring myself to actually feel something towards them...... i think this book would have been much better if it had multiple POVs that way we would gotten to know the characters more in depth

omg I love how Athena talks about Miles and comes up to take his side like"I enjoy the company of this mortal, he stays"
"once again the mortals knowledge about the city has outstripped whatever you all bring"
WHAT CHARMS DID MILES USE TO BEWITCH HER????
well whatever charms he used to enchant the goddess it definitely is not working on Van or is it??? lmaooo

Bracken should just straight up say that Miles is into Van i mean she keeps mentioning Miles said this "uncharacteristically" did this "uncharacteristically" whenever Van is around and i mean we have eyes we can see how his ears got pink and how he tries to match his cold gaze with his own and blah blah


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments ALSO I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT VAN BEING SUSPICIOUS AF
its weird that lore or cas doesn't realize it


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments heyy guys goodreads is acting really weird now my notifs are showing me that you both commented on here but I can't see anything :/


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments if you guys did comment after msg 15, then plz pm me or something cz i can't see it


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Laysa | 85 comments Fatima (thevillainapologist)✨: "im having a hard time connecting with the characters like they're all fine but i can't bring myself to actually feel something towards them...... i think this book would have been much better if it had multiple POVs that way we would gotten to know the characters more in depth"

YES GIRL. I'm having trouble with that too, that's kinda disappointing because I really wanna like this book. But to be honest until now my emotions are very bland towards them.

The best of them being Athena and the best part being my weird inclination towards the Miles/Van ship, and that's saying something considering I don't even fully trust both.


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Laysa | 85 comments Fatima (thevillainapologist)✨ wrote: "heyy guys goodreads is acting really weird now my notifs are showing me that you both commented on here but I can't see anything :/"

I had this problem yesterday, I hope everything is functioning how it should now. I'll PM you anyway just to let you know.


message 20: by Aqsa, Dracarys! (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Laysa

Yes, Artemis looked really good, I could picture the whole huntress look. Love it!

Haha same, it was perfect!

Athena may have a more insidious agenda... I like her, but I don't fully trust her.

She can never be trusted.

You're right, Athena is the best until now lololol she's sarcastic and very self assured. I think she's awesome! I hope Van is not planning on betraying them, but right now I'm kinda distrusting everyone. Though let's be honest, the biggest plot twist would be if Miles was somehow involved in the Agon.

Yes, that's perhaps why I'm enjoying her scenes the most. Yeah, Van is surely hiding something, I hope we could trust him. Oh damn yes haha that would definitely be the biggest twist! But from his weird reactions, maybe he isn't? Now you got me hoping lol!

The best of them being Athena and the best part being my weird inclination towards the Miles/Van ship, and that's saying something considering I don't even fully trust both.

Ouf, I feel the same. Nothing else is making me obsess about this story which is sad.


message 21: by Aqsa, Dracarys! (last edited Apr 14, 2021 11:04AM) (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Fatima:

@ aqsa yess i also find Athena to be most enjoyable of them all


Haha yes! I love every dialogue of her!

i'm just saying, if anything would have happened to the dog, i was done.

Haha, I feel you, I was like, no no no, don't like Chiron! Haha. I was definitely concerned about only him.

Castor/new Apollo still seems old Castor to me, but I guess not to everyone else.

Surely! I think Lore is being too judgy though. Let's see. He seems most natural tbh. Lore feels like the one changed.

well i was very glad Philip died, i wasn't looking forward to have to put up with him throughout the rest of the story haha

It is a relief, yes but I was kinda hyped about him after all those things about his position and power and the loyalty he inspired along with the spine he had. He could have been a major thorn somewhere further into the Agon.

there’s clearly something being hidden from us and Lore knows a lot more than she’s letting on....

A lot more.

why is this book giving me more questions than answers?

Haha, we'll get some soon!

im having a hard time connecting with the characters like they're all fine but i can't bring myself to actually feel something towards them...... i think this book would have been much better if it had multiple POVs that way we would gotten to know the characters more in depth

I feel you! The whole story and plot is really good, but I'm not enjoying much of anything except Athena and her sassy comments. Moreover, their bickering is also putting me off, and yes it's just hard to connect to any of them. I could feel about Lore's family though. That was written so beautifully, but the rest is hard to connect with. I'm a bit disappointed.

omg I love how Athena talks about Miles and comes up to take his side like"I enjoy the company of this mortal, he stays"
"once again the mortals knowledge about the city has outstripped whatever you all bring"
WHAT CHARMS DID MILES USE TO BEWITCH HER????
well whatever charms he used to enchant the goddess it definitely is not working on Van or is it??? lmaooo


That's genuinely the best haha, I am immensely enjoying that. I think Athena got fond of him after he refused to leave Lore to save himself lol. I hope she doesn't have any evil plans for him though.

Bracken should just straight up say that Miles is into Van i mean she keeps mentioning Miles said this "uncharacteristically" did this "uncharacteristically" whenever Van is around and i mean we have eyes we can see how his ears got pink and how he tries to match his cold gaze with his own and blah blah

Okay, I'm officially blind lol. I did not think of it until Laysa mentioned xD And now you too!

ALSO I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT VAN BEING SUSPICIOUS AF
its weird that lore or cas doesn't realize it

It is! He keeps finding stupid excuses and it was especially apparent when Miles volunteered and Van was giving such dumb reasons. So apparent.


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Also about GR, I think it's giving us notifications of the same threads again. It happened with me too yesterday and when I came to the thread, there were only the same posts.


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
P.S. Let's finish this from Chapter 18-22. Everyone has caught up :)


message 24: by Laysa (last edited Apr 15, 2021 10:37AM) (new)

Laysa | 85 comments Ok... Girls, I don't know what to make of things until now.

I gotta start with the fact that besides Lore being all about the training and the tradition, she couldn't keep her mouth shut for half an hour... I mean it was quite clear that the discussion between her father and Wrath was somewhat a big deal.

Then, she actually attacked a girl because her pride was hurt? And don't get me wrong, I normally cut a LOT of slack to MC that are teens, because well... we all are very impulsive at that age. But... I think her actions did not fit her upbringing and her own beliefs.

Now, her action was a tiny bit exaggerated as I see it, BUT c'mon her father couldn't even have a talk to her? Like: look, we're going to see the Kadmides and maybe negotiate some alliance, so I need you to keep quiet while the adults are talking? Control yourself and remember I won't let anyone hurt you.

I mean, that's the least he could do, right? Or I am getting way ahead of myself? XD

The mere thought of Wrath waiting for her to get her first period to have sex with her, made me want to hurl. This moth**ck does not realize this is the 21st century??? YOU DONT HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN YOU CREEPY PEDOPHILE.

Sorry, for my outburst.

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Anyway, then back to the whole gang: I was quite surprised to hear that Hermes and the new Dyonisius are lovers. I thought it was clear that the old Gods would never mix with the new ones, so I'm not sure I have enough going on until now to buy it as believable.

Plus, I gotta say I'm not a fan of the use of technology. I think I was expecting more old-fashioned brawls and weird magic.

We still got almost half a book to finish, so I'm hoping for something that actually gets me going. Otherwise, this little one is only staying on my shelves because of its looks. #sad :(


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Okay, so I couldn't read yet. But I will in a couple of hours. It was an effort to not read your thoughts, Laysa! So sorry it got so late!


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Laysa | 85 comments Aqsa wrote: "Okay, so I couldn't read yet. But I will in a couple of hours. It was an effort to not read your thoughts, Laysa! So sorry it got so late!"

Don't worry!! Take your time. (:

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reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments @Laysa omg i also thought the same about Lore being impulsive, i mean she was in front of THE KADMIDES they're pretty big deal but no our girl gotta show them how unique she is lol honestly lore has got temper issues


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments i was shocked too and i wondered if she would've killed the girl if no one stopped her


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments same about her father why was he quiet all morning???he could've warned her, i remember he told lore about it when they're just about to enter the restaurant


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments omg yes Wrath is totally creepy


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments i didn't thought much Hermes and Dionysus being lovers but now that you've pointed it out im having hard time believing it


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments i also don't like the use of technology, its too convenient


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Laysa wrote: "Aqsa wrote: "Okay, so I couldn't read yet. But I will in a couple of hours. It was an effort to not read your thoughts, Laysa! So sorry it got so late!"

Don't worry!! Take your time. (:

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OMG so cute, thank you!


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
I'm so sorry to keep you both waiting. I really couldn't help it!


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
I'm on the last chapter. Will post soon!


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Chapter 18
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Chapter 19
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Chapter 20
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Chapter 21
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Seven Years Earlier
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Chapter 22
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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Laysa wrote: "Ok... Girls, I don't know what to make of things until now.

I gotta start with the fact that besides Lore being all about the training and the tradition, she couldn't keep her mouth shut for half..."


Your outburst isn't unreasonable! I'm also so disappointed lol. Seriously! About all of it! And I agree about it. And I also can't understand the 'lover' shit. That's most unfathomable!


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Fatima (thevillainapologist)✨ wrote: "i also don't like the use of technology, its too convenient"

I guess we all agree on this one haha.


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Fatima (thevillainapologist)✨ wrote: "same about her father why was he quiet all morning???he could've warned her, i remember he told lore about it when they're just about to enter the restaurant"

I agree. They had quite a walk and he was supposed to warn her for all this.


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Laysa | 85 comments Aqsa wrote: "Chapter 18
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Chapter 19
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Chapter 20
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Chapter 21
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Seven Years Earlier
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Chapter 22
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Giiiirl. SAME.

Sure, there are good people in the world, but to find an old dude willing to leave everything for you, a stranger? Never question her past?? All very shady.

I'm still not on board with Lore overall as a character, she started so powerfully, but now I feel like I don't understand her personality.

I was a bit sad about Heartkeeper dying too :(

The 7years earlier was the best, so far! The bits of Lore's past are taking too long to unfold so this was much needed! THE FATHER. Like WHY? Why not explain to her before the meeting?? *facepalm*

I agree 100% with you, at first it was cute Miles bickering with Van, now it's kinda: stop, act like adults please.


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Seriously, Idk why it just keeps getting worse. The most difficult chapter was Chapter 22. I couldn't finish it lol. The 'lover' thing got me riled up!

Yes, I didn't understand why he would leave everything to her especially when Miles was also in the same boat as her. Idk, I kinda expected better from the book.

Yes, I think it would have been better if the characters were mature. Lore was much more tolerable in the beginning, but now she keeps freezing or is too slow, and too shocked lol. I also can't connect with her which is not helpful because she is our main.

Yes, I agree! It was the best chapter. Haha, probably because all our childish characters were not there, and Lore only made it worse. But yes, it was unwise for her father as well.

Yeah, there seems to be no real reason behind it. Van laughing and then hiding his laughter was a surety of Laysa's prediction of their ship, but this isn't making it good at all.


reality✨(currently on hiatus to recover from life) (antireader) | 194 comments omg i didn't thought much about Gil but now that both of you say...it is kinda weird i mean doesn't he have a family or something 🤔🤔


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Also, since we're gonna give it a chance, for the next chapters, let's do 23-28. I hope it gets better.


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Fatima (thevillainapologist)✨ wrote: "omg i didn't thought much about Gil but now that both of you say...it is kinda weird i mean doesn't he have a family or something 🤔🤔"

Yeah, it's really weird. Why would he trust her so? She was a complete stranger. In the last 7 years, she has been with Iro's family for maybe 3 of those? And that means 4 with Gil and Miles but he chose to leave it all to her.


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
3 years with Gil*. It's written at the beginning of the next chapter lol.


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Laysa | 85 comments Aqsa wrote: "Laysa wrote: "Ok... Girls, I don't know what to make of things until now.

I gotta start with the fact that besides Lore being all about the training and the tradition, she couldn't keep her mouth..."


To me, this is one of the most unrealistic topics considering the situation!!! Like, you're gonna tell me that billions of people in the world Hermes had to fall in love with someone who killed one of his kind??

Now, if only the new Dyonisius was waaaay older I could even find it easier to believe.


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Aqsa (her_747) | 10619 comments Mod
Yes, this was the hardest to digest, like seriously? Idk why they had to throw in love anyway. He became the new Dyonisius a century ago, so can't be too old.


*❆ Kαɾҽɳ ❆* | 3040 comments Mod
Ch 12
- [ ] Hmm Chiron would definitely remember a Castor, if he was himself, like he remembered Lore. What is different in Castor? Is it him?
- [ ] Also I think Phillip is the traitor but it could also be someone who is trusted
- [ ] So Castor did kill Apollo at 12, how is that even possible?
- [ ] Castor couldn’t dive from a dart but he managed to hurt Lore who just saved him??! Really?

Ch 13
- [ ] At least Phillip is dead

Ch 14
- [ ] Wait, so Castor doesn’t know what happened 7 years ago?
- [ ] No not Chiron! Heartless!
- [ ] But I am still questioning why Artemis attached her sister?

Ch 15
- [ ] I am starting to think that Lore May have strength and yet little brains at times, taking a cab is a great idea to hide a trail
- [ ] I am liking Van though, he seemed reasonable unlike Castor

Part 2 - Carrying Fire
Ch 16
- [ ] Omg! Nice catch Castor
- [ ] I am liking Van more, he is very intelligent which I like

Ch 17
- [ ] I loved Miles defiance to Van’s comment. But I have a strong feeling they might be a thing later on in the book
- [ ] Yes I like Miles and I like Van, they would be perfect together
- [ ] I really love the initiative Miles has taken, despite only being told this in just a few hours, he is willing to help

Ch 18
- [ ] Poor Van, sounds like he had a troubling past
- [ ] But he is right I hope they can somehow get Miles out of that mess
- [ ] Miles definitely has courage

Ch 19
- [ ] I am also very impressed with Van’s prosthetic hand
- [ ] They’re too late to help Heartkeeper

Ch 20
- [ ] I hope they can help Iro
- [ ] I wonder what is in the vault, if it is the poem or not

Ch 21
- [ ] Oh my goodness! Castor needs to control his powers!
- [ ] Now Wrath knows of Lore
- [ ] I hope Iro can somehow help their course

Seven Years Earlier
- [ ] Oh my lord, she is wanted by that monster! At only 12! He wants her and now he knows she lives and will get her again
- [ ] Wrath is despicable

Ch 22
- [ ] Yeah Miles is enjoying this way too much and I am worried he might not realised he could die at any moment
- [ ] I really hope he doesn’t die, he is great and smart! I enjoy when he gets on Van’s nerves
- [ ] This was a good set of chapters, can’t wait for the next set!


*❆ Kαɾҽɳ ❆* | 3040 comments Mod
Wow you guys talk a lot haha! There’s no way I can reply to all these great obs but I will go with the basics

I didn’t even realise the lovers are a god and a god killer, but yeah that is weird, we would probably find out more about that in the next set

I do ship Van and Miles, I think there is something there but I think Miles is getting a head of himself and maybe seeing himself as invincible with all these goddesses and gods and heroes near him? I just hope he survives

Hmm didn’t think much of Gil other than an old guy who helped out Lore and she helped him in return but perhaps there was another motive for his choices to leave everything to Lore

I also hated Wrath with little Lore! Like how dare you ask for her hand at only 12 years old!!!! 😡😡😡

I did enjoy reading your thoughts girls! You guys sure know how to keep my head turning and questioning things more !


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Darcey | 1846 comments Mod
*❆ Kαɾҽɳ ❆* wrote: "Wow you guys talk a lot haha! There’s no way I can reply to all these great obs but I will go with the basics

I didn’t even realise the lovers are a god and a god killer, but yeah that is weird, ..."


i agree with your thoughts on Miles, Karen, he's definitely getting a bit ahead of himself and he should really be more careful. honestly, i don't really love his attitude when he's around Van haha. i kinda ship it, but they're also so prickly around one another, and it's a little irritating. but yeah, i also hope Miles survives!

ugh yeah, Wrath was disgusting! and i agree with everyone on the absolute brilliance of the dog haha, what even happened to Castor after everything?

also i agree, Karen, Van's prosthetic hand is super cool!


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