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darrow with fellows
Yeah. You can put me in the brig if you want, but I think the cells are all filled up. Or you can let me do my job. If Sir Pukealot here can have your back, so can I.” Alexandar glowers in embarrassment. “By my count we’re two weeks in. No way to turn back now, Uncle. You’re stuck with me.” She’s right.
- okay i hadn't mention Darrow's niece last time , but man , she got big iron balls indeed. that was a fresh piece of information i wonder if she will have a bold appearance later on
ephraim and lyria
I think you’re my only friend.”
“And what do friends do? Friends help each other. You carry my shadows. I carry yours for a spell.”
-okay i didn't know ephraim is such a softie , i honestly pictured him someone like dancer and like. and i didn't know i need this banter until now. good to see 😊
Yes. They keep me in a bubble here. I want to understand.”
“Understand?” He steps back from me and my cruel eyes. “Little Gold wants to hear about the nasty shit? The cancer, the pitvipers? Maybe you wanna go on about how they force us to marry at fourteen so we can get to breeding. Or how mine guards rape us for meds. They did that, you know, boys and girls. Don’t show that on the HC for all you highColors.”
-also , since lyria is already in luna , where golds are mostly living , having her path crossed with pax and mustang was interesting. oh and i pity pax. he is such a lonely boy . he just wants his daddy. and the way he had information about all soldiers and staffs?? and the way lyria was so angrily talking about her life and all , i'm sure pax understands but not the way lyria thinks so , so that was a little miscommunication.
-another thing , did you guys realize what ephraim true mission is? i'll just say it , stealing some high proffesional children. creepy and does that ring a bell for you ???? because it does for me and i'm scared .

Lysander
Just because I believe in actual romance instead of plundering the virtue from merchants’ daughters and buggering everything that moves like a gorydamn Gaul does not mean that I should be shamed.”
“ ‘Like a gorydamn Gaul?’ My goodman, you curse like you’re ninety.”
“And you’re a hypocritical fornicator.”
“Gods, you really haven’t been laid, brother.”
-I'm sorry i just had to mention this 😂😂 honestly cassius and lysander banter is sometimes cheff's kiss.
- something i wanted to mention about lysander , although I'm not still sure about his motives , but he definitely isn't on the right side. he still has some feelings toward when he was with his grandmother and that surely is effecting him.I personally don’t hate him. I see him as a kid, a kid who had a rough upbringing and was taught to value order and peace at the expense of others. His desire for unification of the Golds “for the good of mankind” has blinded him into a campaign that he doesn’t even fully understand.there are so many parallels between him and Darrow. Worshiped by some, hated by others.
okay my brief update before i reply to yegi:
- i'm a genius, i knew darrow's niece would stow away! absolute genius.
- i'm a genius 2.0, i knew the big heist was for a person not a physical thing (though i didn't quite know who)
- i'm too much of a genius for my own good, i suspected that ephraim was using lyria for something to do with the heist :((
in conclusion, i wasn't too shocked by anything that happened in this set, it's just like when we guessed what happened in Cinderella is Dead, Karen! but on a much smaller scale haha.
EDIT: i decided to turn this into a longer update... anyway, my thoughts!
Ephraim & Lyria:
- i'm scared for pax and electra... i hope they're both okay... and kavax better not die, or i'll throw hands. but omg, darrow, sevro, mustang and victra are going to absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT in their determination to get their kids back haha. this is going to get ugly. i hope the kids are alright...
- i don't even love the kids that much yet, but my babies (darrow, sevro, mustang, victra) love them, so i have to like them😂
- i'm so freaking disappointed in ephraim... i thought better of him... i know he was kinda forced into this, but kids, ephraim? really? i love that volga voiced her disapproval (in a way), i just wish she'd do more.
- lyria, that was embarrassing. you got played so easily that even i saw it coming (i don't think pierce was being subtle haha, it was pretty clear ephraim had an ulterior motive). but yeah that was just really sad to watch on your behalf, lyria. (i don't know why i'm talking in second person right now haha). anyway, poor lyria!
- and to think ephraim would've killed her if the safety was off... he didn't even really help her, mustang and victra will hunt her down for the accidental part she played in pax and electra's capture.
Darrow:
- honestly not much happening for darrow, but wow, this minotaur seems like an absolute psycho haha. i wonder if their plan will work, or if pierce will break our hearts again with another failed plan?
Cassius & Lysander:
- things aren't looking to good for cassius, either... he's about to duel belepheron or whatever his name is, and he's not exactly in peak dueling shape. i don't think this will go well for cassius... he might not even survive this one. it's not as if pierce isn't afraid to kill off characters :((. i have mixed feelings on cassius, but i don't want him to die!
- yeah i don't like lysander much... i honestly wish he'd just die and i wouldn't have to worry about the trouble he could (and probably will) cause darrow😂. i'm selfish, and i don't care hehe.
- but wow, they really got played by dido and seraphina haha... it was a little embarrassing, almost as bad as the way lyria got played. not so smart now, ay lysander?
hopefully you can catch up soon, karen sis! and i've loved discussing with you and look forward to reading more, yegi❤.
- i'm a genius, i knew darrow's niece would stow away! absolute genius.
- i'm a genius 2.0, i knew the big heist was for a person not a physical thing (though i didn't quite know who)
- i'm too much of a genius for my own good, i suspected that ephraim was using lyria for something to do with the heist :((
in conclusion, i wasn't too shocked by anything that happened in this set, it's just like when we guessed what happened in Cinderella is Dead, Karen! but on a much smaller scale haha.
EDIT: i decided to turn this into a longer update... anyway, my thoughts!
Ephraim & Lyria:
- i'm scared for pax and electra... i hope they're both okay... and kavax better not die, or i'll throw hands. but omg, darrow, sevro, mustang and victra are going to absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT in their determination to get their kids back haha. this is going to get ugly. i hope the kids are alright...
- i don't even love the kids that much yet, but my babies (darrow, sevro, mustang, victra) love them, so i have to like them😂
- i'm so freaking disappointed in ephraim... i thought better of him... i know he was kinda forced into this, but kids, ephraim? really? i love that volga voiced her disapproval (in a way), i just wish she'd do more.
- lyria, that was embarrassing. you got played so easily that even i saw it coming (i don't think pierce was being subtle haha, it was pretty clear ephraim had an ulterior motive). but yeah that was just really sad to watch on your behalf, lyria. (i don't know why i'm talking in second person right now haha). anyway, poor lyria!
- and to think ephraim would've killed her if the safety was off... he didn't even really help her, mustang and victra will hunt her down for the accidental part she played in pax and electra's capture.
Darrow:
- honestly not much happening for darrow, but wow, this minotaur seems like an absolute psycho haha. i wonder if their plan will work, or if pierce will break our hearts again with another failed plan?
Cassius & Lysander:
- things aren't looking to good for cassius, either... he's about to duel belepheron or whatever his name is, and he's not exactly in peak dueling shape. i don't think this will go well for cassius... he might not even survive this one. it's not as if pierce isn't afraid to kill off characters :((. i have mixed feelings on cassius, but i don't want him to die!
- yeah i don't like lysander much... i honestly wish he'd just die and i wouldn't have to worry about the trouble he could (and probably will) cause darrow😂. i'm selfish, and i don't care hehe.
- but wow, they really got played by dido and seraphina haha... it was a little embarrassing, almost as bad as the way lyria got played. not so smart now, ay lysander?
hopefully you can catch up soon, karen sis! and i've loved discussing with you and look forward to reading more, yegi❤.
@Yegi
okay i hadn't mention Darrow's niece last time , but man , she got big iron balls indeed.
haha yes she's definitely brave... i hope she survives and gets to play her part! darrow and his brother will be heartbroken if she dies.
i pity pax. he is such a lonely boy . he just wants his daddy.
i know... poor pax. he deserves so much better, and he definitely doesn't deserve to be kidnapped!
creepy and does that ring a bell for you ???? because it does for me and i'm scared .
haha yep super creepy... who does it remind you of?
but yeah, i'm soooo disappointed in ephraim for this, and i stand with volga's dislike of him. i wish volga would save the kids and leave on her own... but it's unlikely, she's way too loyal to ephraim. but yes, so disappointed in ephraim.
something i wanted to mention about lysander , although I'm not still sure about his motives , but he definitely isn't on the right side.
ahh yeah, he definitely can't be trusted and definitely won't be an ally to darrow, but i also don't hate him - yet. i kinda dislike him though😂. but yeah, he's definitely been raised on the wrong side... it'll be interesting to see what happens to him.
there are so many parallels between him and Darrow. Worshiped by some, hated by others.
yes so true. love that thought, yegi❤.
okay i hadn't mention Darrow's niece last time , but man , she got big iron balls indeed.
haha yes she's definitely brave... i hope she survives and gets to play her part! darrow and his brother will be heartbroken if she dies.
i pity pax. he is such a lonely boy . he just wants his daddy.
i know... poor pax. he deserves so much better, and he definitely doesn't deserve to be kidnapped!
creepy and does that ring a bell for you ???? because it does for me and i'm scared .
haha yep super creepy... who does it remind you of?
but yeah, i'm soooo disappointed in ephraim for this, and i stand with volga's dislike of him. i wish volga would save the kids and leave on her own... but it's unlikely, she's way too loyal to ephraim. but yes, so disappointed in ephraim.
something i wanted to mention about lysander , although I'm not still sure about his motives , but he definitely isn't on the right side.
ahh yeah, he definitely can't be trusted and definitely won't be an ally to darrow, but i also don't hate him - yet. i kinda dislike him though😂. but yeah, he's definitely been raised on the wrong side... it'll be interesting to see what happens to him.
there are so many parallels between him and Darrow. Worshiped by some, hated by others.
yes so true. love that thought, yegi❤.
Ch 31 Ephraim - Kites
- [ ] Okay now that I found out Phillipe is Ephraim, (I don’t know how you guys caught onto that! Such geniuses!), it seems he is using Lyria for the pendant probably has a tracking or mic in it, so what do they want from the Telemaus?
Ch 32 Lysander - The Rending
- [ ] Oh dear, I am starting to rethink my thoughts on Lysander. Please don’t let him go rogue!
Ch 33 Lysander - Alien
- [ ] Prey indeed, I wonder what Seraphina’s mother wants with them now
Ch 34 Darrow - Apollonius au Valii-Rath
- [ ] Ha yep of course Rhona would snuck into the ship, I knew it
- [ ] Man this plan of theirs to use Apollonius could go terribly wrong and then they have a maniac on the lose! I hope they know what they are doing
Ch 35 Lyria- Teardrop in the door
- [ ] HOW DARE SHE INSULT PAX LIKE THAT!! I can’t believe she actually said that to him! He is a red and a Gold it’s not his fault he has been left in the dark because of it and just wanted to learn from someone who has lived there!
- [ ] Oh no! They’ve been gassed! What will they take, or who! Please not Pax or any of the children!
Ch 36 Lysander - Dinner with Dragons
- [ ] Oh no, they’re about to get discovered!
Ch 37 Lysander - Prey
- [ ] Oh man this is about revenge on her daughter! Damn this is going to get interesting!
Ch 38 Lysander - Gruesli
- [ ] Oh my gosh that was disgusting to read
- [ ] Now Cassius has to fight, but what will become of Lysander? They think he’s Cassius brother, but if they find out the truth?
- [ ] I don’t know if I want Cassius to die, I was kinda hoping he will see Darrow somehow, see where that leads, because I fear if Cassius dies, Lysander will challenge Darrow for the throne indeed
Ch 39 Ephraim - Lion’s Den
- [ ] They took Pax!!!! And did they take all the children too!! Is Servo’s daughters with them too!
- [ ] This is their heist! I shouldn’t be surprised but I am! Why did they take the children!
- [ ] And poor Lyria! I kinda wish she was shot instead, now she must live on the run! She will never see Liam again! Ephraim has robbed her life! Argh I hate this!
- [ ] Okay now that I found out Phillipe is Ephraim, (I don’t know how you guys caught onto that! Such geniuses!), it seems he is using Lyria for the pendant probably has a tracking or mic in it, so what do they want from the Telemaus?
Ch 32 Lysander - The Rending
- [ ] Oh dear, I am starting to rethink my thoughts on Lysander. Please don’t let him go rogue!
Ch 33 Lysander - Alien
- [ ] Prey indeed, I wonder what Seraphina’s mother wants with them now
Ch 34 Darrow - Apollonius au Valii-Rath
- [ ] Ha yep of course Rhona would snuck into the ship, I knew it
- [ ] Man this plan of theirs to use Apollonius could go terribly wrong and then they have a maniac on the lose! I hope they know what they are doing
Ch 35 Lyria- Teardrop in the door
- [ ] HOW DARE SHE INSULT PAX LIKE THAT!! I can’t believe she actually said that to him! He is a red and a Gold it’s not his fault he has been left in the dark because of it and just wanted to learn from someone who has lived there!
- [ ] Oh no! They’ve been gassed! What will they take, or who! Please not Pax or any of the children!
Ch 36 Lysander - Dinner with Dragons
- [ ] Oh no, they’re about to get discovered!
Ch 37 Lysander - Prey
- [ ] Oh man this is about revenge on her daughter! Damn this is going to get interesting!
Ch 38 Lysander - Gruesli
- [ ] Oh my gosh that was disgusting to read
- [ ] Now Cassius has to fight, but what will become of Lysander? They think he’s Cassius brother, but if they find out the truth?
- [ ] I don’t know if I want Cassius to die, I was kinda hoping he will see Darrow somehow, see where that leads, because I fear if Cassius dies, Lysander will challenge Darrow for the throne indeed
Ch 39 Ephraim - Lion’s Den
- [ ] They took Pax!!!! And did they take all the children too!! Is Servo’s daughters with them too!
- [ ] This is their heist! I shouldn’t be surprised but I am! Why did they take the children!
- [ ] And poor Lyria! I kinda wish she was shot instead, now she must live on the run! She will never see Liam again! Ephraim has robbed her life! Argh I hate this!
Yeganeh wrote:
okay i hadn't mention Darrow's niece last time , but man , she got big iron balls indeed. that was a fresh piece of information i wonder if she will have a bold appearance later on
So true, but yes I reckon she will have a big moment, perhaps even rescuing the children too. Can't wait to read more about her
and the way he had information about all soldiers and staffs?? and the way lyria was so angrily talking about her life and all , i'm sure pax understands but not the way lyria thinks so , so that was a little miscommunication.
Tbh she should not have lashed her anger out on him, he is just a kid trying to understand a world he has been sheltered from. He is a Red by blood like her, and even if he has not experienced the hardships she has, he is making an effort to try and understand it. That is saying a lot for a 10 year old!
I have such a soft spot for Pax, no one better mistreat my baby's little baby!
creepy and does that ring a bell for you ???? because it does for me and i'm scared .
Well, the first thing that comes to mind when I read this was the Hunger Games? Even though they didn't really steal children, more like offered them up for slaughter haha
But what does it remind you of?
something i wanted to mention about lysander , although I'm not still sure about his motives , but he definitely isn't on the right side. he still has some feelings toward when he was with his grandmother and that surely is effecting him.I personally don’t hate him. I see him as a kid, a kid who had a rough upbringing and was taught to value order and peace at the expense of others. His desire for unification of the Golds “for the good of mankind” has blinded him into a campaign that he doesn’t even fully understand.there are so many parallels between him and Darrow. Worshiped by some, hated by others
I really like your thoughts here, and yes I agree with you. Lysander is definitely having mixed feelings. While Cassius has lost all hope for his colour, Lysander has not and it does cloud his judgement. I have mixed feelings for him too, and hope he does not go astray, but I reckon he will too. Especially if Cassius is killed
okay i hadn't mention Darrow's niece last time , but man , she got big iron balls indeed. that was a fresh piece of information i wonder if she will have a bold appearance later on
So true, but yes I reckon she will have a big moment, perhaps even rescuing the children too. Can't wait to read more about her
and the way he had information about all soldiers and staffs?? and the way lyria was so angrily talking about her life and all , i'm sure pax understands but not the way lyria thinks so , so that was a little miscommunication.
Tbh she should not have lashed her anger out on him, he is just a kid trying to understand a world he has been sheltered from. He is a Red by blood like her, and even if he has not experienced the hardships she has, he is making an effort to try and understand it. That is saying a lot for a 10 year old!
I have such a soft spot for Pax, no one better mistreat my baby's little baby!
creepy and does that ring a bell for you ???? because it does for me and i'm scared .
Well, the first thing that comes to mind when I read this was the Hunger Games? Even though they didn't really steal children, more like offered them up for slaughter haha
But what does it remind you of?
something i wanted to mention about lysander , although I'm not still sure about his motives , but he definitely isn't on the right side. he still has some feelings toward when he was with his grandmother and that surely is effecting him.I personally don’t hate him. I see him as a kid, a kid who had a rough upbringing and was taught to value order and peace at the expense of others. His desire for unification of the Golds “for the good of mankind” has blinded him into a campaign that he doesn’t even fully understand.there are so many parallels between him and Darrow. Worshiped by some, hated by others
I really like your thoughts here, and yes I agree with you. Lysander is definitely having mixed feelings. While Cassius has lost all hope for his colour, Lysander has not and it does cloud his judgement. I have mixed feelings for him too, and hope he does not go astray, but I reckon he will too. Especially if Cassius is killed
Darce wrote:
i'm a genius, i knew darrow's niece would stow away! absolute genius.
- i'm a genius 2.0, i knew the big heist was for a person not a physical thing (though i didn't quite know who)
- i'm too much of a genius for my own good, i suspected that ephraim was using lyria for something to do with the heist :((
in conclusion, i wasn't too shocked by anything that happened in this set, it's just like when we guessed what happened in Cinderella is Dead, Karen! but on a much smaller scale haha.
We are geniuses! I also guessed she would stow away and I kinda half guessed about the children. Your thought on the heist being a person gave me the thought of Pax and the kids so yay for us!
And yes I also realised Ephraim was only using Lyria for the heist!
But yes I was not too shocked either, but that last part with Kavax! I really hope he is not dead!
Hahah so true! It was definitely a smaller scale than Cinderella is dead Darcey but a small victory is worth celebrating! Yaayy!
omg, darrow, sevro, mustang and victra are going to absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT in their determination to get their kids back haha. this is going to get ugly. i hope the kids are alright...
OMG I know! But how will they know! They are basically off the grid! They might not find out for ages unless the Duke of Hands somehow communicates with them. Plus lets not forget there is a traitor Howler on board too, who could it be ...
i don't even love the kids that much yet, but my babies (darrow, sevro, mustang, victra) love them, so i have to like them😂
Girl speak for yourself, even since Pax was insulted by Lyria, my mama bear mood has emerged and I now love him and will protect him with me life!
i'm so freaking disappointed in ephraim... i thought better of him... i know he was kinda forced into this, but kids, ephraim? really? i love that volga voiced her disapproval (in a way), i just wish she'd do more.
I know, and I guess that's why he is perfect for the job, he is a good liar and manipulator but unlike other times, this time Lyria reminds him of Trigg, so perhaps he might have a changed of heart later on? But we shall see
And yes, I see that Volga had expressed her disapproval for a while now, probably since the start but yeah I really wished she has voiced her concerns sooner. Perhaps she can help rescue the children later on?
lyria, that was embarrassing. you got played so easily that even i saw it coming (i don't think pierce was being subtle haha, it was pretty clear ephraim had an ulterior motive). but yeah that was just really sad to watch on your behalf, lyria. (i don't know why i'm talking in second person right now haha). anyway, poor lyria!
Ah I know right, it was clear from a mile away but yeah I guess she was so desperate for a friend to understand her she didn't see the red flags in time
and to think ephraim would've killed her if the safety was off... he didn't even really help her, mustang and victra will hunt her down for the accidental part she played in pax and electra's capture.
I know! They will track her down, Victra will pregnant and all! Poor thing, he basically ruined her new start to a better life! I really wished he had shot her
honestly not much happening for darrow, but wow, this minotaur seems like an absolute psycho haha. i wonder if their plan will work, or if pierce will break our hearts again with another failed plan?
I am so nervous about this plan of theres! It could go the wrong way so quickly and easily, but I guess that might be Pierce's idea!
i don't think this will go well for cassius... he might not even survive this one. it's not as if pierce isn't afraid to kill off characters :((. i have mixed feelings on cassius, but i don't want him to die!
Argh me too! I don't want him to die! Mainly cause I want to see him and Darrow reunited and for Lysander's sake too! Cassius is the only reason why Lysander has not ran away and tried to take back his home
yeah i don't like lysander much... i honestly wish he'd just die and i wouldn't have to worry about the trouble he could (and probably will) cause darrow😂. i'm selfish, and i don't care hehe.
Hahah I don't completely agree with you here, but I see your point. He definitely can hurt Darrow and make his life miserable in so many ways, so I guess I understand why you would want him away from Darrow!
I see him like a Cassius, how Pierce will make us absolutely hate his guts and despise him and then have him come back to us where we sort of tolerate him like Cassius! But we will see, who knows what Lysander and Darrow will do in the last part!
hopefully you can catch up soon, karen sis! and i've loved discussing with you
Same here Girl! I have missed discussing all these theories and discussions with you! I have now caught up yay! So I will keep up with the last three threads, don't you worry! Tbh I needed that break so I am glad I took it cause I feel so refreshed and ready to tackle this series, with a broken heart and all!
i'm a genius, i knew darrow's niece would stow away! absolute genius.
- i'm a genius 2.0, i knew the big heist was for a person not a physical thing (though i didn't quite know who)
- i'm too much of a genius for my own good, i suspected that ephraim was using lyria for something to do with the heist :((
in conclusion, i wasn't too shocked by anything that happened in this set, it's just like when we guessed what happened in Cinderella is Dead, Karen! but on a much smaller scale haha.
We are geniuses! I also guessed she would stow away and I kinda half guessed about the children. Your thought on the heist being a person gave me the thought of Pax and the kids so yay for us!
And yes I also realised Ephraim was only using Lyria for the heist!
But yes I was not too shocked either, but that last part with Kavax! I really hope he is not dead!
Hahah so true! It was definitely a smaller scale than Cinderella is dead Darcey but a small victory is worth celebrating! Yaayy!
omg, darrow, sevro, mustang and victra are going to absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT in their determination to get their kids back haha. this is going to get ugly. i hope the kids are alright...
OMG I know! But how will they know! They are basically off the grid! They might not find out for ages unless the Duke of Hands somehow communicates with them. Plus lets not forget there is a traitor Howler on board too, who could it be ...
i don't even love the kids that much yet, but my babies (darrow, sevro, mustang, victra) love them, so i have to like them😂
Girl speak for yourself, even since Pax was insulted by Lyria, my mama bear mood has emerged and I now love him and will protect him with me life!
i'm so freaking disappointed in ephraim... i thought better of him... i know he was kinda forced into this, but kids, ephraim? really? i love that volga voiced her disapproval (in a way), i just wish she'd do more.
I know, and I guess that's why he is perfect for the job, he is a good liar and manipulator but unlike other times, this time Lyria reminds him of Trigg, so perhaps he might have a changed of heart later on? But we shall see
And yes, I see that Volga had expressed her disapproval for a while now, probably since the start but yeah I really wished she has voiced her concerns sooner. Perhaps she can help rescue the children later on?
lyria, that was embarrassing. you got played so easily that even i saw it coming (i don't think pierce was being subtle haha, it was pretty clear ephraim had an ulterior motive). but yeah that was just really sad to watch on your behalf, lyria. (i don't know why i'm talking in second person right now haha). anyway, poor lyria!
Ah I know right, it was clear from a mile away but yeah I guess she was so desperate for a friend to understand her she didn't see the red flags in time
and to think ephraim would've killed her if the safety was off... he didn't even really help her, mustang and victra will hunt her down for the accidental part she played in pax and electra's capture.
I know! They will track her down, Victra will pregnant and all! Poor thing, he basically ruined her new start to a better life! I really wished he had shot her
honestly not much happening for darrow, but wow, this minotaur seems like an absolute psycho haha. i wonder if their plan will work, or if pierce will break our hearts again with another failed plan?
I am so nervous about this plan of theres! It could go the wrong way so quickly and easily, but I guess that might be Pierce's idea!
i don't think this will go well for cassius... he might not even survive this one. it's not as if pierce isn't afraid to kill off characters :((. i have mixed feelings on cassius, but i don't want him to die!
Argh me too! I don't want him to die! Mainly cause I want to see him and Darrow reunited and for Lysander's sake too! Cassius is the only reason why Lysander has not ran away and tried to take back his home
yeah i don't like lysander much... i honestly wish he'd just die and i wouldn't have to worry about the trouble he could (and probably will) cause darrow😂. i'm selfish, and i don't care hehe.
Hahah I don't completely agree with you here, but I see your point. He definitely can hurt Darrow and make his life miserable in so many ways, so I guess I understand why you would want him away from Darrow!
I see him like a Cassius, how Pierce will make us absolutely hate his guts and despise him and then have him come back to us where we sort of tolerate him like Cassius! But we will see, who knows what Lysander and Darrow will do in the last part!
hopefully you can catch up soon, karen sis! and i've loved discussing with you
Same here Girl! I have missed discussing all these theories and discussions with you! I have now caught up yay! So I will keep up with the last three threads, don't you worry! Tbh I needed that break so I am glad I took it cause I feel so refreshed and ready to tackle this series, with a broken heart and all!

~haahahah this much genuineness is Sus darce maybe you had hands on writing this book? JK but yeah the heist was totally a suspicious part and when i found out they want children and Since we have already some important children involved i knew it means pax and Electra
i don't even love the kids that much yet, but my babies (darrow, sevro, mustang, victra) love them, so i have to like them😂
- i'm so freaking disappointed in ephraim... i thought better of him... i know he was kinda forced into this, but kids, ephraim? really? i love that volga voiced her disapproval (in a way), i just wish she'd do more.
~same here , i'm not really good with children eaither and i don't particular;y care but since they are children of my faves , i'm also scared because their parents are worried and have to go on more mission and problems
~and again , honestly , i knew there was something dubious going on with ephraim so i didn't took him as a goody character, everyone here are complex and grey and they do everything that is best for themselves even if it means using each other. but i hope he doesn't get worse(I'm not sure)
mustang and victra will hunt her down for the accidental part she played in pax and electra's capture.
~oooh girl i'm seating on my ass with popcorn on my hand waiting for that to happen , woman power and all. let it began 😏
haha yep super creepy... who does it remind you of?
but yeah, i'm soooo disappointed in ephraim for this, and i stand with volga's dislike of him. i wish volga would save the kids and leave on her own... but it's unlikely, she's way too loyal to ephraim. but yes, so disappointed in ephraim.
~oooh i just realized i used a wrong term of phrase ooops , i meant that those high professional children are pax and Electra. and nope volga is definitely on his side so it was unlikely of her to do something irrational. i say let's just see how things plays out
p.s: btw darce , i don't know if you saw my answer on your question about The Queen Will Betray You because that page is gone. let me know if you got your answer!

Okay now that I found out Phillipe is Ephraim, (I don’t know how you guys caught onto that! Such geniuses!),
~yes that was ephraim , not sure but in his pov , he does mention meeting lyria so that's why!
HOW DARE SHE INSULT PAX LIKE THAT!! I can’t believe she actually said that to him! He is a red and a Gold it’s not his fault he has been left in the dark because of it and just wanted to learn from someone who has lived there!
~tsk tsk , yeah i know , no one knows he is such soft and lonely boy and they don't take him seriously , i want justice for him.
I don’t know if I want Cassius to die, I was kinda hoping he will see Darrow somehow, see where that leads, because I fear if Cassius dies, Lysander will challenge Darrow for the throne indeed
~honestly , i think less death is better all , so let's have cassius and lysander as well and give them chance. they're not that bad as we put them though 😅
And poor Lyria! I kinda wish she was shot instead, now she must live on the run! She will never see Liam again! Ephraim has robbed her life! Argh I hate this!
~ i feel like she could have escape that situation and not get herself involved! ahhh why would some characters do this dangerous things?
~and now that you caught up and i see have gone farther than us , the last 200 pages are gonna be intense and hopefully not a cliffhanger please??
Karen
HOW DARE SHE INSULT PAX LIKE THAT!! I can’t believe she actually said that to him! He is a red and a Gold it’s not his fault he has been left in the dark because of it and just wanted to learn from someone who has lived there!
ugh i know! i understand her, but it's kinda bitchy!!
I don’t know if I want Cassius to die, I was kinda hoping he will see Darrow somehow, see where that leads, because I fear if Cassius dies, Lysander will challenge Darrow for the throne indeed
yeah definitely a concern... and i don't hate cassius anymore. ahh i'm worried!!
And poor Lyria! I kinda wish she was shot instead, now she must live on the run! She will never see Liam again! Ephraim has robbed her life! Argh I hate this!
ahh yeah exactly!! and the telemanuses will hate her now... poor lyria :((
Plus lets not forget there is a traitor Howler on board too, who could it be ...
oh god i forgot about that... i hope it's not clown or pebble, they're from the original gang and they're so cute.
Girl speak for yourself, even since Pax was insulted by Lyria, my mama bear mood has emerged and I now love him and will protect him with me life!
HAHHAA yes i noticed that! he is such a cutie... i feel i'll come to love him as well ;)
this time Lyria reminds him of Trigg, so perhaps he might have a changed of heart later on? But we shall see.
Perhaps Volga can help rescue the children later on?
ahh i hope so!! i really hope so, on both counts!
Same here Girl! I have missed discussing all these theories and discussions with you! I have now caught up yay! So I will keep up with the last three threads, don't you worry! Tbh I needed that break so I am glad I took it cause I feel so refreshed and ready to tackle this series, with a broken heart and all!
yay! i'm glad you took a break as well if it helped, can't wait to continue this series with you!
HOW DARE SHE INSULT PAX LIKE THAT!! I can’t believe she actually said that to him! He is a red and a Gold it’s not his fault he has been left in the dark because of it and just wanted to learn from someone who has lived there!
ugh i know! i understand her, but it's kinda bitchy!!
I don’t know if I want Cassius to die, I was kinda hoping he will see Darrow somehow, see where that leads, because I fear if Cassius dies, Lysander will challenge Darrow for the throne indeed
yeah definitely a concern... and i don't hate cassius anymore. ahh i'm worried!!
And poor Lyria! I kinda wish she was shot instead, now she must live on the run! She will never see Liam again! Ephraim has robbed her life! Argh I hate this!
ahh yeah exactly!! and the telemanuses will hate her now... poor lyria :((
Plus lets not forget there is a traitor Howler on board too, who could it be ...
oh god i forgot about that... i hope it's not clown or pebble, they're from the original gang and they're so cute.
Girl speak for yourself, even since Pax was insulted by Lyria, my mama bear mood has emerged and I now love him and will protect him with me life!
HAHHAA yes i noticed that! he is such a cutie... i feel i'll come to love him as well ;)
this time Lyria reminds him of Trigg, so perhaps he might have a changed of heart later on? But we shall see.
Perhaps Volga can help rescue the children later on?
ahh i hope so!! i really hope so, on both counts!
Same here Girl! I have missed discussing all these theories and discussions with you! I have now caught up yay! So I will keep up with the last three threads, don't you worry! Tbh I needed that break so I am glad I took it cause I feel so refreshed and ready to tackle this series, with a broken heart and all!
yay! i'm glad you took a break as well if it helped, can't wait to continue this series with you!
Yegi
haahahah this much genuineness is Sus darce maybe you had hands on writing this book?
hahahahaha i've been exposed ;)) i can't believe you worked it out! yep, i'm pierce brown's minion hehe.
everyone here are complex and grey and they do everything that is best for themselves even if it means using each other. but i hope he doesn't get worse(I'm not sure)
yeah i hope the same for ephraim... i feel like he'll get a redemption arc, but who knows haha. i mean, it's pierce brown! he's crazy haha.
oooh girl i'm seating on my ass with popcorn on my hand waiting for that to happen , woman power and all. let it began 😏
true true true... i don't want lyria to be punished, but i'm excited to see the mum's kick ass as they try to find their children😏😏
p.s: btw darce , i don't know if you saw my answer on your question about The Queen Will Betray You because that page is gone. let me know if you got your answer!
p.s. nope, i sadly didn't see your answer... can you quickly re-answer here? i'm just curious to know your thoughts on the series and if i should read it! thanks girl and sorry for the trouble!
haahahah this much genuineness is Sus darce maybe you had hands on writing this book?
hahahahaha i've been exposed ;)) i can't believe you worked it out! yep, i'm pierce brown's minion hehe.
everyone here are complex and grey and they do everything that is best for themselves even if it means using each other. but i hope he doesn't get worse(I'm not sure)
yeah i hope the same for ephraim... i feel like he'll get a redemption arc, but who knows haha. i mean, it's pierce brown! he's crazy haha.
oooh girl i'm seating on my ass with popcorn on my hand waiting for that to happen , woman power and all. let it began 😏
true true true... i don't want lyria to be punished, but i'm excited to see the mum's kick ass as they try to find their children😏😏
p.s: btw darce , i don't know if you saw my answer on your question about The Queen Will Betray You because that page is gone. let me know if you got your answer!
p.s. nope, i sadly didn't see your answer... can you quickly re-answer here? i'm just curious to know your thoughts on the series and if i should read it! thanks girl and sorry for the trouble!

haahahah this much genuineness is Sus darce maybe you had hands on writing this book?
hahahahaha i've been exposed ;)) i can't believe you worked it out! yep, i'm pierce brown's minion heh..."
nope not at all problem darce , I'd like to. and apologies to Karen if this doesn't relate to topic .so to be brief , this book is an average ya and can get a little fantasy but not that much of notice. i don't know anything about princess bride and this book seems like to be retelling of that. i liked the first book more than the sequel , and it did end on a good note but going into the 2nd book , i honestly didn't know what to expect from , but it did go on a different day.
i wasn't fan of The Characters because they did not have much depth to them even though I did not dislike them. I wish that the main heroine Ama and her love Luca were fleshed out more. and i feel like it gets forgettable over the time specially that still the last book has to be released , and i don't think it is worth the wait ,so i say let the series be completed and binge it if you like.
so to make it short, I'm not really a fan of this , i read the first book back when it came out and i saw a free copy of the sequel so that's why i read it , but i didn't remember much from the first book so it kinds dragged for me 😅this book kinda gives me the vibe of ash princess trilogy if you have read it , but i liked that one better.
@Yegi
haha yep that makes complete sense, thank you so much for the mini review!! i probably won't bother reading the series if you didn't enjoy it, so thank you for cutting down my tbr list a little ;). thanks again sis!
haha yep that makes complete sense, thank you so much for the mini review!! i probably won't bother reading the series if you didn't enjoy it, so thank you for cutting down my tbr list a little ;). thanks again sis!
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