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message 1: by SRC Moderator, Moderator (new)

SRC Moderator | 7060 comments Mod
Please post your general questions about the Summer 2021 Challenge here. Specific questions about individual tasks should be posted in the Help Threads for those tasks. You may find answers to some questions in Default Rules and FAQs.


message 2: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3940 comments I have just read posting requirements they state a "1- 5 word description of the task" only
I want to be sure i understand this - is the description the title of the task or the way you have fulfilled it?

If it is the way you have fulfilled it is it possible to define in less than 5 words?
will a task be identified as having problems if you use more than 5 words

For example Megs task for Summer means that you could read one book to fulfil the following 4 requirements

a. Number of words in the title (ignore subtitle)
b. Number in a series. The series # must be present in the GR metadata.
c. Number included in page number
d. Year FIRST published ends in number (must be the last number in the year, e.g. 2021 equals a "1" book)

I think this would be difficult to reduce to 5 words even putting
"I rolled a 6 and my first book fulfils all 4 requirements for this task" would be 15 words

I understand it is much easier for the mods if we keep our posts as precise as possible but this seems remarkably strict


message 3: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Marie (UK) wrote: "I have just read posting requirements they state a "1- 5 word description of the task" only
I want to be sure i understand this - is the description the title of the task or the way you have fulfi..."


You do realize that this has been in the posting requirements for years?


message 4: by Bea (new)

Bea Marie, I am put a "shortened description" of the task in my posting...not the whole thing. Usually it is a short sentence like "read a book with the author initials in X". In the case of your example, I would put the list.

I think the mods are looking for a succinct statement of the task which can run into a LOT of words...enough so they can judge the posting without looking back at the task.

Mods, if this doesn't work for you, let me know.


message 5: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
As I said before, this has been the requirement for years now. Some folks had decided that they should post the entire task, including all examples in the post - not necessary, confusing, etc.

It has not been a problem since then. Just post the name and number of the task - if you had been doing something wrong, you would have been called out on this long ago.


message 6: by Marie (UK) (last edited May 31, 2021 09:52AM) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3940 comments Sandy wrote: "Marie (UK) wrote: "I have just read posting requirements they state a "1- 5 word description of the task" only
I want to be sure i understand this - is the description the title of the task or the..."


Actually No I didn't know this was old AND I have read the posting requirements every season since it changed to one post per task. I obviously missed this on more than one occasion. My post was a genuine question I was not trying to be awkward


message 7: by Cat (new)

Cat (cat_uk) | 3382 comments Dear Mods, when you do the readerboard update can you sticky it to the top please? :)


message 8: by TraceyL (new)

TraceyL | 1069 comments Hi there. I have a book I would like to read this challenge but there's a weird situation with the page count. The book is Ironclads.

I exclusively listen to audiobooks so I always check the page count to make sure it's 100+. There is no MMPB for this book, but when I look under Paperback, the edition that appears on the top of the list is clearly a different book. It's in another language so I don't know what it says, but it has 45 pages, a different cover that doesn't look at all similar to the real cover, and it says it's #6 in a series when my book is a standalone. The next paperback edition is 206 pages so there's a big difference.

If I post this book as a completed challenge, will I run into trouble? I don't plan on using it for a task that actually has a page count requirement (as in 2 books combined must have 500+ pages).

Please advise. Thanks in advance for your help!


message 9: by Dee (last edited Jun 12, 2021 04:51PM) (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 8947 comments TraceyL wrote: "Hi there. I have a book I would like to read this challenge but there's a weird situation with the page count. The book is Ironclads.

I exclusively listen to audiobooks so I alway..."


i separated that edition out - since it doesn't fit - it looks like that translation may have broken the one book into multiple smaller books - so this is book 6 of it


message 10: by TraceyL (new)

TraceyL | 1069 comments Dee wrote: "TraceyL wrote: "Hi there. I have a book I would like to read this challenge but there's a weird situation with the page count. The book is Ironclads.

I exclusively listen to audio..."


Thank you so much!


message 11: by Aprilleigh (new)

Aprilleigh (aprilleighlauer) | 1261 comments OK, since I've had one book with "atlas" in the title rejected even though it was clear from reading it that it was not, in fact, an atlas, I need to have a moderator examine the "Look Inside" feature on Amazon for Space Atlas: Mapping the Universe and Beyond to verify that it is not an atlas.

Pity the rejected title doesn't have that, too.


message 12: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Aprilleigh wrote: "OK, since I've had one book with "atlas" in the title rejected even though it was clear from reading it that it was not, in fact, an atlas, I need to have a moderator examine the "Look Inside" feat..."

Space Atlas: Mapping the Universe and Beyond is an atlas. Confirmed by Library of Congress form/genre - atlas


message 13: by Aprilleigh (new)

Aprilleigh (aprilleighlauer) | 1261 comments Dlmrose wrote: "Aprilleigh wrote: "OK, since I've had one book with "atlas" in the title rejected even though it was clear from reading it that it was not, in fact, an atlas, I need to have a moderator examine the..."

I appreciate that you indicated where the information came from that was used to make the decision. I disagree, but that's fine. This one is even less an "atlas" than the other one, but at least I know it's not arbitrary because of the title. Thanks for checking.


message 14: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3940 comments Now i know that i really should know the answer to this but if i was using author Mary-Grace Burinski her initials would be MB - for all initials in words given.


message 15: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Marie (UK) wrote: "Now i know that i really should know the answer to this but if i was using author Mary-Grace Burinski her initials would be MB - for all initials in words given."

Correct.

From Default rules:
6. What about authors with hyphenated names?
We treat hyphenated words, including names, as one word. Therefore, John Jones-Smith has the initials JJ, not JS.


message 16: by Marie (UK) (new)

Marie (UK) (mazza1) | 3940 comments Dlmrose wrote: "Marie (UK) wrote: "Now i know that i really should know the answer to this but if i was using author Mary-Grace Burinski her initials would be MB - for all initials in words given..."

thanks my brain must be fried today


message 17: by Teri-K (last edited Jun 25, 2021 06:47AM) (new)

Teri-K A couple of times when I've read an ebook and then linked to the correct print book there's no page number given. So far I've been able to track down page numbers from Amazon, but the last time I had to go to about 8 different places before I found the numbers. I was getting worried! lol

So what should we do if the correct volume to link to doesn't give page numbers and we can't find them anywhere?

Thanks.


message 18: by Robin P (last edited Jun 25, 2021 08:17AM) (new)

Robin P | 1609 comments Teri-K wrote: "A couple of times when I've read an ebook and then linked to the correct print book there's no page number given. So far I've been able to track down page numbers from Amazon, but the last time I h..."

I just came across this, in fact 2 of us just had that exact issue resolved in the ebook verification thread, so you could post there (or maybe librarians thread, since the fix is to add the page numbers to the GR record?) So weird that this happens, when GR and Amazon should be using the same data.


message 19: by Teri-K (new)

Teri-K Robin P wrote: "Teri-K wrote: "A couple of times when I've read an ebook and then linked to the correct print book there's no page number given. So far I've been able to track down page numbers from Amazon, but th..."

I'm a librarian on GR, too. Though you don't have to be to add page numbers, I don't think. But if I can't find the page number there's nothing to add...

I wondered about going to the ebook thread and getting it at least verified as being long enough. I'll see the what the official answer is, but thanks for your input. :)


message 20: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Teri-K wrote: "A couple of times when I've read an ebook and then linked to the correct print book there's no page number given. So far I've been able to track down page numbers from Amazon, but the last time I h..."

If you are unable to have a librarian add the page numbers to a print edition you can have the book approved for 100+ pages at ebook verification.


message 21: by Teri-K (new)

Teri-K Great. Thanks.


message 22: by Chris (last edited Jun 26, 2021 05:43PM) (new)

Chris (chrismd) | 1237 comments What does it take to prove a book's location?

Task 25.7 option 3 requires a book be set at least 50% in Florida or Texas and says if it's not apparent in the GR description or metadata to provide a link to confirm the location.
I can't find one from the author or publisher! I read the first book in this series for option 4 of the same task and discovered it's set in Jacksonville FL. So I read the second book for option 3. But none of the books in the series list a location on GR. Neither does the author's website (although it says she lives in Florida.) I've got quotes from the book that say where it is and I've got two bloggers who have written about the series, and they state the location is Jacksonville - but that's it. Is this acceptable?
Book I want to claim is A Tiger's Tale
Thanks!


message 23: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Chris wrote: "What does it take to prove a book's location?

Task 25.7 option 3 requires a book be set at least 50% in Florida or Texas and says if it's not apparent in the GR description or metadata to provide..."



I've got quotes from the book that say where it is and I've got two bloggers who have written about the series, and they state the location is Jacksonville.
Those would work to establish the setting.
So does the description at Stop, You're Killing Me! "Grace Wilde, an animal behaviorist who can communicate psychically with animals, in Florida, in the Call of the Wilde series:"


message 24: by Kim, Moderator (new)

Kim (kmyers) | 1043 comments Mod
Did I miss the announcement about voting for the 50 pt task? See: Voting will start the next day, July 6 and will close at the end of the day on July 12.
Thanks!


message 25: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Kim wrote: "Did I miss the announcement about voting for the 50 pt task? See: Voting will start the next day, July 6 and will close at the end of the day on July 12.
Thanks!"


You mean this poll announcement?


message 26: by Kim, Moderator (new)

Kim (kmyers) | 1043 comments Mod
Dlmrose wrote: "Kim wrote: "Did I miss the announcement about voting for the 50 pt task? See: Voting will start the next day, July 6 and will close at the end of the day on July 12.
Thanks!"

You mean this poll an..."

That one, thanks!


message 27: by Coralie (last edited Jul 28, 2021 02:39AM) (new)

Coralie I am currently reading This Virtual Night for a task that has a page requirement. There is no mass market paperback and the paperback edition This Virtual Night is not published until September. Do I use the paperback page count or the hard cover which is already published?


message 28: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Coralie wrote: "I am currently reading This Virtual Night for a task that has a page requirement. There is no mass market paperback and the paperback edition This Virtual Night is n..."

Please use the paperback.


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